HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[WeThreeKings]

Habs should call Anaheim and see if they ready to drop 2 spots and still get their defenceman….if Habs are convinced Lindstrom is their player, make it happen!

I think they will - I guess Anaheims concern would be if they covet Silayev that CBJ has stated interest in him as well.

If I remember correctly, you wanted the Finn player that went to Nashville didn’t you…

I wanted Chytil but he was gone.. I just didn't really like Poehling, not sure who I was specifically wanting at that time but I did like Tolvanen.

 

[Kents polished head]

Count on me. Im already f***ing mad. Imagine what i’ll be in 3 weeks after marinating in my frustration towards that stupid organisation.

Timmins was here for 20 f***ing years and never drafted a centerman and he’ll pick the second best one right in front of us. f*** him

I also don't expect Lindstrom to make it to us, but don't underestimate Timmins' ability to out-4D-chess himself on a high pick.

We've been there often enough to know there's a healthy chance of that happening.

 

[CapSpace]

Don't forget that Timmins got a premium centerman in Fantilli last year...

f*** him.

 

[ginomini]

Congrats to 2024 Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins! Adding a 100 point defenceman was really the key missing piece to get this consistent playoff team over the hump. Good for them

I’ve acknowledged players that can do both. Far more valuable than one that does offence better but leaves a lot to be desired defensively. Karlsson can’t do both.

This is just a ridiculous example. The Penguins were simply a bad team. They were a bubble team Karlsson or not.

 

[jaffy27]

I think they will - I guess Anaheims concern would be if they covet Silayev that CBJ has stated interest in him as well.



I wanted Chytil but he was gone.. I just didn't really like Poehling, not sure who I was specifically wanting at that time but I did like Tolvanen.

If they Like Silayev, you’d think they’d also like Dickinson, got the size and mobility….they’d be assured of one or the other….think the compensation to swap picks would have to include a defenceman (Engstrom/Struble/Barron) and a 2025 2nd rounder.

Tolvanen was the one you pushed for, seems you were right as he turned out better the Poehling.

Obviously Chytil was long gone to NYR as we were picking 25th I believe?

 

[le_sean]

This is just a ridiculous example. The Penguins were simply a bad team. They were a bubble team Karlsson or not.

They made the playoffs like 15 straight years. They added him and turned to garbage.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If they Like Silayev, you’d think they’d also like Dickinson, got the size and mobility….they’d be assured of one or the other….think the compensation to swap picks would have to include a defenceman (Engstrom/Struble/Barron) and a 2025 2nd rounder.

Tolvanen was the one you pushed for, seems you were right as he turned out better the Poehling.

Obviously Chytil was long gone to NYR as we were picking 25th I believe?

Yeah Chytil went ahead of us and I was sour about it.. then we doubled down on low upside Poehling. Tolvanen isn't anything exceptional either, the real miss was Jason Robertson but I wasn't on him so I don't blame them for that.

 

[Schooner Guy]

I think they will - I guess Anaheims concern would be if they covet Silayev that CBJ has stated interest in him as well.



I wanted Chytil but he was gone.. I just didn't really like Poehling, not sure who I was specifically wanting at that time but I did like Tolvanen.

It's so hard to make these trades in hockey. We might have a better chance to trade with Chicago for #2 unless they want Silayev.

Has a top 5 pick moved pre-draft since the Penguins traded with Florida to move up two spots and draft Fleury at #1? That was 21 years ago.

 

[jaffy27]

They made the playoffs like 15 straight years. They added him and turned to garbage.

So they didn’t make the playoffs because of Karlsson?

 

[le_sean]

There’s not going to be a trade up. Kent will just wait and take whoever is there at 5. Those trades rarely ever happen.

 

[Andrei79]

So they didn’t make the playoffs because of Karlsson?

Yeah, it doesn't make sense. They've been on a natural decline for years now and already missed last year. They dropped the ball at the end and Florida managed to sneak in with the results we know too well.

 

[jaffy27]

It's so hard to make these trades in hockey. We might have a better chance to trade with Chicago for #2 unless they want Silayev.

Has a top 5 pick moved pre-draft since the Penguins traded with Florida to move up two spots and draft Fleury at #1? That was 21 years ago.

This year a little different though as picks 2 to 6 look interchangeable and same can be said 7 to 12….it’s almost like an NFL draft as you are picking for need in those slots

 

[Andrei79]

With everything that's coming out about Lindstroms good character and performance in off ice training, I don't see how he'll be available at 5. I've accepted that. He's a natural fit for CB. Demidov seems more and more likely.

