HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[le_sean]

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To me he’s shown more of a willingness to come to NA than Michkov did. The issue is that potential lost year of development since his team might try and be petty with him.

 

[JoelWarlord]

How many dinners can these kids eat. I swear every team is taking the entire first round out for dinner lmao

 

[sampollock]

He is talking about Trevor Connelly. During the U18 finals (USA vs Canada), Team USA was leading 3-2 with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd period. Connelly took a 5-minute major penalty and was booted out of the game. Canada scored 3 goals during that PP. That won Canada the gold medal.​

crazy

to be fair with Pierre he did say hed draft Brady instead of KK but all moot after Carey Price meltdown

so did many of us

 

[Jaynki]

Can Demidov buy out the last year of his contract?

 

[The Last Red]

One thing that surprised me is how Sennecke isn’t at all considered at 5. I find his overall package (skills + size) to be the most unique of the draft. Sure, there are question marks on some things like all prospects but his absolute ceiling may be the highest in the draft if he puts it all together. I’d think they would be bet on Adam Nicholas being able to get him there. Oh well, I’ll get over it I guess.

The bolded part is the problem for a guy you're drafting at 5OA. Cannot afford to screw this up. Iginla is a much safer pick at 5, and will likely be a very good top 6 forward also even if his "in a perfect world" ceiling is a bit lower than Sennecke's. We don't inhabit a perfect world.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

To me he’s shown more of a willingness to come to NA than Michkov did. The issue is that potential lost year of development since his team might try and be petty with him.

Russian SKA Factor

 

[le_sean]

Russian SKA Factor

I prefer the Ska factor when it’s simply listening to Less Than Jake

 

[ReHabs]

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Demidov will go top10 and his team will be pleased with him. The issue he has is there are a lot of diversely interesting prospects in the top10.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I prefer the Ska factor when it’s simply listening to Less Than Jake

No love for the cherry poppin daddies ?

 

[Jaynki]

Why is there a Russian factor with Demidov, but not with Silayev?

 

[Saundies]

Do not listen to the heretics!

Priests of other prospects will whisper "russian factor", "complicated geopolitical situation" and "performed well in a weaker league" into your ears, but do not let it enter your heart!

Keep the faith in the one and only Demigod! Praise be to all who keep the faith!

 

[pylero]

More smoke to the Lindstrom going 3-4 fire, and Buium + Silayev mentionned as intriguing defensemen for Montreal. Eiserman also had dinner with Hughes and co.

Analyse | Le Canadien a encore des interrogations en vue du repêchage

Le Canadien a peut-être plus de chances de repêcher Ivan Demidov qu’on ne le croyait au départ alors que nous avons l'impression inverse avec Cayden Lindstrom.

ici.radio-canada.ca

 

[WeThreeKings]

Why is there a Russian factor with Demidov, but not with Silayev?

It's the CSKA factor.

Silayev is with torpedo, signed for a bit more term but expected to come over when it ends and Larionov is a good contact, people are comfortable with him.

They're more worried that CSKA either pressures Demidov into a longer term deal, especially with his brothers there, and with no ability to loan him out they could kill another year of his development by putting him back in the MHL with no recourse.

 

[le_sean]

Why is there a Russian factor with Demidov, but not with Silayev?

Because Silayev’s organization has shown a willingness to play and develop him. His coach is Igor Larionov who seems to appreciate young players. Silayev has a contract for two more years and he needs the time to develop.

Demidov has been unwilling to sign a new contract with SKA. They have kept him down in a league way too easy for him to be petty. They might do the same thing next season which would be a wasted year.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Because Silayev’s organization has shown a willingness to play and develop him. His coach is Igor Larionov who seems to appreciate young players. Silayev has a contract for two more years and he needs the time to develop.

Demidov has been unwilling to sign a new contract with SKA. They have kept him down in a league way too easy for him to be petty. They might do the same thing next season which would be a wasted year.

I hope if we pick him that with Bobrov's contacts in Russia and the fact Montreal has some reverence in Russia, that they might treat him a bit differently.

That's my hopium, at least.

Man if we got Demidov at 5, what a dream it would be.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

2024 NHL Draft Rankings - HockeyProspect.com

HockeyProspect.com has produced NHL Draft Rankings for eligible draft prospects for the NHL Draft since 2004.

hockeyprospect.com

Hockey prospect's most recent list is just out.

 

[le_sean]

I hope if we pick him that with Bobrov's contacts in Russia and the fact Montreal has some reverence in Russia, that they might treat him a bit differently.

That's my hopium, at least.

Man if we got Demidov at 5, what a dream it would be.

You just never know with this state-owned team and what they might try to prove. I hope it’s a non-factor. It hasn’t been until this moment.

 

[Jaynki]

It's the CSKA factor.

Silayev is with torpedo, signed for a bit more term but expected to come over when it ends and Larionov is a good contact, people are comfortable with him.

