Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)

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Stolen from draft board.

All draft-eligible players since 2013-14 with a min. of 100 points in the WHL:
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Catton is looking very nice. 5'11 but playing like Jack Hughes lite.
 

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Always tougher to gauge these guys coming out of lower tier leagues but I really like Sawyer's offensive upside once you get passed the obvious top forwards in this draft.

Surprised his parents didn't name him after canadian band 'Rush' song 'Tom Sawyer'.
 

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I need some clarity from people who know prospects better than I do. I was listening to a podcast today, one from the athletic, and they mentioned celebrini as generational, in the same breath as Crosby and mcdavid. I was under the impression while it's clear he's the top pick this year, he's not a generational level player. Or have I been misunderstanding his potential?
 

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I need some clarity from people who know prospects better than I do. I was listening to a podcast today, one from the athletic, and they mentioned celebrini as generational, in the same breath as Crosby and mcdavid. I was under the impression while it's clear he's the top pick this year, he's not a generational level player. Or have I been misunderstanding his potential?
What he is doing is very impressive but he isnt generational he is Carlsson/Fantilli tier
 

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Verbeek highlighting our need for right handed defenders in his recent interview. While talking about wanting to sign Moore he says "we've got a lot of lefties in the organisation and righties are needed".

With a draft that is bursting with right shot defenders we are definitely going to stock up.
 

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Pronman's top 13 is almost exactly what I have in terms of tiers.

Tier 1:
Celebrini

Tier 2:
Silayev
Dickinson
Yakemchuk
Levshunov

Tier 3:
Catton
Demidov
Lindstrom

Tier 4:
Perekh
Buium
Helenius
Jiricek

I put Demidov in Tier 2 and Jiricek out of tier 4. Other then that it looks really good IMO. Which is scary since I normally think his lists are bad...

I want Elick so bad. One of the best skaters in the draft who is 6'3 RHD with a mean streak. He is #22 on Pronman's list. I really hope he is there at our 2nd 1st.
 

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This draft feels like there is a celebrini tier and then like 8 guys in tier 2.

At least last season we had the drama of trying to get last to ensure top 3 pick. This year I have little to care about after the trade deadline.
Same. I'm just hoping the last leg of the season is all about the team making improvements to their game approach. When finishing last meant we could guarantee ourselves one of Leo or Fantilli, it was a different story.

Now, if it's not first overall, in Madden I trust lol.
 
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Future watch has a projected top 10 for 2025.
1 D in the top 10.
1 Center in the top 5

2 years in a row of "weak" centers at the top after 2023 was stacked with centers at the top.
Following up an crazy strong D year with a weak one.

Same. I'm just hoping the last leg of the season is all about the team making improvements to their game approach. When finishing last meant we could guarantee ourselves one of Leo or Fantilli, it was a different story.

Now, if it's not first overall, in Madden I trust lol.
I dont have any desire to lose every game to get to #1, but it would be nice to not go on an unbelievable winning streak and pull them out of the top 5.
 

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I want Elick so bad. One of the best skaters in the draft who is 6'3 RHD with a mean streak. He is #22 on Pronman's list. I really hope he is there at our 2nd 1st.

I was hoping for shutdown 6'3 RD's in Elick or Emery with our high 2nd round pick, but it seems their stocks have been rising from mid-2nd to late first in some mocks. Feels like 2022 draft again with the top tier, shutdown D going early.

Here's a FloHockey link to a short video about Emery, citing shades of K'andre Miller: link.

Seeing the upward trends of Elick and Emery, I started looking for other RHD's.

