Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[PizzaAndPucks]

Drafting a center with top 6 upside is a huge need with Hischier only being signed for like 3 more seasons. You have to start thinking about the future if he were to leave. The only issue is that there aren't many available so we should stick to BPA for this draft.

 

[StevenToddIves]

A few of the main draft guides have been released now. Some rankings of note for Devils fans:

MBS
- Wheeler: 14
- Pronman: 17
- Elite Prospects: 16

Helenius
- W: 10
- P: 14
- EP: 11

Catton
- W: 8
- P: 6
- EP: 8

Sennecke
- W: 17
- P: 7
- EP: 9

Lindstrom (no publication thinks he'll make it to 10+)
- W: 11
- P: 10
- EP 3

My rankings should come out in the next few days. They'll be a bit different.

 

[MartyOwns]

I think it's a trade NJ ultimately loses. I'm skeptical the value will be there. Especially if they move that pick for a goalie. Ullmark for Saros for 10? No thanks. Both will be signing boat anchor contracts.

there's really no other way to get an above average goalie aside from drafting one, which most of this board has been vehemently against when we've had high picks in the past. we're going to have to overpay and possibly sign a contract that we'll have to pay someone to take off our books in 4 years, that's how it goes.

our biggest need for the last 10 years has arguably been a goalie...fitz needs to fix it or gtfo of jersey. #10 is our best bargaining chip, and i'm very confident he'll do the right thing.

 

[My3Sons]

there's really no other way to get an above average goalie aside from drafting one, which most of this board has been vehemently against when we've had high picks in the past. we're going to have to overpay and possibly sign a contract that we'll have to pay someone to take off our books in 4 years, that's how it goes.

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our biggest need for the last 10 years has arguably been a goalie...fitz needs to fix it or gtfo of jersey. #10 is our best bargaining chip, and i'm very confident he'll do the right thing.

There doesn't seem to be a great target for goalie that lines up easily. If NJ had a late first that would return a rental like Saros or Ullmark sure but I wouldn't give up 10 for a goalie needing a new big deal.

 

[MartyOwns]

There doesn't seem to be a great target for goalie that lines up easily. If NJ had a late first that would return a rental like Saros or Ullmark sure but I wouldn't give up 10 for a goalie needing a new big deal.

absolutely agreed, we should’ve drafted askarov. but this is the hand we’ve been dealt, and unfortunately we’re going to have to overpay for an above average goalie. this team is shaping up really nice, especially with the best coach we’ve had in a decade. we just need a goalie that isn’t terrible, and i trust fitz to finally rectify that with our pick.

and it doesn’t have to be a one for one swap. we can add and potentially get someone who isn’t ullmark or saros. that’s right- i’m talking about markstrom! no no he sucks shit, but you know what i mean.

 

[bossram]

If we draft Muhammed bin Salman I’ll be so disappointed

That'll give the Devils a lot of money and control of a lot oil. Could be the play.

 

[Xirik]

Fitz is just giving the news writer a freebie by saying "anything can happen" for clicks. I wouldn't read much into it.

 

[longislanddevil]

The only goalie I’d trade 10OA for is Askarov.

 

[My3Sons]

The only goalie I’d trade 10OA for is Askarov.

I'd at least think about moving it for Shesterkin if the Rangers threw in a couple of extra firsts and retained the maximum.

 

[Nubmer6]

The only goalie I’d trade 10OA for is Askarov.

Is do it for Walstedt too , or possibly Swayman but neither of those are gonna happen.

I wouldn't be THAT surprised if Fitz had a deal in the works for Askarov considering the smoke around him being available last year. It would probably be like the Cory deal, where it was announced at the time of the pick because it would be contingent on whether a certain player or players were still on the board when the pick came up.

 

[Guadana]

there's really no other way to get an above average goalie aside from drafting one, which most of this board has been vehemently against when we've had high picks in the past. we're going to have to overpay and possibly sign a contract that we'll have to pay someone to take off our books in 4 years, that's how it goes.

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our biggest need for the last 10 years has arguably been a goalie...fitz needs to fix it or gtfo of jersey. #10 is our best bargaining chip, and i'm very confident he'll do the right thing.

