HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Andrei79]

This year a little different though as picks 2 to 6 look interchangeable and same can be said 7 to 12….it’s almost like an NFL draft as you are picking for need in those slots

It might mean about the same thing, but I see it more as drafting for "fit". I mean, all of these teams in the top 5 have needs basically everywhere. Anaheim as forward depth, but if you project their roster a lot of different Ds and Lindstrom would fit. Aside from Celebrini, I don't find the players 2-6 seperate themselves enough to say definitively who will be better. So you have to look at their compete, personality, fit roster wise within the team according to the style management wants as well as the U25 core and what the strength of the development teams of each franchise are to know if they can properly work with the player.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It's so hard to make these trades in hockey. We might have a better chance to trade with Chicago for #2 unless they want Silayev.

Has a top 5 pick moved pre-draft since the Penguins traded with Florida to move up two spots and draft Fleury at #1? That was 21 years ago.

Yes, I very much doubt it will happen.. you still gotta try but I expect us to be picking 5.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Yes, I very much doubt it will happen.. you still gotta try but I expect us to be picking 5.

The tough thing with trades is that there really is no telling what a guy will go for. Like, what do we know about Necas' asking price?

 

[Doublechin]

Yes, I very much doubt it will happen.. you still gotta try but I expect us to be picking 5.

To be fair

The narrative is different, for a while now, we've been hearing how it's free for all at 2 and how teams will have different lists, I think that opens up the possibilities to trade up, there's no consensus top 3 this year.

For some it's Celebrini, Lev, Silya for others Mack, Demidov and Lindstrom

For some it might be Mack, Dickinson and Buium

I think, if they love Lindstrom, the Ducks are the target team assuming they like Silyaev as much as another D, Dickinson, Buium etc

I do see a possibility where Anaheim might have 2 or 3 of these guys as close to each other as it gets and in such a scenario, a trade can be made with ease.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The tough thing with trades is that there really is no telling what a guy will go for. Like, what do we know about Necas' asking price?

Apparently they want a 'star' coming back.. I don't think they'll get that.

To be fair

The narrative is different, for a while now, we've been hearing how it's free for all at 2 and how teams will have different lists, I think that opens up the possibilities to trade up, there's no consensus top 3 this year.

For some it's Celebrini, Lev, Silya for others Mack, Demidov and Lindstrom

For some it might be Mack, Dickinson and Buium

I think, if they love Lindstrom, the Ducks are the target team assuming they like Silyaev as much as another D, Dickinson, Buium etc

I do see a possibility where Anaheim might have 2 or 3 of these guys as close to each other as it gets and in such a scenario, a trade can be made with ease.

If there's a year it's more likely to happen, it's this one.. I still just am not sure it can be done, Anaheim and CBJ are both teams that have been rebuilding for awhile, so they might be ensuring they get their 'fit'.

 

[Andrei79]

@NotProkofievian


Why no Demidov ?

 

[Hacketts]

Apparently they want a 'star' coming back.. I don't think they'll get that.



If there's a year it's more likely to happen, it's this one.. I still just am not sure it can be done, Anaheim and CBJ are both teams that have been rebuilding for awhile, so they might be ensuring they get their 'fit'.

The return of this trade will be interesting, because Dundon and his ego will be all over this. Gotta feeling that this is going to be a painful process for any team having to deal with the Hurricanes.

Any trade involving us and Carolina will have some extra baggage, regardless if the drama was with Berg.

 

[FrankMTL]

We're all on the Lindstrom train at the moment, but next week, word will come out of the Russian combine in Florida that Demidov can crack walnuts with his ass cheeks while riding a bike with no hands and we will flip back to wanting Demidov. But then we will find out that Pronman thinks Kyle Davidson likes Russian caviar and we will freak out that he's going to be picked 2nd overall.

 

[sampollock]

We're all on the Lindstrom train at the moment, but next week, word will come out of the Russian combine in Florida that Demidov can crack walnuts with his ass cheeks while riding a bike with no hands and we will flip back to wanting Demidov. But then we will find out that Pronman thinks Kyle Davidson likes Russian caviar and we will freak out that he's going to be picked 2nd overall.

YUP that is how it goes alright

 

[Habssince89]

Chicago holds our fate. Please let them take a D

 

[NotProkofievian]

@NotProkofievian


Why no Demidov ?

I like Iginla, probably too much. But I'm sticking with him.

