Given the current climate I’m surpsied Nabokov would go as high as the third given the subject matter of Lolita. That aside he must be playing well for a guy who died in 1977.
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Given the current climate I’m surpsied Nabokov would go as high as the third given the subject matter of Lolita. That aside he must be playing well for a guy who died in 1977.
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Even after death he will be canceled immediately in modern climate. League is trying to be younger and bullish to olders.
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Iginla and Brandsegg Nygard are the two guys I like most right now in the 10-14 range for the Devils. Both guys have non stop motors, 200ft games and the offensive skill to play in a top 6. Exact types of forwards this team could use more of.
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Lindstrom falling to us would make me very happy after enduring this season from hell. Dude is a menace, although he's definitely a bit of a project.
I'd love to draft Brandsegg and put him on a line with Hameenaho to form a Ham and Eggs line.
I think it would be surprising if he made it out of the top 3-5 picks. Too much physical talent and the current production is good enough.
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Agreed, it's why I've never even brought it up before, size etc will be too much for other GMs to pass over. Eiserman or one of the D men seem more likely.
For the Devils, I think I take Lindstrom over anyone not named Celebrini this draft - fits what we are missing ver well.
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Lindstrom and Catton would be perfect, but I would not start this discussion until Devils will drop to top 6.
Man, oh man….after looking at Lindstrom’s profile and reading up on him, he’s exactly the kind of forward we can use.
I haven’t seen a mock draft that has Catton lower than 8. Unless we completely free fall, he seems highly unlikely.
Iginla would be a fine pick between 11-15 and also seems like a great fit.
I haven’t seen a mock draft that has Catton lower than 8. Unless we completely free fall, he seems highly unlikely.
Iginla would be a fine pick between 11-15 and also seems like a great fit.
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Getting back into it. Starting with a preliminary look at the Devils' current first round pick. So barring any Lottery magic (Taylor Hall sends his regards), we're slotted in the 10th pick. Looking particularly at centers, that leaves a few folks in that range:
Konsta Helenius (8th on Bob's List, 13th on Morreale's List):
Very smart play-driver whose skating isn't super high-end. That being said, he skates hard and pushes the pace of play. However, I think there's a lack of a top-end speed and acceleration. His edges are good and he uses them to his advantage, but on initial viewings, he'll need to work on getting that extra step in speed if he wants to reach his ceiling. I like how he reads and anticipates plays, especially driving offense. His shot is good and well-placed, but lacks a sort of high-end speed to it. I'm not worried about that because we saw with Jack that can be dramatically improved. I only bring it up because when I see Helenius play, he strikes me as a player without a single high-end physical trait, but is able to be successful because of his high-end intelligence. In terms of play style comparison, I'd say he's more of a Nick Suzuki type. There's a lot of Sebastian Aho in his game too, but there's a difference in skating.
Berkly Catton (10th on Bob's List, 8th on Morreale's List):
I would guess that Catton is at the top of the Devils' scouting staff list for this pick. Catton is a very good skater with a natural ability to score goals. What especially seals it in my mind is that Catton is exceptional at generating offense off the rush. It's not uncommon for Catton to drive into heavy traffic himself and come out with a point on the board. Reminds me quite a bit of Jack in that regard (or any young player that's highly skilled compared to his piers), and it's something that he'll need to learn how to do with less space and time at the professional level. Catton's skating is better overall than Helenius, but will need to improve, especially with his edges. I like Catton's wrist shot and his puck skills, but what stands out most for me is his vision.
Cayden Lindstrom (5th on Bob's List, 7th on Morreale's Lsit)
This kid will get picked very high...strikes me as the type of late-riser in the polls. Big guy who can skate fast and plays physical. At this point, Lindstrom's game revolves heavily around his size, speed, and shot. He has powerful skating strides. In terms of a player comparison, he strikes me as a rich man's Josh Anderson. I'm writing this a little light, because I think Lindstrom ends up getting picked in the top-5, well before the Devils pick (unless the bottom absolutely falls out).