We didn't lost young top 6/top 4 talent undr control for Palat. Its a bad trade.

 

[Goptor]

Is do it for Walstedt too , or possibly Swayman but neither of those are gonna happen.

I wouldn't be THAT surprised if Fitz had a deal in the works for Askarov considering the smoke around him being available last year. It would probably be like the Cory deal, where it was announced at the time of the pick because it would be contingent on whether a certain player or players were still on the board when the pick came up.

I'd walk that 10th overall pick redeemable ticket to the airport myself if it brought back Swayman.

 

[njdevils1982]

I'd at least think about moving it for Shesterkin if the Rangers threw in a couple of extra firsts and retained the maximum.

have you learned nothing from the grabner trojan horse trade?

shesterkin would come here and sink the ship

 

[Stephen Gionta]

I would be very surprised if the Devils don't trade this pick.

My prediction: This pick is traded to Nashville with Askarov coming back to NJ.

Not sure what else would have to be involved in the trade, if anything at all. A straight up swap of 10th overall for Askarov seems pretty fair to me.

 

[Guadana]

After SCF Dallas Stars drafted Bourque and JOHNSTON in the first round. And very intriguing prospect Bischel. They drafted Stankoven in the second round.
Devils played in playoff ONCE in the playoff and only in the second round and already trade their seconds like its nothing and now we are talking about trading the first.

Sorry but its a bad management.

 

[Nubmer6]

I would be very surprised if the Devils don't trade this pick.

My prediction: This pick is traded to Nashville with Askarov coming back to NJ.

Not sure what else would have to be involved in the trade, if anything at all. A straight up swap of 10th overall for Askarov seems pretty fair to me.

I'd presume one of Daws or Schmidt would go too. I'd try 10OA, Daws/Schmidt and a 3rd rounder for Askarov and their 2nd rounder.

 

[MartyOwns]

We didn't lost young top 6/top 4 talent undr control for Palat. Its a bad trade.

so we didn't lose the draft pick, which we don't know who it will be or whether he'll pan out, that we didn't lose for palat, whose contract could very well prevent us from bringing someone in down the line. and the trade, which we don't know what we might package along with #10 and we have no idea what the return might be, is bad. sounds reasonable to me!

I would be very surprised if the Devils don't trade this pick.

My prediction: This pick is traded to Nashville with Askarov coming back to NJ.

Not sure what else would have to be involved in the trade, if anything at all. A straight up swap of 10th overall for Askarov seems pretty fair to me.

please post that on the main boards lmao

 

[njdevils1982]

Fitz is just giving the news writer a freebie by saying "anything can happen" for clicks. I wouldn't read much into it.

yes... "anything can happen" ...in jersey

oh my

 

[longislanddevil]

If Trotz is serious about wanting to work out an extension for Saros and they do come to terms, Askarov would have to be traded. He’d have no path to starting.

I would also trade the pick for Wallstedt or Swayman as others have mentioned but don’t see either happening.

There’s no way Markstrom (obviously), Ullmark or even Saros are worth 10OA given their ages and contractual situations.

 

[Guadana]

so we didn't lose the draft pick, which we don't know who it will be or whether he'll pan out, that we didn't lose for palat, whose contract could very well prevent us from bringing someone in down the line. and the trade, which we don't know what we might package along with #10 and we have no idea what the return might be, is bad. sounds reasonable to me!


please post that on the main boards lmao

Palat was signed for free. 10OA pick will play for food for 3 years. Trading playet with top-6 potential for player like Ulmark and Saros who can cooked in the next couple of years isnt the same as sign player who can cooked in the next couple of years from the market for free. Want Ullmark or Saros - go wait and trade him on the trade deadline for less or sign him on free agent market for nothing. Top-10 pick is a top-10 pick. There are no other chances to take top-6 top-4 talent for free, there will be free agent market for both Ullmark and Saros next summer.


