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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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CHwest said:
With all this passion over the number 5 pick something tells me whomever we get is in for a rough ride from some of you. Be kind to our newest hab.
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No one will get it worse than Reinbacher.. we knew for weeks they weren't taking Michkov but it didn't stop the pieces of shit from being humongous pieces of shit toward an 18 year old kid living out his dream.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
No one will get it worse than Reinbacher.. we knew for weeks they weren't taking Michkov but it didn't stop the pieces of shit from being humongous pieces of shit toward an 18 year old kid living out his dream.
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It's really lucky for us that Reinbacher is a grounded, solid between the ears kid. He managed to power through that and the future looks really bright for him now. A more vulnerable type would have crashed and burned, maybe even worst. People don't realize how bad anxiety can be on a teenager like that :help: I can only hope the fandom as a whole got a bit of a lesson from the whole experience.
 
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Habs Halifax said:
As the years go by and we learn more (as pretender scouts), I realize that those D+ years are massive. You hear it from all the stars when they talk about the commitment to improving. Ability to overcome challenges along the way. When I look at a player like Iginla, I think that he is that type. Always wanting to improve and become better than others. I'm not sure with Demidov but he's high on my list regardless.
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This is something I'm realizing as well. There's so much behind improving at the NHL level, it takes effort and dedication. You need to draft players with the right outlook, that aren't willing to sit on their strengths and ignore their weaknesses. It's why I like how much importance Habs management is putting on personality and character when selecting players to draft.
 
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Habs Halifax said:
I only brought up the one timer due to the Kucherov comparable. It's not easy to develop that so that's why I said Kane/Datsyuk.

Someone else said Demidov's skating was OK but not great. First time I have heard this from anyone. I find his skating top notch.
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He can improve his 3 step and top speed for sure. He`s fast and agile in 1, 2 steps situation. Might just be a muscle thing.
 
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TCIH said:
This is something I'm realizing as well. There's so much behind improving at the NHL level, it takes effort and dedication. You need to draft players with the right outlook, that aren't willing to sit on their strengths and ignore their weaknesses. It's why I like how much importance Habs management is putting on personality and character when selecting players to draft.
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Look no further than Drouin and Yakupov. Very skilled with good skating but didn't improve since their draft year. Players with this kind of talent have an easy road in development leagues and they are shell shocked when they turn pro. Time and space is reduced and there are loads of big guys that skate well. Not many players to take advantage of as there is in development leagues. For every hit you can find, there are 3+ misses. It's a difficult job to scout and project development forward for kids at age 17/18.

Obsessive to improve is a huge development ingredient. The team can only do so much to facilitate their development. It's up to the player to put the work in. So yeah, if you want to be a pretend scout, try to find the guy that has the best D+ development. When I look at this group from 2-13, I see loads of good players. But then you wonder, it's not about who they are today, it's about who they become from age 18-23 and if they put the work in or not. Sometimes, a player thinks he's training hard but the question I would ask... is it considered work or do they enjoy it? The ones who are rink and gym rats are the ones who turn out well.

Look at the 2018 draft. Lots of people liked Zadina, Boqvist, Wahlstrom, KK, Hayton. Then you got the hits with Tkachuk, Hughes, Bouchard, Dobson. 3-12 in that draft reminds me of 2-14 in this draft. So many players to like but what will be the bust %? Will it be 25% or less or close to 50%? There is going to be some busts in this 2-14 range.... just hard to cherry pick them today.
 
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le_sean said:
Guhle? No team is offering a Top 10 pick for him. They can just trade it for Chychrun.
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Well i know for a fact that Andre Tourigny loves, like absolutely loves Kaiden Guhle.