Some other names that I'll edit this post later to include:
Ryder Ritchie (21st on Bob's List, 21st on Morreale's List)
Sacha Boisvert (22nd on Bob's List, 16th on Morreale's List)
Tij Iginla (16th on Bob's List, 10th on Morreale's List):
I still can't shake the feeling that this pick is ultimately traded for goaltending help. If the Devils get another first round pick from, say, a Tyler Toffoli trade, then we can take another look at the later first round)
Konsta Helenius (8th on Bob's List, 13th on Morreale's List):
Very smart play-driver whose skating isn't super high-end. That being said, he skates hard and pushes the pace of play. However, I think there's a lack of a top-end speed and acceleration. His edges are good and he uses them to his advantage, but on initial viewings, he'll need to work on getting that extra step in speed if he wants to reach his ceiling. I like how he reads and anticipates plays, especially driving offense. His shot is good and well-placed, but lacks a sort of high-end speed to it. I'm not worried about that because we saw with Jack that can be dramatically improved. I only bring it up because when I see Helenius play, he strikes me as a player without a single high-end physical trait, but is able to be successful because of his high-end intelligence. In terms of play style comparison, I'd say he's more of a Nick Suzuki type. There's a lot of Sebastian Aho in his game too, but there's a difference in skating.
Berkly Catton (10th on Bob's List, 8th on Morreale's List):
I would guess that Catton is at the top of the Devils' scouting staff list for this pick. Catton is a very good skater with a natural ability to score goals. What especially seals it in my mind is that Catton is exceptional at generating offense off the rush. It's not uncommon for Catton to drive into heavy traffic himself and come out with a point on the board. Reminds me quite a bit of Jack in that regard (or any young player that's highly skilled compared to his piers), and it's something that he'll need to learn how to do with less space and time at the professional level. Catton's skating is better overall than Helenius, but will need to improve, especially with his edges. I like Catton's wrist shot and his puck skills, but what stands out most for me is his vision.
Cayden Lindstrom (5th on Bob's List, 7th on Morreale's Lsit)
This kid will get picked very high...strikes me as the type of late-riser in the polls. Big guy who can skate fast and plays physical. At this point, Lindstrom's game revolves heavily around his size, speed, and shot. He has powerful skating strides. In terms of a player comparison, he strikes me as a rich man's Josh Anderson. I'm writing this a little light, because I think Lindstrom ends up getting picked in the top-5, well before the Devils pick (unless the bottom absolutely falls out).
Some other names that I'll edit this post later to include:
Ryder Ritchie (21st on Bob's List, 21st on Morreale's List)
Sacha Boisvert (22nd on Bob's List, 16th on Morreale's List)
Tij Iginla (16th on Bob's List, 10th on Morreale's List):
I still can't shake the feeling that this pick is ultimately traded for goaltending help. If the Devils get another first round pick from, say, a Tyler Toffoli trade, then we can take another look at the later first round)
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agreed with a lot of this. trying to keep things short:
-great read on helenius, and id add an emphasis on his motor/willingness to get to the dirty areas, too. great forechecking and a player who not only seeks out puck battles, but is quite effective at them. i wouldnt even add the caveat good for his size, i think his compete, smarts, stickwork, and willingness to engage physically makes him effective in general
-catton profile is spot on. beautiful reads and ideas on the puck, and with purpose, too, not just for the sake of flash. what hes doing in the WHL right now, on a one line team in spokane no less, is hard to deny. there might be a little bit of a redundancy concern given our lineup, but it would be hard to turn down the value of picking him. part of me wonders if hes this years benson and winds up going later than what the public/armchair community expects
-super charged josh anderson is the exact comparison ive said for lindstrom and youre probably the only other person ive seen use it so far. oppressive force on the puck, and outright mean at times without it. i have some questions on processing, playmaking upside, and reliance on attacking from the wing, but thats more of an issue for teams picking in that top 3-5 region, hes a pretty slam dunk option for our roster if hes there
-without a trade back attempt, this would be much too early for ritchie/boisvert for me. in the scenario where all 3 of the aforementioned forwards go, i think we might be looking at a pretty solid defender slipping down the board and id be content to go that route
glad to see youre getting back into things again
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TSN filling in the trade deadline coverage with a mock lottery + draft.
Parekh at #2 seems a bit high. Montreal taking another winger also wouldn't be how I'd have my mock. I had Buium going to Minnesota in my futile mock as well, but I had Dickinson going earlier.
Also that Tampa pick is going to Chicago as part of the Hagel trade, ditto Pittsburgh's going to SJ.
