Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Bone Density]

Maybe Eiserman falls a bit, but the only other winger in that range is Iglinla. I like Greentree, but wouldn't be thrilled with him at 10 lol. I think it's pretty likely we take a C/D if the pick isn't traded. Still a lot of games left, so we'll see where the pick ends up.

 

[Guttersniped]

BPA unless it’s a thin line of difference.

It’s debatable whether Helenius ends up at center in the NHL, he’s undersized and his skating is non-elite, so he shouldn’t be targeted at one.

 

[Guadana]

BPA is a different thing in the eyes of different people. Remember how Lambert was BPA in the eyes of scouching and eliteprospects. They died on that hill.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Target Iginla, no matter what.

 

[bossram]

If they hold on to it, a pick in the top 8-12 range will have a lot of interesting names available.

Silaev or Dickinson might be around as the more sturdy, bigger defensemen. I like Leshunov, and he likely won't be around at that point, but it's possible. Will be a lot of options for a defenseman in this range with Buium, Parekh as well.

Tij Iginla is an option as a "power forward" (quotes intentional) type in this range. I'm a big Berkley Catton fan in this range. And there's Helenius too.

 

[forceten]

Our luck is that we'll rack up meaningless wins in April and fall to 14-16 and get @My3Sons's golden retriever which would admittedly be a friend to Dawson Mercer but otherwise not helpful.

 

[My3Sons]

Our luck is that we'll rack up meaningless wins in April and fall to 14-16 and get @My3Sons's golden retriever which would admittedly be a friend to Dawson Mercer but otherwise not helpful.

Our male would be like Hischier in that he'd take a total beating and just keep going (no brain no pain) but you'd want him to lift his leg to pee on Rempe or something.

 

[forceten]

Our male would be like Hischier in that he'd take a total beating and just keep going (no brain no pain) but you'd want him to lift his leg to pee on Rempe or something.

Oh definitely I think if we draft a dog we still want it to be a sociopath.

 

[My3Sons]

Oh definitely I think if we draft a dog we still want it to be a sociopath.

Then it will have to be a terrier. My brother had two Jack Russells and those were menaces.

 

[forceten]

Then it will have to be a terrier. My brother had two Jack Russells and those were menaces.

I prefer Russell's Reserve for that reason

 

[Brodeur]

NHL Draft 2024 ranking: Celebrini No. 1 on Pronman's list, Silayev and Dickinson next

The top five picks in this year's draft class all look like potential impact players in the NHL.

theathletic.com

Updated Pronman ranking, broken into (his) tiers:

Elite NHL Player: Macklin Celebrini
NHL All Star: Anton Silayev, Sam Dickinson, Carter Yakemchuk, Artyom Levshunov
Bubble All-Star: Berkly Catton, Ivan Demidov, Cayden Lindstrom
Top of lineup: Zayne Parekh, Zeev Buium, Konsta Helenius, Adam Jiricek, Cole Eiserman
Top six upside: Igor Chernyshov, Beckett Sennecke, Tij Iginla, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard

 

[Japam]

Draft someone with grit.

 

[Billdo]

NHL Draft 2024 ranking: Celebrini No. 1 on Pronman's list, Silayev and Dickinson next

The top five picks in this year's draft class all look like potential impact players in the NHL.

theathletic.com

Updated Pronman ranking, broken into (his) tiers:

Elite NHL Player: Macklin Celebrini
NHL All Star: Anton Silayev, Sam Dickinson, Carter Yakemchuk, Artyom Levshunov
Bubble All-Star: Berkly Catton, Ivan Demidov, Cayden Lindstrom
Top of lineup: Zayne Parekh, Zeev Buium, Konsta Helenius, Adam Jiricek, Cole Eiserman
Top six upside: Igor Chernyshov, Beckett Sennecke, Tij Iginla, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard

Dickinson and Silayev are bigger defenseman. Yakemchuk has some snarl. Zeev is slick. There's a lot of good defenseman in the top of this draft.

 

[forceten]

BPA... and make trades for what we need.

 

[Andre Palot]

Is there any reason why Eiserman has dropped so drastically over the past few months?

 

[Wierzbowski426]

Is there any reason why Eiserman has dropped so drastically over the past few months?

People seem to think hes a one-trick pony from what I've seen (shot) and there are questions about his compete/mentality.

The same stuff they said about Phil Kessel.

 

[Brodeur]

Is there any reason why Eiserman has dropped so drastically over the past few months?

From Bob McKenzie's January survey/ranking:

U.S. National Development Team Program goal-scoring whiz Cole Eiserman, No. 2 on TSN’s Pre-Season Draft Rankings, has fallen to No. 4. But slipping two spots in the overall rankings doesn’t fully illustrate, relatively speaking, the precipitous decline the American forward has experienced in the eyes of some scouts.

In September, one scout ranked Eiserman ahead of Celebrini at No. 1; five others had him at No. 2 and four more at No. 3. In the mid-season survey, conducted during the week of Jan. 15, Eiserman received only two second-place votes; three third-place votes; two seventh-place votes and one each for Nos. 5, 6 and 9. He’s still a top prospect but trending in the wrong direction, though there’s still plenty of time to reverse it.