ITS A STUPID MOVE. And i dont see any reasons to not understand it.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

Palat was signed for free. 10OA pick will play for food for 3 years. Trading playet with top-6 potential for player like Ulmark and Saros who can cooked in the next couple of years isnt the same as sign player who can cooked in the next couple of years isnt the same. Want Ullmark or Saros - go wait and trade him on the trade deadline for less or sign him on free agent market for nothing. Top-10 pick is a top-10 pick. There are no other chances to take top-6 top-4 talent for free, there will be free agent market for both Ullmark and Saros next summer.


ITS A STUPID MOVE. And i dont see any reasons to not understand it.

Preach....Amen....Well said

Trotz is trading Saros not Askarov even he knows he will be an anchor in four years....He only resigns him if aav is reasonable....

 

[MartyOwns]

Palat was signed for free. 10OA pick will play for food for 3 years. Trading playet with top-6 potential for player like Ulmark and Saros who can cooked in the next couple of years isnt the same as sign player who can cooked in the next couple of years isnt the same. Want Ullmark or Saros - go wait and trade him on the trade deadline for less or sign him on free agent market for nothing. Top-10 pick is a top-10 pick. There are no other chances to take top-6 top-4 talent for free, there will be free agent market for both Ullmark and Saros next summer.


ITS A STUPID MOVE. And i dont see any reasons to not understand it.

yeah, good goalies get traded at the deadline or signed in UFA all the time. let's instead draft the mystery box, who you are assuring me has "top-6 top-4 talent" so he can join our team in 2027.

the only thing stopping our window from being open now is a decent goalie. every. single. year, we bitch about our goaltending, yet nobody seems to want to do what's required to get one.

 

[Guadana]

yeah, good goalies get traded at the deadline or signed in UFA all the time. let's instead draft the mystery box, who you are assuring me has "top-6 top-4 talent" so he can join our team in 2027.

the only thing stopping our window from being open now is a decent goalie. every. single. year, we bitch about our goaltending, yet nobody seems to want to do what's required to get one.

30 32 yo goalies? Bobrovsky was signed. Markstrom was signed. Holtby was signed. Ullmark and Saros will be free agents.

Yes its better to draft "mistery box". Because its mistery box for people who didnt watch young players. 30+ yo goalies are the same mistery boxes. They are not doing well after 30 years mostly. But even if they do - its for 3-4 years for top price under the cap. If your top-10 draft pick will do it well - its for free three years and at least +4 more controlling years. Or +7-8 best years of his pick performance.

Nope. Its not goalie. We lost to Carolina not because of goalies, team played very badly. We were bad this years because of goalies too, but goalies were not the main reason. Vanecek won 17 games and lost 9 this year, 3 OTL.
Its not about goalies. At all. Hellebuyck and Shestorkin are great. I believe they will like to buy new golf sticks. Allen stands on his head when was drafted, we won nothing with his performance. If we will fix bad team depth by goaltending we will fix nothing.
You're misidentifying the real problems of the team. Goalie should be okay. he shouldnt be top level. We have enough examples of Shestyorkins and Sorokins who cant win, we have examples of Hill and Kuemper who won it. Vasilevsky won it because he had great team with huge depth ahead of him.

 

[bossram]

There doesn't seem to be a great target for goalie that lines up easily. If NJ had a late first that would return a rental like Saros or Ullmark sure but I wouldn't give up 10 for a goalie needing a new big deal.

Agreed. There is just really no good goalie target that would be worth playing the 10th overall. It would have to be an elite guy, still in his younger prime years, that is either under contract or you can reasonably get him signed long-term through his prime. Literally the only player that fits this is Swayman, and Boston isn't moving him. They're shipping Ullmark.

The 10th overall is way too much to pay for a goalie who is already past his prime years and a pending UFA (Saros, Ullmark, and especially Markstrom).

Just use the pick. They'll get an elite prospect. Keep the system flush with talent coming up.

 

[Devs3cups]

Drafting a center with top 6 upside is a huge need with Hischier only being signed for like 3 more seasons. You have to start thinking about the future if he were to leave. The only issue is that there aren't many available so we should stick to BPA for this draft.

While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not even slightly worried about Nico leaving. He feels like a Devil for life. Captain, drafted here, loves the area, young promising core, shouldn't be TOO expensive. Feels like he's bought in 100%.

Depth is always good though, that's for sure!