I also think Guhle > Chychrun but i think you may be right in that we wont get a top 10 pick for him
 
Final ranking

  1. Macklin Celebrini
  2. Ivan Demidov
  3. Anton Silayev
  4. Sam Dickinson
  5. Beckett Sennecke
  6. Artyom Levshunov
  7. Tij Iginla
  8. Cayden Lindstrom
  9. Zeev Buium
  10. Konsta Helenius
  11. Berkly Catton
  12. Zayne Parekh
  13. Carter Yakemchuk
  14. Igor Chernyshov
  15. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
  16. Matvei Shuravin
  17. Michael Hage
  18. Stian Solberg
  19. “Too late for Cole Eiserman” - Cole Eiserman
  20. Adam Jiricek
  21. Liam Greentree
  22. Jett Luchanko
  23. Andrew Basha
  24. Terik Parascak
  25. Cole Hutson
  26. John Mustard
  27. Nikita Artamonov
  28. Sacha Boisvert
  29. Ryder Ritchie
  30. Yegor Surin
  31. Teddy Stiga
  32. Sam O’Reilly
 
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ReHabs said:
Utah willing to move the 6OA

What would you offer?
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I don`t think we have anything Utah would want, that we are willing to trade.

They need Slaf or Suzuki or Reinbacher. These are probably our top 3 players we won`t trade.

Caufield is the tradeable asset upfront, but I don`t think the team that has Cooley and Keller will want him.

Then, they might need Dach, but who would trade for him right now?

Guhle I wouid worry if I was them about trading for a number 3 D for a 6th overall that could be a top pairing D. It`s not clear to me Guhle is a top pairing D in his prime.
 
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Jaynki said:
I think it would be a massive organisational leap up front.

What would you offer ReHabs?
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Yes, going two-for in 5 and 6 makes me feel giddy. If Guhle is enough, then so be it, but if they need to squeeze us for Guhle+Farrell+Kidney+Norlinder… I’d dry my tears and execute the trade all the same.

Jokes aside, maybe they’d accept Guhle+Dvorak(they are familiar with him and knowing he has resell value)+2nd or later pick.
 
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CHwest said:
With all this passion over the number 5 pick something tells me whomever we get is in for a rough ride from some of you. Be kind to our newest hab.
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I don't know about that.. last year there was a clear need and a potential fit to plug that need (this isn't a MM vs. Reinbacher thread or anything like that so let's not rehash it) so I think that's where a lot of vitriol came from. I didn't like the pick but I certainly didn't go on social media lambasting anyone/David Reinbacher or his family (who does that though, seriously?).

This year there's really no consensus so I don't see it being as strong or hateful. I could be wrong obviously and maybe it's worse since there's so many choices that you're bound to get people who hate the pick but.. even as a "Forward at all costs" kind of poster, I can still see the good side in drafting any of the top D as well and actually really like some of them.

We'll see I guess.
 
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Final ranking

  1. Macklin Celebrini
  2. Ivan Demidov
  3. Anton Silayev
  4. Sam Dickinson
  5. Beckett Sennecke
  6. Artyom Levshunov
  7. Tij Iginla
  8. Cayden Lindstrom
  9. Zeev Buium
  10. Konsta Helenius
  11. Berkly Catton
  12. Zayne Parekh
  13. Carter Yakemchuk
  14. Igor Chernyshov
  15. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
  16. Matvei Shuravin
  17. Michael Hage
  18. Stian Solberg
  19. “Too late for Cole Eiserman” - Cole Eiserman
  20. Adam Jiricek
  21. Liam Greentree
  22. Jett Luchanko
  23. Andrew Basha
  24. Terik Parascak
  25. Cole Hutson
  26. John Mustard
  27. Nikita Artamonov
  28. Sacha Boisvert
  29. Ryder Ritchie
  30. Yegor Surin
  31. Teddy Stiga
  32. Sam O’Reilly
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If Boisvert is there at 28, I`m keeping 26.
 
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Is it a worry that in the MHL he plays way fewer games then in the OHL or does the points speak for themselves .

18-year-old Ivan Demidov has been nothing short of sensational in the MHL this year, racking up an impressive total of 23 goals and 37 assists (60 points) in just 30 games. He was also very productive in the playoffs, with 28 points, including 11 goals, in 17 games.
 
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Is it a worry that in the MHL he plays way fewer games then in the OHL or does the points speak for themselves .

18-year-old Ivan Demidov has been nothing short of sensational in the MHL this year, racking up an impressive total of 23 goals and 37 assists (60 points) in just 30 games. He was also very productive in the playoffs, with 28 points, including 11 goals, in 17 games.
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MHL teams play 52 games a season which isn't that much different from the OHL. Demidov only played 30 because he spent some time in the KHL, VHL, and was injured for part of the season.
 
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