 

[Schooner Guy]

This year a little different though as picks 2 to 6 look interchangeable and same can be said 7 to 12….it’s almost like an NFL draft as you are picking for need in those slots

Agreed but there are 40-some different positions to fill in the NFL and several of the most important positions don't even require handling the ball so BPA rarely applies. In hockey, centers, wingers and dmen all have to be able to skate and handle the puck.

It would be great to see some trades on draft day but they don't seem to happen anymore. One will happen sometime. Maybe this year.

 

[Andrei79]

This year a little different though as picks 2 to 6 look interchangeable and same can be said 7 to 12….it’s almost like an NFL draft as you are picking for need in those slots

It might mean about the same thing, but I see it more as drafting for "fit". I mean, all of these teams in the top 5 have needs basically everywhere. Anaheim as forward depth, but if you project their roster a lot of different Ds and Lindstrom would fit. Aside from Celebrini, I don't find the players 2-6 seperate themselves enough to say definitively who will be better. So you have to look at their compete, personality, fit roster wise within the team according to the style management wants as well as the U25 core and what the strength of the development teams of each franchise are to know if they can properly work with the player.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It's so hard to make these trades in hockey. We might have a better chance to trade with Chicago for #2 unless they want Silayev.

Has a top 5 pick moved pre-draft since the Penguins traded with Florida to move up two spots and draft Fleury at #1? That was 21 years ago.

Yes, I very much doubt it will happen.. you still gotta try but I expect us to be picking 5.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Yes, I very much doubt it will happen.. you still gotta try but I expect us to be picking 5.

The tough thing with trades is that there really is no telling what a guy will go for. Like, what do we know about Necas' asking price?

 

[Doublechin]

Yes, I very much doubt it will happen.. you still gotta try but I expect us to be picking 5.

To be fair

The narrative is different, for a while now, we've been hearing how it's free for all at 2 and how teams will have different lists, I think that opens up the possibilities to trade up, there's no consensus top 3 this year.

For some it's Celebrini, Lev, Silya for others Mack, Demidov and Lindstrom

For some it might be Mack, Dickinson and Buium

I think, if they love Lindstrom, the Ducks are the target team assuming they like Silyaev as much as another D, Dickinson, Buium etc

I do see a possibility where Anaheim might have 2 or 3 of these guys as close to each other as it gets and in such a scenario, a trade can be made with ease.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The tough thing with trades is that there really is no telling what a guy will go for. Like, what do we know about Necas' asking price?

Apparently they want a 'star' coming back.. I don't think they'll get that.

To be fair

The narrative is different, for a while now, we've been hearing how it's free for all at 2 and how teams will have different lists, I think that opens up the possibilities to trade up, there's no consensus top 3 this year.

For some it's Celebrini, Lev, Silya for others Mack, Demidov and Lindstrom

For some it might be Mack, Dickinson and Buium

I think, if they love Lindstrom, the Ducks are the target team assuming they like Silyaev as much as another D, Dickinson, Buium etc

I do see a possibility where Anaheim might have 2 or 3 of these guys as close to each other as it gets and in such a scenario, a trade can be made with ease.

If there's a year it's more likely to happen, it's this one.. I still just am not sure it can be done, Anaheim and CBJ are both teams that have been rebuilding for awhile, so they might be ensuring they get their 'fit'.

 

[Andrei79]

@NotProkofievian


Why no Demidov ?

 

[Hacketts]

Apparently they want a 'star' coming back.. I don't think they'll get that.



If there's a year it's more likely to happen, it's this one.. I still just am not sure it can be done, Anaheim and CBJ are both teams that have been rebuilding for awhile, so they might be ensuring they get their 'fit'.

The return of this trade will be interesting, because Dundon and his ego will be all over this. Gotta feeling that this is going to be a painful process for any team having to deal with the Hurricanes.

Any trade involving us and Carolina will have some extra baggage, regardless if the drama was with Berg.

 

[FrankMTL]

We're all on the Lindstrom train at the moment, but next week, word will come out of the Russian combine in Florida that Demidov can crack walnuts with his ass cheeks while riding a bike with no hands and we will flip back to wanting Demidov. But then we will find out that Pronman thinks Kyle Davidson likes Russian caviar and we will freak out that he's going to be picked 2nd overall.

 

[sampollock]

We're all on the Lindstrom train at the moment, but next week, word will come out of the Russian combine in Florida that Demidov can crack walnuts with his ass cheeks while riding a bike with no hands and we will flip back to wanting Demidov. But then we will find out that Pronman thinks Kyle Davidson likes Russian caviar and we will freak out that he's going to be picked 2nd overall.

YUP that is how it goes alright

 

[Habssince89]

Chicago holds our fate. Please let them take a D

 

[NotProkofievian]

@NotProkofievian


Why no Demidov ?

I like Iginla, probably too much. But I'm sticking with him.