HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[le_sean]

They all seem to have some risk except for Iginla.

The risk with Iginla is getting Brendan Gallagher while the others become 80 point players. You’ll never be mad, just slightly disappointed.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Utah willing to move the 6OA

What would you offer?

Is that a hypotetical or did they say that?

 

[Deebs]

Guhle? No team is offering a Top 10 pick for him. They can just trade it for Chychrun.

Chychrun is vastly overrated

 

[SOLR]

Kaiden Guhle



Then we can get out of the draft with Buium(a better LD than Guhle) and Iginla/Sennecke/Catton.

I think it would be a massive organisational leap up front.

What would you offer ReHabs?

Why trade Guhle for Guhle.

 

[Jaynki]

Guhle? No team is offering a Top 10 pick for him. They can just trade it for Chychrun.

Well i know for a fact that Andre Tourigny loves, like absolutely loves Kaiden Guhle.

I also think Guhle > Chychrun but i think you may be right in that we wont get a top 10 pick for him

 

[Kent Nilsson]

Final ranking

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Ivan Demidov
3. Anton Silayev
4. Sam Dickinson
5. Beckett Sennecke
6. Artyom Levshunov
7. Tij Iginla
8. Cayden Lindstrom
9. Zeev Buium
10. Konsta Helenius
11. Berkly Catton
12. Zayne Parekh
13. Carter Yakemchuk
14. Igor Chernyshov
15. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
16. Matvei Shuravin
17. Michael Hage
18. Stian Solberg
19. “Too late for Cole Eiserman” - Cole Eiserman
20. Adam Jiricek
21. Liam Greentree
22. Jett Luchanko
23. Andrew Basha
24. Terik Parascak
25. Cole Hutson
26. John Mustard
27. Nikita Artamonov
28. Sacha Boisvert
29. Ryder Ritchie
30. Yegor Surin
31. Teddy Stiga
32. Sam O’Reilly

 

[SOLR]

Utah willing to move the 6OA

What would you offer?

I don`t think we have anything Utah would want, that we are willing to trade.

They need Slaf or Suzuki or Reinbacher. These are probably our top 3 players we won`t trade.

Caufield is the tradeable asset upfront, but I don`t think the team that has Cooley and Keller will want him.

Then, they might need Dach, but who would trade for him right now?

Guhle I wouid worry if I was them about trading for a number 3 D for a 6th overall that could be a top pairing D. It`s not clear to me Guhle is a top pairing D in his prime.

 

[ReHabs]

I think it would be a massive organisational leap up front.

What would you offer ReHabs?

Yes, going two-for in 5 and 6 makes me feel giddy. If Guhle is enough, then so be it, but if they need to squeeze us for Guhle+Farrell+Kidney+Norlinder… I’d dry my tears and execute the trade all the same.

Jokes aside, maybe they’d accept Guhle+Dvorak(they are familiar with him and knowing he has resell value)+2nd or later pick.

 

[Saundies]

With all this passion over the number 5 pick something tells me whomever we get is in for a rough ride from some of you. Be kind to our newest hab.

I don't know about that.. last year there was a clear need and a potential fit to plug that need (this isn't a MM vs. Reinbacher thread or anything like that so let's not rehash it) so I think that's where a lot of vitriol came from. I didn't like the pick but I certainly didn't go on social media lambasting anyone/David Reinbacher or his family (who does that though, seriously?).

This year there's really no consensus so I don't see it being as strong or hateful. I could be wrong obviously and maybe it's worse since there's so many choices that you're bound to get people who hate the pick but.. even as a "Forward at all costs" kind of poster, I can still see the good side in drafting any of the top D as well and actually really like some of them.

We'll see I guess.

 

[SOLR]

Final ranking

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Ivan Demidov
3. Anton Silayev
4. Sam Dickinson
5. Beckett Sennecke
6. Artyom Levshunov
7. Tij Iginla
8. Cayden Lindstrom
9. Zeev Buium
10. Konsta Helenius
11. Berkly Catton
12. Zayne Parekh
13. Carter Yakemchuk
14. Igor Chernyshov
15. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
16. Matvei Shuravin
17. Michael Hage
18. Stian Solberg
19. “Too late for Cole Eiserman” - Cole Eiserman
20. Adam Jiricek
21. Liam Greentree
22. Jett Luchanko
23. Andrew Basha
24. Terik Parascak
25. Cole Hutson
26. John Mustard
27. Nikita Artamonov
28. Sacha Boisvert
29. Ryder Ritchie
30. Yegor Surin
31. Teddy Stiga
32. Sam O’Reilly

If Boisvert is there at 28, I`m keeping 26.

 

[ReHabs]

Is that a hypotetical or did they say that?

Saw it as a headline just now

 

[sampollock]

Is it a worry that in the MHL he plays way fewer games then in the OHL or does the points speak for themselves .

18-year-old Ivan Demidov has been nothing short of sensational in the MHL this year, racking up an impressive total of 23 goals and 37 assists (60 points) in just 30 games. He was also very productive in the playoffs, with 28 points, including 11 goals, in 17 games.

 

[Sorinth]

Is it a worry that in the MHL he plays way fewer games then in the OHL or does the points speak for themselves .

