Speculation: 2024 Off-season Team Discussion

[FlyguyOX]

Hayton breakout this year will make his next contract look like a steal. Bookmark this

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

We've been saying that Hayton is going to break out any time now for two seasons already. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Grimes]

We've been saying that Hayton is going to break out any time now for two seasons already. I'll believe it when I see it.

He was very close to doing so two seasons ago. The 2nd half of the 2022-2023 season was very encouraging. Then...last year happened.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

He was very close to doing so two seasons ago. The 2nd half of the 2022-2023 season was very encouraging. Then...last year happened.

Which is why I'd rather be surprised instead of expectant this time. I can't think of another player that works his ass off like Hayton does and still leaves me begging for more production, which we know he's capable of.

 

[FlyguyOX]

He was very close to doing so two seasons ago. The 2nd half of the 2022-2023 season was very encouraging. Then...last year happened.

As someone who only recently looked into Hayton’s performance last season, his advanced metrics indicate he was extremely unlucky with puck luck. Controlled chances when he was on the ice

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

As someone who only recently looked into Hayton’s performance last season, his advanced metrics indicate he was extremely unlucky with puck luck. Controlled chances when he was on the ice

The term snakebit fits Hayton like a glove. He's got a lot more to offer, I'm just taking a more cautious and skeptical approach with Hayton after how last season turned out for him.

 

[Grimes]

The term snakebit fits Hayton like a glove. He's got a lot more to offer, I'm just taking a more cautious and skeptical approach with Hayton after how last season turned out for him.

Agreed. Luckily he is still pretty young.

 

[Jakey53]

As someone who only recently looked into Hayton’s performance last season, his advanced metrics indicate he was extremely unlucky with puck luck. Controlled chances when he was on the ice

There is more to a hockey player than advanced metrics.

 

[Jakey53]

The term snakebit fits Hayton like a glove. He's got a lot more to offer, I'm just taking a more cautious and skeptical approach with Hayton after how last season turned out for him.

Snakebit? Maybe a lack of talent? I'm not the one making player decisions, but this year it's either shit or get off the pot in my opinion. Same as Kotkaniemi. Two top 5 picks, two disappointing players.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Snakebit? Maybe a lack of talent?

It's possible that the last half of the 22-23 season was a flash in the pan and, injuries aside, that what we saw last season is just who Hayton is as a player. That's why I'm hoping instead of expecting for next season.

this year it's either shit or get off the pot in my opinion.

Like @Grimes mentioned, he is still young. But yeah, clock is ticking.

Two top 5 picks, two disappointing players.

I stopped basing my expectations off where he was drafted a long time ago since we all know he was taken too early.

He's looking more like a Christian Dvorak than a top 10 pick, IMO. But that's still a useful player every team needs. Most seemed upset when we traded Dvorak so, draft position aside, maybe Hayton deserves more love too.

I saw a re-draft for 2018 (published last year) that in hindsight had us taking Kotkaniemi instead.

 

[rt]

That would be the last thing on my mind. I would be more worried if Hayton can contribute more than he has.

Glad you’re not the GM.

 

[finkelsteinberg]

Morgan’s wording was confusing. He didn’t mean trade when he said “deal”. He meant that re-signing the player should be easier now.

I read it to mean because he wasn't one of the people seeking arbitration, there must be a contract that is close to being done.

 

[rt]

I read it to mean because he wasn't one of the people seeking arbitration, there must be a contract that is close to being done.

100%

 

[SR]

Good we can put those to bed now .. you can actually tell in Kellers interviews how happy he is to be here( well in Utah)

Hate to break it to you but he’s not happy. In fact he hates the idea of leaving silver leaf and going to Utah. Regardless on how you choose to read things, Keller isn’t thrilled with this whole move by any stretch. This isn’t my opinion either, this is reality.

 

[kickback256]

Hate to break it to you but he’s not happy. In fact he hates the idea of leaving silver leaf and going to Utah. Regardless on how you choose to read things, Keller isn’t thrilled with this whole move by any stretch. This isn’t my opinion either, this is reality.

You got a source on that? Quotes from Keller?

 

[Magonus1703]

Should Utah buy Askarov now when Nashville is 'forced' to sell him? Would '26 2nd + Vladislav Kolyachonok be a fair trade?

 

[DustyDangler]

Should Utah buy Askarov now when Nashville is 'forced' to sell him? Would '26 2nd + Vladislav Kolyachonok be a fair trade?

If he can be got at a reasonable price, he should be got. However, he went 11th OA in 2020 and his stock hasn't exactly gone down so I doubt a 2nd gets it done. Further, the concept that Nashville might be forced to sell is likely coming from outside Nash as it sounds like they are comfortable with their current situation.

Predators' Barry Trotz unlikely to trade goaltenders Juuse Saros or Yaroslav Askarov at NHL Draft

Nashville Predators' general manager Barry Trotz told the Tennessean he's unlikely to trade goaltenders Juuse Saros or Yaroslav Askarov this weekend.

www.tennessean.com

 

[SR]

You got a source on that? Quotes from Keller?

No public quotes and I’m my own source.

 

[rt]

It does seem like being a young millionaire living in Park City is not that bad. Haha. Maybe he’ll come around.

 

[Jamieh]

He can golf in Utah most of the winter!!!

 

[Jakey53]

It does seem like being a young millionaire living in Park City is not that bad. Haha. Maybe he’ll come around.

That's fine if you want to drive 45mins. one way almost everyday.

 

[Jakey53]

He can golf in Utah most of the winter!!!

Freezing your balls off.

 

[Jamieh]

Freezing your balls off.

I golf a lot bundled up in AZ every winter, it's not exactly Hawaii!!!

 

[Heldig]

Hate to break it to you but he’s not happy. In fact he hates the idea of leaving silver leaf and going to Utah. Regardless on how you choose to read things, Keller isn’t thrilled with this whole move by any stretch. This isn’t my opinion either, this is reality.

He makes enough money, he can keep his place in Arizona.

There is no team there so if he wants to play hockey he is moving.

 

[rt]

There is no team there so if he wants to play hockey he is moving.

That’s a good point. Phoenix isn’t an option for his line of work. There are only a handful of other resort town markets if there what’s important to him. Florida and Tampa lack the cap space. Same for Vegas. Anaheim doesn’t seem like a great fit as they’re full blown rebuilding. So…LA? That’s a be careful what you wish for type of situation, I think.