HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Xirik]

I would definitely pick Connelly before Badinka. It's not like MTL is opposed to controversy. Might as well get the most skilled player and hope he's truly a changed man.

He might be a skilled player but I remember correctly its not like he did one bad thing and is learning from it, It was multiple things which shows a lack of intelligence and ability to change. He also is 161 lbs which is a bit under weight, He is going the NCAA route which should definitely help him with that though.

 

[salbutera]

If Connely is there at #26 , do you guy's pick him ?

Depends - did he take a dump in anyone’s bag during the interview?

 

[Sam I Am]

If Connely is there at #26 , do you guy's pick him ?

I wouldn't nor do I think the Habs will consider him. After the Mailloux debacle, it's safe to say that Connelly is DND.

 

[Simarino]

Who cares what our needs are right now! 70% of the players currently on the team will be gone in 5 years.

You take BPA. If a player ala Makar is available, would you ignore him simply it's not a need?

If teams are confident theres really a player like Makar, he wont be there at 5

 

[Sam I Am]

I was thinking this too. Timmins also lives in the Ottawa area, he would have seen LOTS of Sennecke.

The only danger is CBJ might trade down to take him and let someone who wants Demidov move up.

If Columbus swaps picks with another team who steals Demidov from under our noses, we can reciprocate by stealing Sennecke from Columbus!

 

[Xirik]

I'm finding myself unable to decipher the players this draft class.

It sounds like Demidov is a Kucherov type, Lindstrom a Byfield or Nichushkin type, and I don't know who Sennecke is - Rantanen? At any rate these are their ceiling types. What's more important than the type of player is how good they'll actually be at what they do at the NHL level. Many different types of players can be key pieces to winning a championship, not just the highest skill guys, and not just the biggest, most physically dominant guys.

Even though I don't know enough, I'm hoping for Demidov, but more looking forward to finding out who our scouts choose. The hype this year is higher level and more mysterious for me this year than in years past. A large variety of players that for all I know could boom or bust. Only 3 weeks away, yet feels like a long w as it...



Who is your comparable?

I've said this once before but to me Lindstrom stylistically is Josh Andersson if had a complete toolset of skills and a brain instead of only "great skater". What I think he can become is Lindros-lite

for Sennecke I get Claude Giroux vibes

 

[Simarino]

The more i read and think about it, i would bet on Demidov being avalaible at 5 before Lindstrom. History proved that teams will always priorize the big physical center over the skilled russian winger.

 

[Redux91]

The predators went to the cup final in 2017 with one of the deepest and most skilled defense in a long while. There lack of scoring is the reason they lost though.

The Habs forwards are already on their way to being better then the preds forward core of Arvidsson, Fisher, Johansen, Forsberg, and Neal.

Habs just need Dach to heal, Newhook to grow, and Roy to become a top 6 player. Another high end forward definitely would be nice though.

Is Monty comparable to Rinne? probably not so that another thing the Habs need but there isn't any goalie really ranked in the top 30.

Point being? There are multiple ways to skin a cat, Not that you should.

What's also interesting :
Nashville only 'got' to the Final with one of the Best D corps and great Goalie

They also 'Lost' the Cup to a team with Star and talented top 5 pick Forwards.... and what was called the weakest defense people had ever seen win a cup.

Just sayin.

 

[Sam I Am]

I've said this once before but to me Lindstrom stylistically is Josh Andersson if had a complete toolset of skills and a brain instead of only "great skater". What I think he can become is Lindros-lite

for Sennecke I get Claude Giroux vibes

Sennecke and Claude Giroux? I'd say Catton is much more reminiscent of Giroux that Sennecke is.

 

[Xirik]

The more i read and think about it, i would bet on Demidov being avalaible at 5 before Lindstrom. History proved that teams will always priorize the big physical center over the skilled russian winger.

Demidov is definitely closer to Celebrini then any of the next 14 players so if he's available at 5th you take it and run. Would be interesting after last year where people and pundits said the Hab's passed on the 2nd best player at 5th with Michkov and then get Demidov who is the 2nd best player this year at 5th OV

would be sort of storybook-ish.

 

[Xirik]

Sennecke and Claude Giroux? I'd say Catton is much more reminiscent of Giroux that Sennecke is.

you're probably right, I found it hard to think of a extremely good puck handler who can score that also fit what I think Sennecke in his prime might be.

 

[Habsfan18]

Rankings really are all over the map this year. I love it.

FC just released their final list:

FCHockey releases Final rankings for 2024 NHL Draft

Macklin Celebrini, a forward with Boston University, has topped FCHockey's Midterm rankings for the 2024 NHL Draft.

nhlentrydraft.com

I used to buy their Draft Guide (along with Hockey Prospect’s Black Book) for a number of years, but it’s probably been 5 or 6 years now since the last time. I typically stick with McKeen’s and Elite Prospects now as I realized I was spending way too much money on various guides but didn’t have the time to read them all.

Anyone still buy their guide?

 

[Sam I Am]

you're probably right, I found it hard to think of a extremely good puck handler who can score that also fit what I think Sennecke in his prime might be.

