GDT: 2024 NHL Entry Draft - Day 2, 11:30 AM ESPN+ (Rangers Select EJ Emery)

[effen]

Not really. Most defensive defensemen in the NHL scored a lot at lower levels and many of the exceptions went very late or undrafted.

I don't care, I hope the kid wins the Norris ten times, but it's a very fair observation that lack of offensive ability is a dismal sign for most prospects.

Picking a random year of 2007 I've scanned Keith aulie, Jake muzzin (this might have been injury?), former rangers Justin falk, Brett bellmoore, Robert bortuzzo, and I stopped at 5 at guys with frying pans for hands at 18 who played > 100 NHL games, some far more. There's probably more for 07 but that's enough to make the point.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Would be nice but with what? Look at the draft capital we have the next two years. It's scary.
I mean I guess if you wanna trade a roster player like Jones or Kakko but I rather not.

Kakko for 2ed and 3rd?

 

[Machinehead]

Picking a random year of 2007 I've scanned Keith aulie, Jake muzzin (this might have been injury?), former rangers Justin falk, Brett bellmoore, Robert bortuzzo, and I stopped at 5 at guys with frying pans for hands at 18 who played > 100 NHL games, some far more. There's probably more for 07 but that's enough to make the point.

Riveting group of players.

 

[Vitto79]

No. He would have been gone.

Heard the Leafs wanted him next

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

Riveting group of players.

smart teams: alright it’s our first round pick let’s take a big swing here
NYR: we need to lock down the next Robert bortuzzo at all costs

 

[surlysailor]

I really hope nyr figure a way to move up and get a guy like Stiga, artamonov, Basha or freij. If not I hope they get a 3rd and grab one of Misa or He.

 

[gabevh3]

No they couldn’t have

Why not? Edmonton or leafs wanted him?

 

[gabevh3]

Rangers got their new 1st round Pick EJ Emery in the lineup tonight vs the Flyers. He is not related to Ray Emery and EJ Hradek - Sam Rosen

He's lucky it's emory

 

[Doriva]

smart teams: alright it’s our first round pick let’s take a big swing here
NYR: we need to lock down the next Robert bortuzzo at all cost

I mean Bortuzzo has been in the league for 10+ years, been an all-star and won a Stanley Cup... if that's how Emery turns out I'd be delighted. Alternatively it is ok to just say you don't know much about the player bud.

 

[bernmeister]

ALERT ALERT
OP notes coverage round 2 on "ESPN"
I went to record and ESPN has something else

= 1 of 2 things:
1) It actually is on ESPN and some programming idiot effed up
or
2) It is not on ESPN but instead on ESPN + or whetev they call that

separate pay for channel if so,
pls do keep a live thread for round 2

thnx
bern

 

[Riche16]

I've seen his opinion on other players and yes, he is a clown.

He was the one who ragged the Othmann pick because he didn't put up a ton of points in the Swiss league. The guy has no clue how to evaluate players.

Sure. Our scouts are always the smartest guys in the room but this dude is the clown.

Listen, I don't know shit about the kid but folks that criticize us for going off the board have been right 99% of the time.

Obv I hope youre correct & he is a CLOWN

Unfortunately, history shows our scouts & management are the clowns.

 

[mas0764]

Kakko for 2ed and 3rd?

No

 

[frozenrubber]

I mean Bortuzzo has been in the league for 10+ years, been an all-star and won a Stanley Cup... if that's how Emery turns out I'd be delighted. Alternatively it is ok to just say you don't know much about the player bud.

Did you just try to correct someone but listed Robert Bortuzzo's AHL All-Star nod?

Everyone knows the real future star of that 2011 AHL All-Star team was Lawrence Nycholat

 

[rangersfansince08]

I mean Bortuzzo has been in the league for 10+ years, been an all-star and won a Stanley Cup... if that's how Emery turns out I'd be delighted. Alternatively it is ok to just say you don't know much about the player bud.

You'd be delighted if our 1st round pick puts up something like 74 pts in 560 games?

 

[LOFIN]

Kakko for 2ed and 3rd?

WHY? What are you going to use that 2nd and 3rd for, that you could not use Kakko on the trade market?

We are not f***ing interested in pieces that might or might not be as good as Kakko in 4 years. f*** THEM KIDS, this team needs to win now, and Kakko is a useful piece in the bottom-6. If you trade Kakko, you need to improve the team for NEXT season.

