Speculation: 2024 Off-season Team Discussion

  • PLEASE check any bookmark on all devices. IF you see a link pointing to mandatory.com DELETE it Please use this URL https://forums.hfboards.com/

rt

Clean Hits on Substack
I went with Maccelli, McBain and Bjugstad for a few reasons:

1. McBain could use the help on FOs and Bjuggy is good at taking draws.

2. Bjugstad has spent around half his nhl career as a winger and is comfortable going back and forth.

3. Two seasons ago Maccelli and Crouse had amazing chemistry with Bjugstad who was later traded. After the trade, McBain stepped into that role and that trio had great chemistry. So, would be curious if these three could rekindle some of that.


I went with Carcone over Doan for a few reasons:

1. Carcone won’t clear waivers
2. Doan is waivers exempt
3. Sokolov will likely clear

So this gives us the maximum depth in case of injury as it keeps all three depth wingers with the club and leaves us with multiple quality call-up options.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Canis Latrans

Schemp

Registered User
Nov 12, 2018
4,286
2,737
Still stuck in Forum 40
I went with Maccelli, McBain and Bjugstad for a few reasons:

1. McBain could use the help on FOs and Bjuggy is good at taking draws.

2. Bjugstad has spent around half his nhl career as a winger and is comfortable going back and forth.

3. Two seasons ago Maccelli and Crouse had amazing chemistry with Bjugstad who was later traded. After the trade, McBain stepped into that role and that trio had great chemistry. So, would be curious if these three could rekindle some of that.


I went with Carcone over Doan for a few reasons:

1. Carcone won’t clear waivers
2. Doan is waivers exempt
3. Sokolov will likely clear

So this gives us the maximum depth in case of injury as it keeps all three depth wingers with the club and leaves us with multiple quality call-up options.
Who is #23, Kolyachonok? Give Tij his 9 games (we'll see how it goes after camp, if he deserves it). When Doan eventually gets called up he will stick.
Agree that big Nick will be MM's RW, but still predicting that Stenlund will "rise to the occasion", makes a big target for MM to bounce targets off of!
 

rt

Clean Hits on Substack

SpaceCoyote

Registered User
Jul 10, 2013
600
373
Wasting away
Could have had Caufield or Boldy or York or Harley. Plus the 2nd
Boldy went 12th and we would have drafted 14th.

Most redrafts have Maccelli around 11, at least Chayka ultimately covered for his own mistake. No one would be complaining if Soderstorm turned out to be the 11th best player in the draft in 5 years time and Maccelli fizzled out, but the outcome was the same.
 

AZviaNJ

“Sure as shit want to F*** Coyote fans.”
Mar 31, 2011
6,740
4,453
AZ
Imagine using an 11th overall pick on a poor man’s version of David Schlemko and then peacocking around, crowing to the meadia about how he was 3rd overall on your list
Rundblad returning to Arizona in the form of Soderstrom was one of the many reasons Boy Wonder failed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mosby and Heldig

Arizonatah Coyetis

Formerly Kai Yo T
Nov 27, 2006
3,684
4,432
Scottsdale, AZ
Most redrafts have Maccelli around 11, at least Chayka ultimately covered for his own mistake. No one would be complaining if Soderstorm turned out to be the 11th best player in the draft in 5 years time and Maccelli fizzled out, but the outcome was the same.

It's true, but hitting big with Maccelli in the later rounds sure would have been great as an 'in addition to' rather than an 'instead of' though. It's still a missed opportunity.
 

Arizonatah Coyetis

Formerly Kai Yo T
Nov 27, 2006
3,684
4,432
Scottsdale, AZ
Yes, but let's put more perspective around Chayka's drafts

2018 - 5th overall Hayton
2019 - 11th overall Soderstrom

pretty underwhelming 2-yr stretch there...doesn't matter if he hit a gem in Maccelli...he didn't hit any gems in 2018

As you already know, it's his fault the team had to forfeit a 2020 2nd rounder and a 2021 1st rounder for having his own little private scouting combine. He set this team back quite a bit in IMO. Maybe a bit of a mixed bag, but I think the negative outweighs the positive. He broke a rule that, even if you aren't familiar with said rule, is still so common sense that it's stupid to not realize it was not allowed. There's no redeeming for something like that.