6'3 RHD Dominik Badinka. He's a two-way guy. Here's a write up on him from Up Side Hockey:
Czech-born RHD Dominik Badinka moved from Finland to Sweden before the season started, and the 6'3",183lb rearguard started his journey in Malmo by dominating the J20 league, with 12 points in 15 games to go with 39 PIM. Since then, he's been up in the top men's league, the SHL, and has only 1 point in 23 games in limited deployment and ice-time. Despite his age, he's reportedly looked quite good against men in the defensive zone. In Finland, in 2022-23, he was 13th in D scoring in the U20 league for Jokerit, 1st for players under-18, with 26 points in 43 games. He followed up his Finnish experience with a trip to the Hlinka Gretzky for Czechia, and scored 2 points in 5 games. Not a lot of defensemen get 0.80 ppg in their draft year in the J20- that mark puts him in the same stratoshere as Sahlin-Wallenius (.85), Radivojevic (.85), and Freij (.81). The only draft-eligible defenseman from that league to eclipse that mark from last year's draft was Sandin-Pelikka (1.16). Badinka is an older player in this draft, with a Nov.27th birthday.

This is a highly intelligent player, able to think ahead due to his acute anticipation in all 3 zones. He knows where to be to block plays, intercept passes, and cut off lanes- he's excellent defending the rush as well. He makes a big physical contribution, dominates along the walls, and is a bulldozer in the crease. He exhibits strong stick positioning, and well-timed poke-checks. Badinka is very mobile for his size, with fantastic 4-way manouverability, and is hard to knock off the puck with his size and balance. He can rapidly turn the play around to offense with his puck-retrieval ability, and can play the puck out of danger while under pressure with accurate breakout passes- or he can opt to carry it up the ice himself with his puckhandling. On his way through transition, he can also embarrass would-be checkers with his fine array of 1-on-1 moves and deception. He will stay high and run the point more often than not, but he will jump in to act as an extra forward off the rush, or pinch down low if the opportunity presents itself. He has an above-average point shot, and soft hands around the net, and can QB a powerplay. He's like a heat-seeking missile, always looking to assert himself physically, but they say he needs to pick his spots a lot better as he can sometimes blow plays looking to engage opponents. The same can said for his decision-making from time-to-time- he doesn't always see the best option, and should keep things simple. This kid is a very underrated player who is flying under the radar, but I'm betting he's taken in the first part of the second round.

6'2 RHD Sebastian Soini. He's a shutdown guy. Again from the same Up Side Hockey shared above link:
There were many fans of Finland Hockey that were upset to see 6'2",180lb RHD Sebastian Soini left off the Hlinka roster, after all- he's been considered one of the top defensemen in his age group for a few years now. Even without a trip to that tournament, Soini has been busy enough this season with stops in Ilves' U18, and U20 leagues, and even a cup of tea with the top men's Liiga, with the longest stretch being on loan to Koovee of the Mestis- Finland's second tier, with 4 points in 23 games. Despite being amongst the youngest prospects in the upcoming draft with a June 10th birthday, he has looked solid, if not spectacular against men in limited ice-time.

Soini is a stalwart in the D zone, and is poised and patient with advance anticipation and awareness, proactive positioning, and airtight gap control. He will use his size and reach to break up plays, but has a fair amount of 1-on-1 skill, and is also a fearless shot-blocker. Soini's puck-movement game starts with his picturesque retrievals, and his ability to seamlessly convert the defense to offense with crisp, tape-to-tape breakout passes. He may not be a burner, but he's a smooth skater with 4-directional mobility and excellent balance and agility. He has the edges to pivot away from attackers, the east-west to get into lanes and block passes, and the backwards smoothness to maintain gaps. Soini will battle along the boards for posession, and uses his body to shield the puck, while also keeping the crease clean and tidy. He makes good decisions with the puck, particularly when making the first-pass, but has the skill and vision to pull off some high-end plays. Like most Europeans, he exhibits good puckhandling and control, and has built-in deception in his feet and stick to fool defenders, and beat them in one-on-one confrontations.

In 2022-23, Soini was the 7th highest scoring U-18 defenseman in the U20 league, at the tender age of 16, with 10 points in 28 games. It's hard to gauge his offense this season, as he's spent most of his time in a men's league, where youngsters like him are typically not given the ice-time or responsibility needed to put up numbers, but those stats suggest that the potential is there. In the Mestis, there are only currently 5 players under the age of 18 that have played there, and Soini has played the most games by far on that list, and is second in scoring to LW Ondrej Kos. Soini has a strong point shot, can find the passing lanes in the offensive zone, and has shown the ability to make smart pinches in the past. He needs to get stronger, and keep working on his speed, but I think he'll he be a middle-pairing D someday in the NHL. 2nd/3rd round.

