Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

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As crazy as it is, I can see Zeev Buium in the top 3. If he falls to 10, I wouldn’t be mad.

He was a major contributor to a less talented Deven team that won the NCAA Frozen 4. I personally hold that in higher regard than u18/u20 (which he also did well in).

I am also starting to think the top 12-15 of this draft is better than many give it credit for.
 
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Is you’re concern the respective players? Or Fitz’s vision?


Isn’t Eiserman a flat out scorer?
Fitz vision is more important of course. How he can learn from his mistake, how he processes the scouting etc. Players can break out or not develop their game.
And players with higher iq often are better in developing.
But of course there are many different types of IQ in the game.

I am also starting to think the top 12-15 of this draft is better than many give it credit for.
yap. This draft class at least in the top of the first round and in the middle of the first round is solid.
 

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Every year ppl say "this is a down year" or "there's a steep drop off after pick 10". It's usually not the case.
Doesnt look like beautiful moms(thanks all the women for this) are stoping to born babies, doesnt look like specialists are taking vacations for one year to stop develop this kids, doesnt look like this kids are stoping to play against older "better" players who were "better generation". Of course we have some years like 2023, but its rare and mostly... Celebrini isnt really less cool as Fantilli. Demidov isnt Bedard or Michkov but he has some very intriguing tools. Lidstrom has potential to be better third overall than third overall Mctavish, defensive generation is freaking huge. A lot of smart two way forwards.
 

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We're winning the lotto. It's in the script.

Just in case someone chooses to throw chaos into the unvierses' plans, what would it take to move up to #3 overall?

I really believe Lindstrom is the guy we need. I wasn't here as a member(active reader) in last year's draft but I really really wanted Slafovsky. We need that big man presence to balance out our Jack Nico Bratt headliners...

Right now we have Timo.... need more.
 
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We're winning the lotto. It's in the script.

Just in case someone chooses to throw chaos into the unvierses' plans, what would it take to move up to #3 overall?

I really believe Lindstrom is the guy we need. I wasn't here as a member(active reader) in last year's draft but I really really wanted Slafovsky. We need that big man presence to balance out our Jack Nico Bratt headliners...

Right now we have Timo.... need more.
Dream case scenario. Healthy Lindstrom would be perfect. May be even more perfect than Slafkovsky. But we need draft lotto magic.
Nygard and Chernyshov are playing some power forward game. Helenius and Iginla are annoying to play against, very active in forecheck, very active in board battles. Its not like we don't have good options if what we need on the draft. They are bpa and need picks in the same time.
 

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Would someone like to take a stab at the percentage chance the following players wind up being selected by the Devils at 10A? I’ll go first.

Helenius- 35%
MBN- 25%
Iginla- 20%
Buium- 15%
Dickinson- 5%

Only a 20% chance of a LD falling to 10OA in my exercise.
 

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Dream case scenario. Healthy Lindstrom would be perfect. May be even more perfect than Slafkovsky. But we need draft lotto magic.
Nygard and Chernyshov are playing some power forward game. Helenius and Iginla are annoying to play against, very active in forecheck, very active in board battles. Its not like we don't have good options if what we need on the draft. They are bpa and need picks in the same time.
I forgot who it was, but someone here has sold me on Nygard... like a lot about him and the potential as both fit and player to expand our compete level.
 

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Not sure if this was posted previously, apologize for duplicate posting if it was

“The lack of clear consensus beyond Celebrini — from No. 2 through to No. 10 and beyond — would be unprecedented. I’ve been doing draft rankings like this one for more than 35 years, and I don’t recall a year where the Top 10 is such a hodgepodge of opinion.”

And I don’t think ranking 2-10 is a mess because the prospects stink, it seems like it’s because they all are strong prospects but with different profiles.
 

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Not sure if this was posted previously, apologize for duplicate posting if it was


The top 7 forwards on that list would be considered below average in height.

Is this just an anomaly this year? Did they not juice the measurements like years past?

I don't remember seeing a distribution like this before.
 

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Would someone like to take a stab at the percentage chance the following players wind up being selected by the Devils at 10A? I’ll go first.

Helenius- 35%
MBN- 25%
Iginla- 20%
Buium- 15%
Dickinson- 5%

Only a 20% chance of a LD falling to 10OA in my exercise.
i dont know anything about these kids but man how can't you like jaromes son at 10? like is he a scoring or play maker
 
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i dont know anything about these kids but man how can't you like jaromes son at 10?
If you know this kids, its not that hard to imagine.

The top 7 forwards on that list would be considered below average in height.

Is this just an anomaly this year? Did they not juice the measurements like years past?

I don't remember seeing a distribution like this before.
Nothing new, Raymond, Rossi, Quinn, Perfetti were players on the smaller side.
 
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Sorry if this has already been discussed, but is there any resource that provides the implied odds after each announced pick?

For example, we start out at 3.5%, but with each team behind us that doesn’t win, our implied odds increase until our name comes up, and similarly, if a team behind us wins before they get to our slot, obviously our odds of picking one spot later increase substantially and our odds of picking #1 or #2 drops.
 