They're more worried that CSKA either pressures Demidov into a longer term deal, especially with his brothers there, and with no ability to loan him out they could kill another year of his development by putting him back in the MHL with no recourse.

Because Silayev’s organization has shown a willingness to play and develop him. His coach is Igor Larionov who seems to appreciate young players. Silayev has a contract for two more years and he needs the time to develop.

Demidov has been unwilling to sign a new contract with SKA. They have kept him down in a league way too easy for him to be petty. They might do the same thing next season which would be a wasted year.

Thank you!

Can Demidov buy out the last year of his contract?

Another year in the MHL would indeed be a total waste of time but it may be worth Demidov here in his D+2!

Isnt CSKA also the organisation for which Bobrov worked in the past and his father still work there?

 

[Runner77]

2024 NHL Draft Rankings - HockeyProspect.com

HockeyProspect.com has produced NHL Draft Rankings for eligible draft prospects for the NHL Draft since 2004.

hockeyprospect.com

Hockey prospect's most recent list is just out.

I know their preamble says the list is begotten from their own viewings:

“Our rankings lists are created after we combine scouting viewings from multiple viewings of prospects by our scouts. Our scouts are located across Canada, USA and Europe.”

However, seeing Lindstrom up high like that, you get the sense more and more that he’ll never make it to the 5th slot.

 

[Rapala]

Great work WTF. I do disagree with some placements, but the effort put in is always appreciated.

LOL looking at that list I remember why I don't delve in as deeply as @WeThreeKings does.
Trying to keep the top 10 in some semblance of order is task enough for me.

 

[Rapala]

A majority of prognosticators are pencilling in Demidov as Chicago's choice in the 2 slot. Sure Demidov is highly skilled player but he is hardly risk free nor is he the perfect compliment to the Hawks' roster of smallish speedy forwards.

To my mind, Cayden Lindstrom is a way better fit. He's a tantalizing combination of size, speed, skill and snarl. I have no problem imagining him on left wing as Bedard's designated sniper or centering a powerful second line much the way the Oilers have employed Draisaitl over his career. A 500 goal career is not out of the question. Of all prospects not named Celebrini, Lindstrom may make the most sense for the Blackhawks.

Pretty much all you hear about is either Demidov or Levshunov but don't be surprised if draft day is full of surprises.

This draft in particular could be all over the place. I'm thinking we could have any number of trades.
Teams who want one of those highly touted Dmen may panic if they think their guy could go.
It's natural to think other teams are coveting your pick when you are down in the pecking order.

 

[Runner77]

This draft in particular could be all over the place. I'm thinking we could have any number of trades.
Teams who want one of those highly touted Dmen may panic if they think their guy could go.
It's natural to think other teams are coveting your pick when you are down in the pecking order.

This is not an ideal draft for teams looking to add a forward as their BPA. It’s a D-heavy draft in the top 12, unless the Habs have Sennecke or Iginla as their BPA at pick 5. So difficult to get a clear read on the top 4 picks, unlike last year.

 

[McGees]

"Oh hi Mr Hughes, heck what a coincidence that Cole Eiserman is in the same restaurant as the Habs management. Cole Eiserman loves steak. Do you mind if Cole Eiserman sits down at your table so Cole Eiserman can order a meal with y'all?"

- Habs combine meal with Cole Eiserman (probably)

 

[Rapala]

"Oh hi Mr Hughes, heck what a coincidence that Cole Eiserman is in the same restaurant as the Habs management. Cole Eiserman loves steak. Do you mind if Cole Eiserman sits down at your table so Cole Eiserman can order a meal with y'all?"

- Habs combine meal with Cole Eiserman (probably)

Attempting to read anything into the whole out to dinner thing is dare I say...
"Out to Lunch".

 

[WeThreeKings]

Here's my dream scenario for our picks. Listed in order of preference (3 options per pick)

5th overall:
Ivan Demidov/Berkly Catton/Cayden Lindstrom

26th overall:
Teddy Stiga/Andrew Basha/Dean Letourneau

57th overall:
John Mustard/Linus Eriksson/Raoul Boilard

70th overall:
Aatos Koivu/Carson Wetsch/Jacob Battaglia

78th overall:
Nathan Villenueve/Tomas Mrsic/AJ Spellacy

102nd overall:
Yegor Graf/Ethan Procyszyn/Ilya Protas

130th overall:
Oskar Vuollet/Jack Pridham/Ilya Nabokov

134th overall:
Eriks Mateiko/Javon Moore/Eemil Vinni

166th overall:
Hagen Burrows/Ilya Pautov/Miloslav Holinka

198th overall:
Luca Testa/Viktor Olofsson/Arsen Taimazov

210th overall:
Heikki Ruohonen/Andrei Krutov/Gabriel Eliasson

222nd overall:
Herman Traff/Matvey Babenko/Maxmillian Curran