Here's what I'm hoping for:
Early 1st: RD Levshunov​
Late 1st: RW Hemming or Sennecke​
Early 2nd: RD Elick or Emery​
 
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Future watch has a projected top 10 for 2025.
1 D in the top 10.
1 Center in the top 5

2 years in a row of "weak" centers at the top after 2023 was stacked with centers at the top.
Following up an crazy strong D year with a weak one.


I dont have any desire to lose every game to get to #1, but it would be nice to not go on an unbelievable winning streak and pull them out of the top 5.
It'd be annoying but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I feel like Chicago will win with best odds and get the Toews to Bedard's Kane anyway. Not that I believe the league is rigging the draft, but I just feel like that's how the stars will align, towards the shittiest result possible.

Now if we did win, with me going to the draft here in my neck of the woods, that would be something. Just not getting my hopes up.
 
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It'd be annoying but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I feel like Chicago will win with best odds and get the Toews to Bedard's Kane anyway. Not that I believe the league is rigging the draft, but I just feel like that's how the stars will align, towards the shittiest result possible.

Now if we did win, with me going to the draft here in my neck of the woods, that would be something. Just not getting my hopes up.
I'm really hoping by some miracle we win it (hoping Hawks finish last and we jump them just for the revenge). My friends and I are seriously considering going to the draft since it's the last centralized one and combine it for a bachelor party in Vegas.

But yeah, I think Chicago wins it. I bet my friend before the season started again, won $1k last year but my friend didn't want to bet as high this year.
 
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Pronman's top 13 is almost exactly what I have in terms of tiers.



I put Demidov in Tier 2 and Jiricek out of tier 4. Other then that it looks really good IMO. Which is scary since I normally think his lists are bad...

I want Elick so bad. One of the best skaters in the draft who is 6'3 RHD with a mean streak. He is #22 on Pronman's list. I really hope he is there at our 2nd 1st.
Tier 2 all defenders! I will be happy if we can walk away with one of those tier 2 D.

There should be at least another forward taken top 5 likely Lindstrom. Especially if next year is also a weak C draft.
 

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I was hoping for shutdown 6'3 RD's in Elick or Emery with our high 2nd round pick, but it seems their stocks have been rising from mid-2nd to late first in some mocks. Feels like 2022 draft again with the top tier, shutdown D going early.

Here's a FloHockey link to a short video about Emery, citing shades of K'andre Miller: link.

Seeing the upward trends of Elick and Emery, I started looking for other RHD's.

6'3 RHD Dominik Badinka. He's a two-way guy. Here's a write up on him from Up Side Hockey:


6'2 RHD Sebastian Soini. He's a shutdown guy. Again from the same Up Side Hockey shared above link:


Here's what I'm hoping for:
Early 1st: RD Levshunov​
Late 1st: RW Hemming or Sennecke​
Early 2nd: RD Elick or Emery​
I think im right with you on our first 3 picks (granted i dont know that elick or emery will slide far enough for us).


That being said i expect us to be pretty aggressive at the draft, there is still part of me that is hoping we can put a package together and move up to get Iginla or MBN

Okay worst case scenario draft day comes (we end up with 4th overall)
1. Celebrini
2. Dickinson
3. Levshunov

what do we do at 4? I know its rare, but do you consider trading down with a team like Calgary(or montreal)

pick 10 + 20 for # 4(maybe we have to add a little here tho)
 
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Verbeek highlighting our need for right handed defenders in his recent interview. While talking about wanting to sign Moore he says "we've got a lot of lefties in the organisation and righties are needed".

With a draft that is bursting with right shot defenders we are definitely going to stock up.
He was talking about Forwards..
 

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I'm really hoping by some miracle we win it (hoping Hawks finish last and we jump them just for the revenge). My friends and I are seriously considering going to the draft since it's the last centralized one and combine it for a bachelor party in Vegas.