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Would someone like to take a stab at the percentage chance the following players wind up being selected by the Devils at 10A? I’ll go first.

Helenius- 35%
MBN- 25%
Iginla- 20%
Buium- 15%
Dickinson- 5%

Only a 20% chance of a LD falling to 10OA in my exercise.

It’s going to be Helenius just to annoy me personally.
 

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Would someone like to take a stab at the percentage chance the following players wind up being selected by the Devils at 10A? I’ll go first.

Helenius- 35%
MBN- 25%
Iginla- 20%
Buium- 15%
Dickinson- 5%

Only a 20% chance of a LD falling to 10OA in my exercise.
It's definitely less likely than 25 % that the Devils will draft MBN. I know StevenToddIves, Guadana etc are excited about him, but his consensus ranking is lower than TOP 10 pick. I mean Bob even didn't have him in his TOP15 rankings.
 

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It's definitely less likely than 25 % that the Devils will draft MBN. I know StevenToddIves, Guadana etc are excited about him, but his consensus ranking is lower than TOP 10 pick. I mean Bob even didn't have him in his TOP15 rankings.
I never said I'm waiting Nygard as our pick. As Chernyshov. Better player doesn't mean he will be picked by our organisation or by other organisation. For better ir for worse.
If defensemen will not be available than Helenius, Catton or Iginla are looking like more expected Devils picks on paper. Of course if available.

But I still have hopes. I liked Sanderson, Edvinsson, Simashev etc higher than consensus. They were picked higher. But in Devils case Fitz prefer to draft for needs time after time, so it doesnt look like Nygard and Chernyshov are top priorities because they are RW.
 
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2024 Draft Profile:

RW Igor Chernyshov, Moskva Dynamo KHL

Before I begin my assessment of one of my favorite players from the 2024 draft class, I'd like to give credit where it's due and point out that @Guadana has done some really great write-ups of Chernyshov (see page 16 of this thread) and, just as importantly, @Guadana really likes Chernyshov's hair.

That being said, Igor Chernyshov is the perfect two-way, versatile, all-situations power forward to pair with any line-driving forward at the top of your line-up.

What immediately stands out about Chernyshov is how fast and hard he plays every single shift. He is a big kid at 6'2-200 who skates extremely well and features one of the best compete levels I've ever seen from a draft-eligible MHL forward. Though he is not what you would call "proactively" physical -- which is to say he isn't always looking for the big hit or post-whistle scrums -- he is exceptionally effective at using his big, strong frame to win tight puck battles, to function as an absolute terror on the forecheck, to crash creases, and to protect pucks in possession. In a nutshell, this is not a kid who uses strength as an intimidation tactic, but he plays a fast and furious bull-in-a-china-shop style and heaven help you if you are between him and the opposing net.

Chernyshov's entire offensive game is based on getting the puck towards high-danger areas and the opposing net. While many young, skilled forwards spend a lot of their time on the perimeter -- Chernyshov is always trying to funnel everything towards the opposing goal as quickly as possible -- the puck, his own body, and maybe your body too if you're an opposing defender trying to stop him.

Chernyshov is not only extremely fast for a big man, but also features very soft and skilled hands and an astounding deft passing touch. With the combination of his high-end stick-handling and ability to shield weaker defenders with his frame, he possesses an almost uncanny ability to bust open high-danger scoring or set-up chances out of the seemingly narrowest of openings. He is a very smart player on both sides of the puck, and his decision making allows him to extend plays where lower-IQ players would tend to try to force them.

With all of these skills, I must stress again that Chernyshov's stand-out ability is his compete level, which is the highest level of elite I can describe. This kid is so dogged both on and off the puck, it's as if he's never fully off-camera in any film you watch of him. He's just always there wreaking havoc, in all three zones, in space or in tight.

It's also important to re-state that this is a versatile player. I've seen him line up at both wings and even at center -- though we would have to see him more up the middle to assess what his potential at that position might truly be. He is a true 200-foot player who is capable as a net-front grizzly bear on the power play, or on the penalty kill.

I can't state this enough, Igor Chernyshov is a special player. No, he is not an elite-vision Demidov or elite-sniping Eiserman or elite-dangling Catton, but he is skilled and fast enough to play alongside the highest-caliber talent and offers a power/interior element which will open up space for any stars he skates alongside. I have no idea whatsoever why his consensus ranking is somewhere in the #16-20 range when he is clearly always ranked behind players he is generally superior to, though the fact he plays in Russia could have something to do with it.

Igor Chernyshov sits comfortably in my own top 10 rankings, and I have no fear or apprehension in stating this. His complete game and high-end intangibles give him an extremely high floor as an elite NHL 3rd liner, while his complimenting speed and very good skill set gives him a ceiling as a guy putting up great numbers on an NHL 1st line. In some ways I'd compare him to Zach Hyman, a player who has shown the ability to perfectly compliment and get the best out of any high-level center you pair him with. He's sure to be a fan-favorite for whichever organization drafts him.
 
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