Imagine grabbing Guenther plus making another high first round pick in 2021. I believe the pick forfeited ended up being 11th OA. Could've been picking 9th and 11th. Another missed opportunity. He torched a lot of draft capital during his tenure.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Mosby and Schemp

Heldig

Registered User
Apr 12, 2002
17,473
11,131
BC
Yes, but let's put more perspective around Chayka's drafts

2018 - 5th overall Hayton
2019 - 11th overall Soderstrom

pretty underwhelming 2-yr stretch there...doesn't matter if he hit a gem in Maccelli...he didn't hit any gems in 2018
Could of / should have been

2018 - 5th overall Quinn Hughes (though I wanted Dobson)
2019 - 11th overall Cole Caufield

:baghead:
 
  • Like
Reactions: Arizonatah Coyetis

Schemp

Registered User
Nov 12, 2018
4,286
2,737
Still stuck in Forum 40
As you already know, it's his fault the team had to forfeit a 2020 2nd rounder and a 2021 1st rounder for having his own little private scouting combine. He set this team back quite a bit in IMO. Maybe a bit of a mixed bag, but I think the negative outweighs the positive. He broke a rule that, even if you aren't familiar with said rule, is still so common sense that it's stupid to not realize it was not allowed. There's no redeeming for something like that.

Imagine grabbing Guenther plus making another high first round pick in 2021. I believe the pick forfeited ended up being 11th OA. Could've been picking 9th and 11th. Another missed opportunity. He torched a lot of draft capital during his tenure.
And Bahl,a 1st in '20 (18th OA, NJ picked Mercer, Schneider was picked @ 19) a 3rd in '21 for T Hall
Amazing what GMBA accomplished through the draft with these set backs!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Arizonatah Coyetis

Remparts666

Registered User
Feb 11, 2021
212
183
Keller-Hayton-Schmaltz
Crouse-Cooley-Guenther
Maccelli-McBain-Bjugstad
Kerfoot-Stenlund-Carcone
O’Brien

Sergachev-Marino
Valimaki-Durzi
Cole-Kesselring
Bortuzzo

Ingram
Vejmelka

poor maccelli. One of the best passer in the world. Doesnt he need a true goal scorer like Guenther or Crouse?
 

Vinny Boombatz

formerly ctwin22
Mar 21, 2008
11,080
6,768
Chandler, AZ
poor maccelli. One of the best passer in the world. Doesnt he need a true goal scorer like Guenther or Crouse?

Maccelli will get plenty of time w/Goal scorers on the PP, I'm guessing he's going to have Doan as his winger, who is a goal-scorer, so our top 3 lines are looking like the best we've had in as long as I can remember

Keller/Hayton/Schmaltz
Crouse/Cooley/Guenther
Maccelli/Bjugstad/Doan
Kerfoot/Stenlund/McBain
O'Brien/Carcone
 

Remparts666

Registered User
Feb 11, 2021
212
183
Maccelli will get plenty of time w/Goal scorers on the PP, I'm guessing he's going to have Doan as his winger, who is a goal-scorer, so our top 3 lines are looking like the best we've had in as long as I can remember

Keller/Hayton/Schmaltz
Crouse/Cooley/Guenther
Maccelli/Bjugstad/Doan
Kerfoot/Stenlund/McBain
O'Brien/Carcone

Hopefully you are right, but over the last 2 years he mostly got PP2 with 40 second average. He would have had 70-75 pts if used on pp1

Hopefully you are right, but over the last 2 years he mostly got PP2 with 40 second average. He would have had 70-75 pts if used on pp1
IMO he deserved PP1 over unproven and 18 yrs old Cooley last years. He is just so effective with space
 

Heldig

Registered User
Apr 12, 2002
17,473
11,131
BC
Maccelli will get plenty of time w/Goal scorers on the PP, I'm guessing he's going to have Doan as his winger, who is a goal-scorer, so our top 3 lines are looking like the best we've had in as long as I can remember

Keller/Hayton/Schmaltz
Crouse/Cooley/Guenther
Maccelli/Bjugstad/Doan
Kerfoot/Stenlund/McBain
O'Brien/Carcone
C is still a weakness but the wing depth is fantastic.

Not sure about a twitter link


New Pres. Hockey Ops says it is clear what name the fans want and they are working on all aspects of copyright etc. Says it is complicated.

Reading between the lines - Yeti it is. Got to deal with the cooler company and possibly the Avalanche (over use of a yeti in the logo)
 

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad