Red Sox/MLB 2024 Playoffs: Dodgers win the World Series

CDJ

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Right?

I said it a few pages back. Maybe, just maybe he gets into Henry's moneyball head and checks all the boxes.
Soto being only 26 next year is probably a factor in them being willing to splurge on him. You’d essentially be purchasing the entire prime of a generational talent. You almost never have the opportunity to do that in free agency. He’s a once in a lifetime free agent.

It’s not like buying into him when he’s 30 or even 28. Getting him at 26 makes a big difference on a 12+ year deal
 

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Soto being only 26 next year is probably a factor in them being willing to splurge on him. You’d essentially be purchasing the entire prime of a generational talent. You almost never have the opportunity to do that in free agency. He’s a once in a lifetime free agent.

It’s not like buying into him when he’s 30 or even 28. Getting him at 26 makes a big difference on a 12+ year deal
Agreed, plus a best ever OBP which will help as he ages.
 
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What if I told you the Red Sox could have one of these two options... which would you choose and why?

A. Juan Soto at 14-years, $630 million for an AAV of $45 million/year.

B. One of the premier starters on the market (Burns, Fried, Snell) AND one of the premier closers on the market (Helsley, Williams, Scott) for a combined AAV of $45 million/year.

Also, there's this...

 
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What if I told you the Red Sox could have one of these two options... which would you choose and why?

A. Juan Soto at 14-years, $630 million for an AAV of $45 million/year.

B. One of the premier starters on the market (Burns, Fried, Snell) AND one of the premier closers on the market (Helsley, Williams, Scott) for a combined AAV of $45 million/year.

Also, there's this...


Def Juan because generational talent
 

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Def Juan because generational talent
Counterpoint: The Red Sox outfield was pretty good last year. Their rotation was OK. The bullpen was bad. The Sox will see a greater immediate impact if they spend their money fixing holes in their roster than they will trying to improve on a strength.
 
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Counterpoint: The Red Sox outfield was pretty good last year. Their rotation was OK. The bullpen was bad. The Sox will see a greater immediate impact if they spend their money fixing holes in their roster than they will trying to improve on a strength.
Can’t really go wrong with either option imo i just would prefer the megastar and would deal from the outfield depth to get pitching
 
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Soto all day everyday. He makes the lineup way better by slotting everyone correctly. You can also use that signing to deal away someone like Abreyu for a starter and, you've actually improved.

I think the play is sign Soto, deal Abreyu ++ for Crochet, sign a mid tier starter, and fill out bullpen.

Ideally deal Yoshida as well, but you're taking a bad contract or eating money there, so who knows
 

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Counterpoint: The Red Sox outfield was pretty good last year. Their rotation was OK. The bullpen was bad. The Sox will see a greater immediate impact if they spend their money fixing holes in their roster than they will trying to improve on a strength.
What if they get Soto, trade for Crochet, and make a run at Sasaki? The latter two won't make a lot and still leaves the ability to sign a closer. Hopefully Fulmer and Liam Hendricks can contribute as well.
 
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What if I told you the Red Sox could have one of these two options... which would you choose and why?

A. Juan Soto at 14-years, $630 million for an AAV of $45 million/year.

B. One of the premier starters on the market (Burns, Fried, Snell) AND one of the premier closers on the market (Helsley, Williams, Scott) for a combined AAV of $45 million/year.

Also, there's this...


Soto

Now you can trade Abreau for Crochet and Antony or Campbell or Durran for another young pitcher.

If I could bet, I would say none of the Big 4 will be as good as Soto.
 
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Soto all day everyday. He makes the lineup way better by slotting everyone correctly. You can also use that signing to deal away someone like Abreyu for a starter and, you've actually improved.

I think the play is sign Soto, deal Abreyu ++ for Crochet, sign a mid tier starter, and fill out bullpen.

Ideally deal Yoshida as well, but you're taking a bad contract or eating money there, so who knows

But, if you have Soto -- you can package Yoshida with Anthony for a better return, because Soto, Rafaella, Duran could be your outfield for the next 7-8 years.
 

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But, if you have Soto -- you can package Yoshida with Anthony for a better return, because Soto, Rafaella, Duran could be your outfield for the next 7-8 years.
I am not attaching Anthony with essentially a salary dump. He's basically untouchable despite having a log jam in the OF.

I am in no way shape or form trading him for pitching either
 

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I am not attaching Anthony with essentially a salary dump. He's basically untouchable despite having a log jam in the OF.

I am in no way shape or form trading him for pitching either
Really?

I'm not suggesting a salary dump --- but why not pitching?

What if CWS wanted him for Crochet ---- and Soto was already signed?
 

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If the Sox signed Soto --- ostensibly the OF could/would be:

Soto - Rafaella - Duran for 7-8 years

Move Anthony in a package for pitching.

Or keep Anthony and move Rafaella or Duran ---

Either way --- if they were to sign Soto they have flexibility to move an OF or OF prospect.

And -- this is all suggested with the thought that Abreu is being moved.

If that doesn't happen ---

How do you play --

Duran, Soto, Abreau, Rafaella, Anthony

Something has to give --- even if Rafaella moves to the IF.
 

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This Soto stuff is hilarious

Steve Cohan wants him it’s done

If the Sox signed Soto --- ostensibly the OF could/would be:

Soto - Rafaella - Duran for 7-8 years

Move Anthony in a package for pitching.

Or keep Anthony and move Rafaella or Duran ---

Either way --- if they were to sign Soto they have flexibility to move an OF or OF prospect.

And -- this is all suggested with the thought that Abreu is being moved.

If that doesn't happen ---

How do you play --

Duran, Soto, Abreau, Rafaella, Anthony

Something has to give --- even if Rafaella moves to the IF.
You falling for Soto

There is 0.0 chance the Red Sox sign him
 

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