18-year-old Ivan Demidov has been nothing short of sensational in the MHL this year, racking up an impressive total of 23 goals and 37 assists (60 points) in just 30 games. He was also very productive in the playoffs, with 28 points, including 11 goals, in 17 games.

MHL teams play 52 games a season which isn't that much different from the OHL. Demidov only played 30 because he spent some time in the KHL, VHL, and was injured for part of the season.

 

[SOLR]

If Utah trades that pick it`s for an established physical D. Wouldn`t be too surprised to see Edmonton in that mix around Nurse+.

 

[David Suzuki]

If Utah trades that pick it`s for an established physical D. Wouldn`t be too surprised to see Edmonton in that mix around Nurse+.

Nurse +McDavid might get it done

 

[SOLR]

Nurse +McDavid might get it done

Haha, I think more teams would want Nurse than you think. Particularly teams struggling to find this type of guy back there in the now.. It`s not that he`s great, it`s more than his archetype/age group mix is very rare right now.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Demidov is a small injured Russian with no record either internationally (not his fault), or professionally (somewhat his fault). The profile caries some risk.

Demidov is not small lol

More like P Kane to me. Demidov has to improve his one timer to be as effective as Kucherov. How many goals does Kucherov score with that deadly and accurate one timer? I don't think Demidov's shot is that accurate yet and I'm not talking about the one timer. He's shooting right side a lot and scoring a lot but I like Iggy's shot more. He's picking all different areas of the net. Iggy doesn't have a good one timer either though. It's difficult to develop at that high level. Game happens so fast.

We shouldn't be tied to comparing Demidov to another Russian. If that is the requirement, I would pick Datsyuk. The interesting part to the Russian forward stars is I will say 75% of them are north of 6'-0" and 200 lbs. Then you got guys like Kucherov and Datsyuk who are on the lighter side. So basically, Demidov falls in that 25% lighter but skilled/skater type.

So yeah, P Kane or Datysuk are my ceiling comparables



Long few weeks coming. This draft has me both nervous and excited. We need to hit with this pick.

I don't know how you could possibly come to this conclusion after having watched him

 

[Team_Spirit]

Is that a hypotetical or did they say that?

iirc 6, 10 and 11ov are all on the market for win-now trades

 

[SwiftyHab]

iirc 6, 10 and 11ov are all on the market for win-now trades

I don’t see anyone we’re willing to get rid of that bags us any of those picks

 

[Deebs]

Haha, I think more teams would want Nurse than you think. Particularly teams struggling to find this type of guy back there in the now.. It`s not that he`s great, it`s more than his archetype/age group mix is very rare right now.

Nurse at $9.25M for another 5 years is not a good thing. Not sure how or why teams would take that contract on. IMO of course

 

[Nevins]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803043226904899877

 

[Kents polished head]

Funny because if you replace Barkocs with Suzuki I'd completely agree. Nick is an amazing player that is mostly dragged down by terrible team around him.

Ah totally agreed. Suzuki in underrated as well, in the sense that he's certainly more than the "60 points C" he's being evaluated as around the league by most fans.

That being said, I also happen to believe Barkov's defensive game is miles ahead, and probably in the same league as Bergeron's. I see Suzuki more as a Krejci kind of guy.

The other night (I think it was game 3) against the Oilers, he took a draw in the defensive zone with an empty net at the other end. He just tried to score right after winning the draw. He couldn't hit the net so it was an icing call.

He didn't even break a sweat and neither did Maurice because he knew that he was going to win the next draw/kill the remaining time. And that's exactly what he did.

I don't think there's a center in the whole league who's quite at this level in terms of bringing a full package of size, defensive play, offensive abilities and making his teammates better. He's a special breed.

 

[SOLR]

@Habs Halifax


Current technique on the one-timer is not awful, also at 10:15, 11:25, all showing more than just the movement but intent to hit a high target, doing so.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

There were darker days before Berg.

MT... well obviously Price was a factor, but he won a lot of games.

He sold high on Subban, acquired a cornerstone player in #14, and made the right pick at #3..at the time.

He shafted Markov.

They call him BargainBin for a reason... never wanted to pay full for Price.

He had his faults forsure, but I'll take him over Pierre Gauthier everyday of the week.

We were terrible from the late 90s to the 2000s. So yeah, they were darker days.

But in 2013 we had a great young core and a 3rd overall. If we hired even a decent GM we’d have become legit contenders. Instead… we squandered a great young core. THAT is far more tragic than just being a brutal team.

This regime has chosen a direction, is miles above at development, seems to be drafting extremely well… what’s not to like?

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I don't know about that.. last year there was a clear need and a potential fit to plug that need (this isn't a MM vs. Reinbacher thread or anything like that so let's not rehash it) so I think that's where a lot of vitriol came from. I didn't like the pick but I certainly didn't go on social media lambasting anyone/David Reinbacher or his family (who does that though, seriously?).

This year there's really no consensus so I don't see it being as strong or hateful. I could be wrong obviously and maybe it's worse since there's so many choices that you're bound to get people who hate the pick but.. even as a "Forward at all costs" kind of poster, I can still see the good side in drafting any of the top D as well and actually really like some of them.

We'll see I guess.

Feels like the local media has been pretty universal in hammering home the notion that we're absolutely picking a forward this time, so I do expect a bit of a backlash if we go with a Dman again. It probably won't be red hot, but there's definitely going to be some heat if they go that way.