A comparable for Sennecke I've seen that seems to make sense is Batherson

 

[TT1]

A comparable for Sennecke I've seen that seems to make sense is Batherson

Sennecke is pretty similar to Dach tbh

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

Why do so many keep ranking Sennecke so low?

 

[Ozmodiar]

Rankings really are all over the map this year. I love it.

FC just released their final list:

FCHockey releases Final rankings for 2024 NHL Draft

Macklin Celebrini, a forward with Boston University, has topped FCHockey's Midterm rankings for the 2024 NHL Draft.

nhlentrydraft.com

I used to buy their Draft Guide (along with Hockey Prospect’s Black Book) for a number of years, but it’s probably been 5 or 6 years now since the last time. I typically stick with McKeen’s and Elite Prospects now as I realized I was spending way too much money on various guides but didn’t have the time to read them all.

Anyone still buy their guide?

Catton at 4!

 

[Scintillating10]

NJ gets :
Markstrom (50%)
Jets 26OA

Calgary gets :
Matheson

Habs get :
NJ’s 10OA
Retain 50% of Markstrom salary

Post on trade board, see if Devils/Flames fans would do it?

 

[Habs Icing]

Is there some type of 3-way deal w Cgy sending Markstrom to NJD, and Habs facilitating by eating $ + giving Cgy back their 2025 1st + Jets pick?

I'm confused. We're part of a 3-way trade where we eat mucho $ on Markstrom's contract. And for that privilege, we give Calgary back their 2025 1st and the Jets pick. I think even Rejean Houle would balk on this deal.

 

[Rapala]

Everyone watched the Memorial Cup Final right?
There was a defenseman who unneccessarily iced the puck just prior to that game winning goal.
He f***ed up and he knew it before anything bad happened.
Care to guess who that was?

All these kids make mistakes some unforced errors end up being worse than others.

I see us trading down if people are after Dickinson because I really don't think we are.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Everyone watched the Memorial Cup Final right?
There was a defenseman who unneccessarily iced the puck just prior to that game winning goal.
He f***ed up and he knew it before anything bad happened.
Care to guess who that was?

All these kids make mistakes some unforced errors end up being worse than others.

I see us trading down if people are after Dickinson because I really don't think we are.

Evan Bouchard also iced the puck against Vancouver at a bad time letting them tie it up.

I think Edmonton is pretty happy they got that guy.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Rankings really are all over the map this year. I love it.

FC just released their final list:

FCHockey releases Final rankings for 2024 NHL Draft

Macklin Celebrini, a forward with Boston University, has topped FCHockey's Midterm rankings for the 2024 NHL Draft.

nhlentrydraft.com

I used to buy their Draft Guide (along with Hockey Prospect’s Black Book) for a number of years, but it’s probably been 5 or 6 years now since the last time. I typically stick with McKeen’s and Elite Prospects now as I realized I was spending way too much money on various guides but didn’t have the time to read them all.

Anyone still buy their guide?

Considering that they do not employ scouts and are essentially a closed message board full of fans watching videos with zero credentials....why would anyone pay a penny for that. You are better off on these boards for free.

Their rankings also reflect typical fan tropes such as over hyping forwards and offensive stats.

Don't waste your money on basement scouts....

 

[le_sean]

Evan Bouchard also iced the puck against Vancouver at a bad time letting them tie it up.

I think Edmonton is pretty happy they got that guy.

Plus let’s not gloss over the fact that Bouchard has no peripheral vision. Amazing what he’s doing despite that.

 

[Rapala]

Evan Bouchard also iced the puck against Vancouver at a bad time letting them tie it up.

I think Edmonton is pretty happy they got that guy.

Evan Bouchard is not part of this draft so what is your point? I already said Kids make mistakes.
Do you not take Hughes at his word when he says he would punt the ball if the scenario merits it?

I only brought it up because Sam became the flavor of the week and it's one I don't think we will be tasting.

 

[Nedved]

Catton at 4!

I'm surprised with so many forwards from 1-5. I just don't see the board falling this way, but who knows, crazy things have happened before, like us reaching for KK at 3, or picking price @ 5.

 

[Schooner Guy]

I've said this once before but to me Lindstrom stylistically is Josh Andersson if had a complete toolset of skills and a brain instead of only "great skater". What I think he can become is Lindros-lite

That comparison makes zero sense. LIndstrom had 27 goals in 32 games as a 17 year old before his injury. Anderson had 12 goals in 64 games in his draft year and scored 27 goals in his D+2 season in 59 games.

Everyone was talking about Lindstrom as a likely #2-3 pick before his injury. He was on fire! He has soft hands around the net. My only concern with him is his back.

Yes. Because Catton will develop into a better player. In the short term, I also believe that even this summer you could potentially get a better goalscorer like Marchessault, Reinhart, Guentzel or Stamkos as a free agent than Caufield was last year.

You can't compare players entering UFA status to 23 year old Caufield. Reinhart and Guentzel will never come here. Marchessault and Stamkos would cost a fortune and we'd get them during their declining season. Caufield's on our roster now and we're going to get his prime years at a reasonable salary.