If you need to trade Kakko to make cap room for Guentzel or something, that's a valid reason as well.

 

[Daves a mess]

Well, We landed our next Robert Bortuzzo ladies.

I don't feel the same energy in my lungs like that Sharks fan did right before their pick sadly.

 

[Good Intentions]

NHL Network.

Why does it say 8:30am? What time zone is this

 

[GAGLine]

Sure. Our scouts are always the smartest guys in the room but this dude is the clown.

Listen, I don't know shit about the kid but folks that criticize us for going off the board have been right 99% of the time.

Obv I hope youre correct & he is a CLOWN

Unfortunately, history shows our scouts & management are the clowns.

Except it isn't just our scouts. It's every scout in the world except for Kevin Bacon's half-wit brother.

Bob McKenzie had Emery at 27th overall. His rankings are based on information he gets from actual scouts across all different teams. No other ranking had him lower than 56th, and Craig Button had him as high as 16th. But sure, defend the clown who ranked him 202nd.

 

[Savant]

Why not? Edmonton or leafs wanted him?

Yes. Leafs wanted him bad

 

[Riche16]

Except it isn't just our scouts. It's every scout in the world except for Kevin Bacon's half-wit brother.

Bob McKenzie had Emery at 27th overall. His rankings are based on information he gets from actual scouts across all different teams. No other ranking had him lower than 56th, and Craig Button had him as high as 16th. But sure, defend the clown who ranked him 202nd.

Not defending him.

I said you don't know if he's right or wrong yet.

Maybe it's my fault for being a NYR fan & having lived through the McIlraths, Lias', Krapsovs over the years when there were actual players sill on the board.

I have ZERO faith in our front office, ESPECIALLY when it comes to drafting.

 

[Savant]

Not defending him.

I said you don't know if he's right or wrong yet.

Maybe it's my fault for being a NYR fan & having lived through the McIlraths, Lias', Krapsovs over the years when there were actual players sill on the board.

I have ZERO faith in our front office, ESPECIALLY when it comes to drafting.

You can’t cry over spilled milk. Also all those guys you named were top 10 picks. Emery went 30th. That’s a different bar.

You can have zero faith when to comes to drafting, but also don’t hold Sather and Gorton’s sins over Drury. There is plenty of things to criticize Drury on. This isn’t one of them

 

[Riche16]

You can’t cry over spilled milk. Also all those guys you named were top 10 picks. Emery went 30th. That’s a different bar.

You can have zero faith when to comes to drafting, but also don’t hold Sather and Gorton’s sins over Drury. There is plenty of things to criticize Drury on. This isn’t one of them

Fair point.

Same scouts tho right? Drury didn't clean house when he stepped in.

I guess it's just that it feels the same to me regardless of regime.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Fair point.

Same scouts tho right? Drury didn't clean house when he stepped in.

I guess it's just that it feels the same to me regardless of regime.

He did clean house. Try to keep up!

No reason to get this worked up on a Saturday morning when this kid won't sniff the NHL for at least 3-4 years.

 

[Savant]

Fair point.

Same scouts tho right? Drury didn't clean house when he stepped in.

I guess it's just that it feels the same to me regardless of regime.

I mean Gordon and Bobrov were the ones with the keys on the Lias and Kravtsov picks. Would be very silly to blame Drury for that

 

[jay from jersey]

Don’t hate the pick, don’t love it either. Kid seems like an eraser of a D man… not 1 that’s going to uses bone jarring hits, but his strength and athleticism.
He still seems very raw in terms adding any offense/carrying the puck whatsoever.
At the 30th pick, I’m not expecting a finished product. There’s always something they need to improve on.
Drury and co are banking on Emery to develop his game with the puck on his stick and first pass out of the zone….
He’s not a totally off the board pick, most every scout had him in this range give or take a few spots one way or the other.
I like that the things he’s very good at, we lack on the big club, now it’s about getting him to learn the other things to make him a more complete player.
I can see why others maybe want boom/bust potential this late in the 1st, or a FWD.
So far, I like the players Drury has drafted since taking the reins…
They all have their flaws, but they all are competitors who don’t shy away from the physical side of the game. So I’ll give him the benefit of a doubt in that regard.
We’ll just have to wait and see how the kid progresses now