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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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Cubebrick said:
There's the other end of the spectrum where people think that not drafting a kid with the 5th overall pick is burning/cancelling him which will scar his mental for the rest of his life. He's going to be picked later on and will survive.

I like his on-ice game a lot, but I sure won't take the risk of drafting with the 5th overall a kid who's played for 7 different programs in 6 years, has different toxic stories involving him throughout all his teen years, couldn't land in a top NCAA program, shows absolutely no accountability for anything and blames everyone else.

The range of prospects with a high upside similar to Connelly is pretty wide. I'd rather gamble on a prospect that shows equal promise but with a good attitude and a clean history instead. Said prospect also deserves that reward much more than Connelly.
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Who said anything about picking him 5th overall?

I just don’t think he belongs on a DND list, unless of course he’s shown no remorse for his past actions in team interviews.. then maybe stay clear of him.

But kids must be given an opportunity to learn from mistakes, and generally speaking their book is not written at 17-18 years old. All I’m saying.
 
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I wish I had a bit more meat on the bone to evaluate with Demidov, outside of clips of him clowning jabronies in the MHL. Even just seeing him at the combine would at least have given me a bit more context on the guy. I can't help feeling a bit uneasy about him at #5 and most of it is pure fear of the unknown on my part.
 
Pompeius Magnus said:
I wish I had a bit more meat on the bone to evaluate with Demidov, outside of clips of him clowning jabronies in the MHL. Even just seeing him at the combine would at least have given me a bit more context on the guy. I can't help feeling a bit uneasy about him at #5 and most of it is pure fear of the unknown on my part.
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Then everybody gets to see him.. the more mystery the better we have a chance at him.
 
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MTL Dirty Birdy said:
I think we should let that incredibly young inexperienced D prove that they can with time before making judgements.
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Well considering as young inexperienced D they each had questions on if they can even defend well enough in their respective leagues outside the NHL, I don't think it's a stretch to say that they likely won't be PK guys.
 
After what I just read on The Athletic by Harpoon Basoong, I'm worried they might pass on Demidov if he's there. It will depend on what I hear from Dany Dubé and Martin McGuire in the upcoming weeks.

My take on Michkov last year was mostly about the geopolitical situation and the habs wanting no part in that, but I thought they'd turn the corner with the new conflict being in Israel/Palestine.

For the record, I'm much higher on Demidov than Michkov. So this would totally blow.
 
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McGuires Corndog said:
Who said anything about picking him 5th overall?

I just don’t think he belongs on a DND list, unless of course he’s shown no remorse for his past actions in team interviews.. then maybe stay clear of him.

But kids must be given an opportunity to learn from mistakes, and generally speaking their book is not written at 17-18 years old. All I’m saying.
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I mean the discussion stems from asking why he's not considered as a top 3 pick, to which it devolved into "cause woke people".

I agree with you that he should not be canceled. He's a f***ing asshole but not a criminal.
 
le_sean said:
Why wouldn’t he be able to dominate? There’s not a lot of fast, skilled 6’3 210+ lbs forwards in the NHL.
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Think about the 2016 draft. At this moment in time, do you prefer M. Tkachuk or C. Keller, or the three big guys drafted at 2, 3 and 4 that most people expected to dominate for the next decade. Size is not everything, far from it. When I see Iginla play, I see skills that I do not see in Lindstrom. Will Lindstrom develop them to accompany his massive frame? Maybe, but maybe not. Will he be plagued by injury issues like this year? Maybe, but maybe not. Will he shine under the crazy bright lights of our city and its rabid fans? Maybe, but maybe not.

When I think about the whole picture (as far as I can see it), I think Iginla is a better pick for us, but hey, I'm happy to be wrong if we end up with Lindstrom.
 
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Cubebrick said:
I mean the discussion stems from asking why he's not considered as a top 3 pick, to which it devolved into "cause woke people".

I agree with you that he should not be canceled. He's a f***ing asshole but not a criminal.
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No one's asked for him to be canceled either, just being drafted in the NHL is a privilege and when your own character and actions makes you a toxic asset for the majority of teams and impacts your draft stock, you reap what you sow.

In the end, just like Mailloux the consequences will be getting drafted in round 1, having to PR a bit and signing an ELC worth millions..
 
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The Great Weal said:
Well considering as young inexperienced D they each had questions on if they can even defend well enough in their respective leagues outside the NHL, I don't think it's a stretch to say that they likely won't be PK guys.
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Sorry dude but Guhle and Reinbacher were defensive studs
 
WeThreeKings said:
No one's asked for him to be canceled either, just being drafted in the NHL is a privilege and when your own character and actions makes you a toxic asset for the majority of teams and impacts your draft stock, you reap what you sow.

In the end, just like Mailloux the consequences will be getting drafted in round 1, having to PR a bit and signing an ELC worth millions..
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Of course he shouldn't be. I agree with you 100%.