 

[SOLR]

I like Iginla, probably too much. But I'm sticking with him.

I have Iginla ahead of Lindstrom

Demidov
Iginla
Lindstrom

The reason I have Iginla ahead of Lindstrom, is that I think Iginla has more development ahead of him. Lindstrom is better right now, but I think Iginla will be much better at 25.

 

[sampollock]

Chicago holds our fate. Please let them take a D

YES and they need a D man let's hope

 

[NotProkofievian]

I have Iginla ahead of Lindstrom

Demidov
Iginla
Lindstrom

The reason I have Iginla ahead of Lindstrom, is that I think Iginla has more development ahead of him. Lindstrom is better right now, but I think Iginla will be much better at 25.

Iginla ahead of Macklin. Let's gooooooo!

 

[SOLR]

Iginla ahead of Macklin. Let's gooooooo!

YOU WENT FULL IGINLA

You should never go full Iginla.

 

[MM425]

On the concerns that Demidov might get buried by his Russian club…

Perhaps I am naive but can’t these things be handled through back channels? If Demidov doesn’t want to sign with SKA, could they not be persuaded to release him? As this is reportedly happening with Michkov and the Flyers?

Surely a well resourced team like the Habs can work something out.

 

[WeThreeKings]

On the concerns that Demidov might get buried by his Russian club…

Perhaps I am naive but can’t these things be handled through back channels? If Demidov doesn’t want to sign with SKA, could they not be persuaded to release him? As this is reportedly happening with Michkov and the Flyers?

Surely a well resourced team like the Habs can work something out.

Thats the hope but the rumors about SKA and Michkov is more that there's something about the individual and him not cracking their team 2 years in a row that they are willing to move on where they hold Demidov in higher esteem and want to keep him for longer.

I hope that if we do select him that Bobrov being our co director of scouting and his dad being well regarded in Russia, and Montreal having a bit of a historic significance in the country of Russia that they might actually be willing to handle Demidov for us more favorably.

 

[skidcells]

Thats the hope but the rumors about SKA and Michkov is more that there's something about the individual and him not cracking their team 2 years in a row that they are willing to move on where they hold Demidov in higher esteem and want to keep him for longer.

I hope that if we do select him that Bobrov being our co director of scouting and his dad being well regarded in Russia, and Montreal having a bit of a historic significance in the country of Russia that they might actually be willing to handle Demidov for us more favorably.

You/we can get what we want. We (Molson) has to pay for it though. That’s how things work in Russia.

 

[WeThreeKings]

You/we can get what we want. We (Molson) has to pay for it though. That’s how things work in Russia.

We can't that's not allowed. Philly can't pay for Michkov either.

 

[The Last Red]

Thats the hope but the rumors about SKA and Michkov is more that there's something about the individual and him not cracking their team 2 years in a row that they are willing to move on where they hold Demidov in higher esteem and want to keep him for longer.

I hope that if we do select him that Bobrov being our co director of scouting and his dad being well regarded in Russia, and Montreal having a bit of a historic significance in the country of Russia that they might actually be willing to handle Demidov for us more favorably.

Hope is not a good plan usually. Just saying.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Hope is not a good plan usually. Just saying.

Unfortunately I can't call SKA and do anything about it.

 

[NotProkofievian]

We can't that's not allowed. Philly can't pay for Michkov either.

All kinds of stuff is not allowed.

 

[FrankMTL]

We can't that's not allowed. Philly can't pay for Michkov either.

How much is Demidov making with SKA St Petersburg, 50k a year? I mean that's nothing to buy out. I always find large sums of money in well hidden briefcases...

 

[WeThreeKings]

(Mod)

How much is Demidov making with SKA St Petersburg, 50k a year? I mean that's nothing to buy out. I always find large sums of money in well hidden briefcases...

I'm not sure but it's gotta be the players own money and BOTH parties have to agree to the buy out.

 

[Naslund]

And Verbeek was Stevie Y's right hand man in Detroit when they drafted Seider. I remember many posters in here ridiculing the pick.

I loved Seider back in 2019, and badly wanted him with our pick. I kept arguing with posters that thought we were set with Juulsen, Brook and Fleury as RD, so no need for Seider. Good times!

Not that I have not been wrong in the past on other favorites of mine. I remember being ecstatic for A. Kostitsyn, and I thought J. Ikonen was the steal of the decade.