Edit: My futile mock assuming same lottery results -
1. San Jose - C Macklin Celebrini - former Junior Shark, dad works for the Warriors, and a BU guy for Mike Grier. Tin foil hat crowd would probably love the Sharks winning the lottery.
2. Ottawa - RD Artyom Levshunov - balances out their D. Maybe not big offensive upside but having an arguably better freshman season than Owen Power.
3. Chicago - LD Anton Silayev - hope that Bedard/Silayev is their version of Stamkos/Hedman.
4. Anaheim - RW Ivan Demidov - Verbeek hopes he can be their version of Kucherov.
5. Columbus - C Cayden Lindstrom - Nice long term combo with Fantilli going forward. If Columbus were to hire Mark Hunter as their new GM, maybe some consideration for Dickinson?
6. Arizona - LD Sam Dickinson - Eiserman a consideration here, but maybe scared off by his compete level. Arizona kicked the tires on Noah Hanifin earlier, so they get a similar type guy in Dickinson.
7. Montreal - C Berkly Catton - Probably a center here. Catton has higher offensive upside than Helenius.
*** Buffalo trades #8 to San Jose for #11 and #44
8. San Jose (via BUF) - LW Cole Eiserman - Ideally Sharks would add a RHD but they'll have a couple more years to rebuild. Another BU guy for Grier.
9. Minnesota - LD Zeev Buium - Fantastic freshman year at DU. Wild could use LD prospect depth.
10. New Jersey - C Konsta Helenius - High motor center, maybe not high end skill.
11. Buffalo (via PIT/SJS) - RD Carter Yakemchuk - Balances out their D. Lots of young forwards already in the system.
12. St. Louis - RD Zayne Parekh - High end offensive D, questionable defensively. Blues D getting a little bit old.
13. Seattle - RD Adam Jiricek - Have gone forward with its three first rounders. U18 teammate with Seattle's top pick Eduard Sale last year. Jiricek has been injured, so he might be a draft day wild card. Sounds like not as much offensive upside as his brother.
14. Calgary - LW Tij Iginla - Too obvious of a pick? Part of me wonders if they might bypass him out of courtesy so he doesn't have to be in his father's shadow. But probably BPA at this point and a big PR win.
15. Washington - C Sacha Boisvert - Slight reach / need pick. Center depth for this draft isn't great. Maybe trade down for a team looking for a winger (Brandsegg-Nygard/Greentree/Connelly/Hemming)?
16. Chicago (via TBL) - LW/RW Liam Greentree - Polarizing guy, some see a raw player with Jason Robertson upside. Others see a clumsy guy who won't project to the next level.
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Not that my mock draft means anything, but I had a scenario where Buffalo might not risk trading down and would stay pat for Yakemchuk at #8. That then made Cole Eiserman an option at #10 which was surprising but Oliver Wahlstrom seems to be a recurring comp of late.
Until our that west coast trip, our first was around #14. So I was figuring we'd be debating between a winger and hadn't watched much on Helenius until this week.
The other X-factor was not knowing exactly how Gritsyuk fits in the near future.
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I got to see iginla play live a couple weeks back, and was actually unimpressed. In that game his team got slaughtered 12-1 I think so... Maybe an outlier.
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what a joy dickinson at 10 would be, thank you tsn
way too unrealistic to get my hopes upsolid mock, i would be quite content with helenius there. i can definitely understand people not being too enthused about expending this high of a pick on an undersized forward who's gonna slot in behind jack and nico, but for a team that preaches so much importance on trying to have the best top 9 in the league, you're not gonna get much better than the HHH center depth we could potentially be deploying. amazing play driving, pace, smarts, and compete, with a solid baseline skill level to work from. really nice fit for a 3C while still in the same general mold of what we like up front. cant understate the importance of needing better options to play up the lineup when jack and/or nico go down, too. learned that the hard way this year lol
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Don’t forget about Henrique.
I forgot that Helenius would be another H to replace Haula.
Yea I’d sign up for Dickinson at 10 in a heartbeat - hard to have a better fit there.
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Definitely should aim for a center or defenseman. I still like Yakemchuk a lot even with Casey on the horizon. I think the "Corey Perry on D" is a good comparison.
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