I'd want to reward a kid who is within the same upside range in the draft and who has done right with that opportunity over the other kid who has a toxic history.
 
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McGuires Corndog said:
He’s a kid.

That’s the thing with today’s generation. We don’t want to be tough on crime with adults but we’re willing to burn a 17-18yr old kid at the stake for being a dick.

It’s completely routed in Luna it’s not a mistake. It’s a reputation. There’s a difference.
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Naslund said:
Think about the 2016 draft. At this moment in time, do you prefer M. Tkachuk or C. Keller, or the three big guys drafted at 2, 3 and 4 that most people expected to dominate for the next decade. Size is not everything, far from it. When I see Iginla play, I see skills that I do not see in Lindstrom. Will Lindstrom develop them to accompany his massive frame? Maybe, but maybe not. Will he be plagued by injury issues like this year? Maybe, but maybe not. Will he shine under the crazy bright lights of our city and its rabid fans? Maybe, but maybe not.

When I think about the whole picture (as far as I can see it), I think Iginla is a better pick for us, but hey, I'm happy to be wrong if we end up with Lindstrom.
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Lindstrom is skilled. I don’t know why people keep bringing up Clayton Keller as if he’s some infallible player.
 
Schooner Guy said:
Parekh might not be Karlsson pre-achilles but he's a still a very fluid skater. He flies through the neutral zone at high speed. If the Habs do pick him, he'll be the most offensively gifted player we'll have drafted in decades. He'll add 10 points per season to Slaf's, Suzuki's and Caufield's totals. It would be the end of our PP woes.

He would require some work but would have huge payoff if they could get him playing adequate D at the NHL level. Like I mentioned, my biggest concern is his potential for injuries the way he's so reckless and puts himself in harm's way.
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The second paragraph sounds like Hutson as well.

My thoughts on drafting another defenseman.
If the habs draft another defenseman how are they all going to get enough playing time? Lack of playing time and lack of PP time will decrease the value of the asset.
Everyone says you just trade them but that isn't easy to do. There will be limited trading partners and you have to hope one of those teams have something you need that they are willing to give up.
The Habs are hoping to turn the corner of the rebuild this year so the idea of re-cycling building blocks for a marginal increase in production seems like a waste of asset management to me.
The truth is we really don't know what we have with the young defenseman in the system but we know we have a lot of them that have shown promise. It's a strength in the organization. I think its best to build on a weakness than add to a strength.
 
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Garnet76 said:
The second paragraph sounds like Hutson as well.

My thoughts on drafting another defenseman.
If the habs draft another defenseman how are they all going to get enough playing time? Lack of playing time and lack of PP time will decrease the value of the asset.
Everyone says you just trade them but that isn't easy to do. There will be limited trading partners and you have to hope one of those teams have something you need that they are willing to give up.
The Habs are hoping to turn the corner of the rebuild this year so the idea of re-cycling building blocks for a marginal increase in production seems like a waste of asset management to me.
The truth is we really don't know what we have with the young defenseman in the system but we know we have a lot of them that have shown promise. It's a strength in the organization. I think its best to build on a weakness than add to a strength.
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You have to go with the D though IF your scouting team deems all the available Fs to be clearly in a tier below.

June is the lying season in the NHL. For all we know, Habs brass could be planting seeds regarding them valuing some of those D more than other forwards to get Seattle or Ottawa to try to trade up for the 5th overall pick if Lindstrom and Demidov are both gone.
 
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Schooner Guy said:
Lots of momentum in here for Dickinson over the last week based on a strong 3rd period in a Memorial Cup final game that London lost but were heavily favoured to win.

Not much talk on how Dickinson was asleep throughout the 1st period when London couldn't get the puck out of their zone or how he got turned inside out in the neutral zone in the 2nd period on Saginaw's 3rd goal. He was also on the ice when the winner was scored with 21 seconds left.

This is the story of Dickinson. Very talented with terrific tools (what a skater!) and size but also very inconsistent (falls asleep often) and not physical.

Unlike what many others have been saying, I don't see it as a crime if we leave him on the draft board and take the best forward available. Like every player in this draft with the exception of Celebrini, Dickinson has question marks and could go anywhere in the top 10.
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I already noted Dickinson was the Dman who iced the puck leading up to Josh Bloom's goal. (unforced error)
Dickinson was berating himself after he iced it and apparently for good reason.
Owen Beck won the ensuing face-off and the rest is history.
These kids all make mistakes.
Sam Dickinson is no exception but at his age he has time work on the issues you bring up.
Is he puntable in HuGo's eyes if someone pushes hard enough?
 
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Vachon23 said:
Offensively, it won’t be a problem

Defensively though..
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This is already a potential issue with Hutson/Mailloux but adding another one to the mix would make it more challenging. Either way, I won't be upset if they pick Parekh since they will no doubt trade at least one of the three to get help in other areas and they'd likely have more value than someone inferior we draft instead.
 
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