But yeah, I think Chicago wins it. I bet my friend before the season started again, won $1k last year but my friend didn't want to bet as high this year.
So far the only tickets I've seen online, it's $258. I mean I've always wanted to watch a draft in person but I always tend to have my attention wane after the top 15 or so picks so I'm still mulling it over. If it turns out that Anaheim picks top 3 it would make it an easier call.

Doing it at the Sphere would be a hell of an experience.
 
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I think im right with you on our first 3 picks (granted i dont know that elick or emery will slide far enough for us).


That being said i expect us to be pretty aggressive at the draft, there is still part of me that is hoping we can put a package together and move up to get Iginla or MBN

Okay worst case scenario draft day comes (we end up with 4th overall)
1. Celebrini
2. Dickinson
3. Levshunov

what do we do at 4? I know its rare, but do you consider trading down with a team like Calgary(or montreal)

pick 10 + 20 for # 4(maybe we have to add a little here tho)
I wouldnt trade down our first pick. It is fairly even through the top 10 but I would prefer we take "our guy" who fits the team structure rather than who ever is left on the board.

Yakemchuk/Silayev/Demidov would be the guys I go for at #4 maybe even Lindstrom to beef up our F since we are way better at finding D late than F.
 
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That being said i expect us to be pretty aggressive at the draft, there is still part of me that is hoping we can put a package together and move up to get Iginla or MBN

Okay worst case scenario draft day comes (we end up with 4th overall)
1. Celebrini
2. Dickinson
3. Levshunov

what do we do at 4? I know its rare, but do you consider trading down with a team like Calgary(or montreal)

pick 10 + 20 for # 4(maybe we have to add a little here tho)

If that's how it drops, then for me...

4. C/LW Lindstrom
Late 1st: RD Elick or Emery
Early 2nd: RD Badinka

On Badinka's EP page, the lowest he's ranked is 25th by Dobber Prospects. McKeen's has him ranked 28th. Highest is 50th by Daily Faceoff and THN: Ferrari. Central Scouting EU Mid-term has Badinka rated 12th.
 
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If we don’t get Celebrini or Lindstrom and pick at 3, I’m starting to hope we trade down and go off board to select Parekh. Maybe a team is hot on Demidov or Silayev (which I’m starting to get disappointed from his offensive upside) we can acquire an interesting asset… like Coyotes trading up from 6th to 3rd for someone like Maverick Lamareux who is turning pro next year and can be someone we develop to replace Gudas.

Using the Lines.com rankings we can add high skill in the first picks and then go for size and grit later:

1- RD Parekh
1- LW Chernyshov
2- LD Fischer / RD Elick
2- RD Roberts
3- F Wetsch
3- G Moyesevich
3- F Ruohonen
4- W Thorpe
6- W Traff
 

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If we don’t get Celebrini or Lindstrom and pick at 3, I’m starting to hope we trade down and go off board to select Parekh. Maybe a team is hot on Demidov or Silayev (which I’m starting to get disappointed from his offensive upside) we can acquire an interesting asset… like Coyotes trading up from 6th to 3rd for someone like Maverick Lamareux who is turning pro next year and can be someone we develop to replace Gudas.

Using the Lines.com rankings we can add high skill in the first picks and then go for size and grit later:

1- RD Parekh
1- LW Chernyshov
2- LD Fischer / RD Elick
2- RD Roberts
3- F Wetsch
3- G Moyesevich
3- F Ruohonen
4- W Thorpe
6- W Traff

According to this THN article, Lamoureux is still a couple of years away from the NHL. A defenseman picked at #3 could be NHL bound in that same amount of time or sooner.

Reading up on RD Levshunov, his description is a lot like Mintyukov, but with a little more experience at playing defense (b/c he's in the NCAA) and probably more built. Minty is 6'1 and 192 lbs while Lev is 6'2 and 209 lbs, could be more since he's in an NCAA program. Lev is a freshman and youngest player on the team who leads his college team in scoring (32 pts in 34 games) and +/- with +24 rating. I think one more year in college and then Lev can make the NHL jump. We can get high skill, size, and grit in Lev.
 
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