The No. 4-ranked Eiserman represents a fascinating storyline. As mentioned previously, his stock is trending down, but his goal scoring isn’t.

He scored a pair of goals Saturday night, giving him 34 in 31 games for the U.S. U-18 squad. He has 103 career goals in the U.S. National Development Team Program, which leaves him one shy of Phil Kessel’s career output and 23 from Cole Caufield’s USNDTP-record 126.

So what gives with his stock falling?

“He has not developed any kind of backup game to his scoring,” one scout said. “He’s so one dimensional, so interested in just getting his goals that it’s sometimes a detriment to his play. You would like to see him play with more pace, be more competitive, because the goals may not be as plentiful at the next level.”

But he quite likely owns the best shot in the draft and from the blueline in there’s no one more dangerous.

“If you’re going to be a one-trick pony, scoring goals is the best trick to have,” another scout said. “He’s better than a goal-a-game player, which is incredible. But we certainly expected more from him in terms of his play this season and we haven’t seen it yet.”

Sportsnet's Jason Bukala compared Eiserman to Owen Tippett; Bukala was a scout for Florida when they took Tippett. Heard others compare Eiserman to guys like Oliver Wahlstrom and Mike Hoffman.

Edit: YouTube algorithm pushed this to my feed:



Chris Peters said it was also also due to other players doing well along with the question marks about about Eiserman's overall game.

 

[Guadana]

Is there any reason why Eiserman has dropped so drastically over the past few months?

Shot first player with not so great other skills. Not so smart overall too. As it was with Shane Wright, I want to draft other players for Devils.

BPA... and make trades for what we need.

How we can understand who is more better player - two way big defenseman with skates and positional play or smaller forward with some great skills and flash but with some cons. Scouching and eliteprospects kids called Lambert one or the best player available. He wasnt and he isnt.
Overall - its very debatable and this "BPA narrative" as it is should be stopped to use, because mostly its a pure speculation.
BTW I agree, we should draft better player over need. Mostly. Something like that.

 

[My3Sons]

Shot first player with not so great other skills. Not so smart overall too. As it was with Shane Wright, I want to draft other players for Devils.

How we can understand who is more better player - two way big defenseman with skates and positional play or smaller forward with some great skills and flash but with some cons. Scouching and eliteprospects kids called Lambert one or the best player available. He wasnt and he isnt.
Overall - its very debatable and this "BPA narrative" as it is should be stopped to use, because mostly its a pure speculation.
BTW I agree, we should draft better player over need. Mostly. Something like that.

Is there a center that can skate well who might fall to NJ? To me that would be ideal but ultimately they have to draft the player at whatever position they believe will make the biggest NHL impact.

 

[NJDfan86]

Is there a center that can skate well who might fall to NJ? To me that would be ideal but ultimately they have to draft the player at whatever position they believe will make the biggest NHL impact.

We are currently sitting inside the top 10 (#9) and Pronman had Lindstrom falling to 8 in his rankings - though my guess is that is due to the fact he has been out with injury for a bit. Catton would be another potential top 10 pick at C.

 

[Guadana]

Is there a center that can skate well who might fall to NJ? To me that would be ideal but ultimately they have to draft the player at whatever position they believe will make the biggest NHL impact.

Helenius could be there, but I would prefer defensemen. I like them more. Even if we hardly need in center. If Catton or Lindstrom will be available somehow - they are no brainer picks. Lindstrom is a smart power forward who can play center role, with hands, speed etc(God, I hope we will draft him somehow, I like him and I like players like him overall, I just cant see how he can be available), Catton is dynamic two way shooter center who can play very solid defensive game. But we need to be higher. Rankings of this people are meaningless, I believe both will be picked in top-6. I think Lindstrom could be drafted as high as 2nd and Catton could be even third(little bit high for him). The question is who will pick. Ducks will prefer to draft defenseman. More questions with other teams. We dont know what Black hawks thinks about Moore - do they think he and Nazar could be their potential second line center or not. And I dont believe that Lindstrom will be available for even 5-6th pick. I dont believe Catton will be available for 8-10th pick. Especially for 9-10th.

 

[Guadana]

So for people who has interest.





Two available games.

 

[evnted]

one other point on lindstrom is he was supposed to return mid-february from a hand injury that he sustained back in december and he still isnt playing yet, so he already fits in with our team/med staff

 

[Guadana]

one other point on lindstrom is he was supposed to return mid-february from a hand injury that he sustained back in december and he still isnt playing yet, so he already fits in with our team/med staff

Is it his right or left hand? Big part of his game is on his hands.

 

[MasterofGrond]

I think at least one of Catton, Lindstrom, and Helenius will fall to where we will probably be picking (not because they're not good but because I think this draft is loaded with really good defenseman). I would be happy with any of them. They're all average to great skaters with real offensive potential.

Catton is the best skater and has the highest ceiling, I think, but is the smallest and least physical.

Lindstrom skates well and is a big boy, but I think is IQ is a little fringier.

Helenius is a merely ok skater, but has the most polished game. From my limited viewings, I think he's a Lenni type.

I think that is the order I'd rank them in a vacuum, but for the Devils, I think I'd roll the dice on Lindstrom's hockey sense, because he's just a type of guy the team could use and I don't think he's a significantly worse prospect.