Between Pearson and Jansen being traded I thought there would be more backlash for Jansen. Stunned the backlash is for Pearson.
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FYI Cutter Coffee has an abysmal .862 fielding % at 3B in high A ball this season.
This guy will never see the majors.
Atkins at his best again!
This guy will never see the majors.
Atkins at his best again!
Pearson has good stuff but it isn't special. He doesn't regularly touch 100 and often sits around 96-97. His fastball is flat and his control stinks. Pearson struggles with runners on as well.
He needed to develop additional pitches. That’s on the coaching staff. Not just at the majors but in the minors as well.
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Starry Knight
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Yes, better replace Pete Walker who has been extremely effective for the sake of Nate Pearson who has never been healthy enough to throw over 100 innings.
HuGort
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You make it sound so easy. They totally never tinkered with Pearson's slider/curveball/changeup over his tenure with the Jays.
Nope. Never.
I’m pretty sure they tried.
Pearson just doesn’t seem like the sharpest tool in the shed. Throws hard but straight and that’s it, poor mentality, poor control, no mound presence.
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That’s possible. Odd timing though, given that earlier in the week there was reported internal talk about him being considered for the rotation next year.
Shame how his career panned out here, best wishes to him and his future, which will no doubt include a couple years as a wipeout high leverage reliever.
This just shows you have no idea what you're talking about. The additional pitches weren't the problem with Pearson, it was his fastball was flat. His slider graded out well and his third pitch, curveball was okay.
Early on in his career, they tried a changeup and that didn't work. This offseason they tried a spiltter with him and I assume that didn't work either.
EDIT: If his fastball wasn't flat and or he could routinely hit 100mph+ and not sit around 96-97 his secondaries would be fine.
Obviously it wasn’t enough. Maybe the cubs see something they can do with him.
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Apparently, we're getting three players back for Jansen. I'm sure Coffey is likely the best piece but not too bad I guess. Jansen going ice cold pre deadline like the others hurt his value. This season really couldn't have been worse. All our big trade assets that have expiring deals all just couldn't do anything the last month. Although, Turner has come on a little of late.
Starry Knight
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It should not be surprising that the Jays are not receiving flawless prospects for their extremely flawed assets. Pearson is barely major league calibre, Garcia has been injured, and Jansen is a bandaid who's struggled at the plate extensively since his hot start.
I want Atkins gone for the inability to produce effective major leaguers with draft picks and a poor vision of how to build around Vladdy and Bo (and hiring/keeping Mattingly), but to act like these trades are huge misses on value is obtuse.
I want Atkins gone for the inability to produce effective major leaguers with draft picks and a poor vision of how to build around Vladdy and Bo (and hiring/keeping Mattingly), but to act like these trades are huge misses on value is obtuse.
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Try and bring a talking point to your conversation. Changing the words to your constant rant is tiring. Getting mad at a return for Pearson is comical at best. I wanted this management group gone last off season but this deadline isn't gonna be bringing us a lot of star power prospects back. It's going to be depth pieces you hope find another gear. So be prepared for that mentally and the next few days will be much more palatable for you.
Starry Knight
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Touching 100 is meaningless if it has zero movement. It just becomes an ideal pitch to crush for homeruns.
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He's not a prospect anymore, how many baseball players throw 100 and can't get outs? A lot
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