Blue Jays Discussion: 2024 Season - Complete without a great title in keeping with the performance

[Discoverer]

How did they score so many runs during the regular season? Their lineup other than Judge and Soto seems underwhelming.

Their lineup outside of Judge and Soto is underwhelming. They have arguably the two best hitters in the league, and nothing else impressive. It strikes me as a high-risk/high-reward way of constructing a lineup because all it takes is a short slump for one or both of their stars and they have little else to keep them afloat.

They had two guys in the lineup last night who were at least as bad as Biggio this year.

Having said that... the Royals lineup isn't exactly scary. I see they're going full Alcides Escobar with Mikael Garcia in the leadoff spot still.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

Luis Tiant, charismatic Cuban who pitched Red Sox to brink of title, dies at 83

Luis Tiant, charismatic Cuban who pitched Red Sox to brink of title, dies at 83

BOSTON (AP) — Luis Tiant, the charismatic Cuban with a horseshoe mustache and mesmerizing windup who pitched the Red Sox to the brink of a World Series championship and himself to the doorstep of the Hall of Fame, has died. He was 83. Major League Baseball announced his death in a post on X on...

thescore.com

Theirs a pitcher to remember. His big turn around windup.
RIP EL TIANTE.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Their lineup outside of Judge and Soto is underwhelming. They have arguably the two best hitters in the league, and nothing else impressive. It strikes me as a high-risk/high-reward way of constructing a lineup because all it takes is a short slump for one or both of their stars and they have little else to keep them afloat.

They had two guys in the lineup last night who were at least as bad as Biggio this year.

Having said that... the Royals lineup isn't exactly scary. I see their going full Alcides Escobar with Mikael Garcia in the leadoff spot still.

Looking at the Roylas lineup it got me thinking, who would you take for next year: Pasquantino or Horwitz? They are the same age, hit left, DH/1B, Vinnie being slightly more experienced at the MLB level. Thought maybe we could compare 2 similar players.

 

[Bjindaho]

How did they score so many runs during the regular season? Their lineup other than Judge and Soto seems underwhelming.

Raw output vs sequencing.

It's the same downfall of the last few Jays teams. If your lineup is built around 1-2 big guys, opponents can dramatically improve their outcomes by simply not pitching to the select couple.

 

[MK78]

Teoscar just hit a granny in the playoffs.... Low Hangin' Fruit and all...

 

[Cloned]

Teoscar just hit a granny in the playoffs.... Low Hangin' Fruit and all...

Atkins GM’ing looks worse with each passing day.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

Teoscar just hit a granny in the playoffs.... Low Hangin' Fruit and all...

That low hanging fruit Teoscar would have been first on the Blue Jays in HRs. Even last year in what was a down year for him he hit 25 HRs, only one less than Vladdy. He’s also the last Blue Jay to hit a home run in the playoffs. But hey Ross, who needs those in the playoffs. What a turd of a general manager we’ve been saddled with.

 

[GoonieFace]

That low hanging fruit Teoscar would have been first on the Blue Jays in HRs. Even last year in what was a down year for him he hit 25 HRs, only one less than Vladdy. He’s also the last Blue Jay to hit a home run in the playoffs. But hey Ross, who needs those in the playoffs. What a turd of a general manager we’ve been saddled with.

There were also 30 other teams that refused to sign him as well. I’m suprised he couldn’t find a multi year deal anywhere.

 

[Suntouchable13]

What the hell? Is SN serious? They are not televising game 3 between Cleveland and Detroit. Pathetic.

 

[stickty111]

Atkins GM’ing looks worse with each passing day.

It's fine. I'm sure there is an advanced stat that says the grand slam was bad for the Dodgers, and Atkins was right to trade him.

 

[Discoverer]

It's fine. I'm sure there is an advanced stat that says the grand slam was bad for the Dodgers, and Atkins was right to trade him.

Quick reminder that there may not be a team in the league that relies as heavily on analytics as the Dodgers.

 

[tmlfan98]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844108476781670470

 

[MK78]

What the hell? Is SN serious? They are not televising game 3 between Cleveland and Detroit. Pathetic.

It's on SN360... Not everyone has that in their package.

Tweet - Adding a catcher reportedly isn’t a top priority for the Blue Jays, team is comfortable with Alejandro Kirk and Tyler Heineman

What the hell is the priority for this team?

 

[GoonieFace]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844108476781670470

And it shouldn’t be. Catching is the least of their worries

 

[stickty111]

Quick reminder that there may not be a team in the league that relies as heavily on analytics as the Dodgers.

It wasn't really a shot at analytics. I'm pro analytics as it gets, but more a general post about fans using stats to defend a questionable move. Not you just generally. This also goes the other way too. Fans using stats to criricize a good move.

 

[Discoverer]

It wasn't really a shot at analytics. I'm pro analytics as it gets, but more a general post about fans using stats to defend a questionable move. Not you just generally. This also goes the other way too. Fans using stats to criricize a good move.

Sure. I also don't think any of the Teoscar moves (the original trade or not signing him) are that hard to defend. In hindsight, they definitely should have signed him, obviously.

 

[stickty111]

Sure. I also don't think any of the Teoscar moves (the original trade or not signing him) are that hard to defend. In hindsight, they definitely should have signed him, obviously.

Fair point. I guess the problem wasn't that they traded him, it was more about not replacing him properly. I said it before but they should have kept one of Gurriel or Teoscar. Knowing how things have worked out probably Teoscar.