HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

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Pompeius Magnus

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I have to admit, Lindstrom is growing on me . Might not be the most dynamic prospect, but there's a ton to like there. Depending on where we end up, he could be a pretty high value pick.
 

WeThreeKings

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Eliteprospects put Lindstrom at 4 on their board.

They're VERY high on him.

Celebrini
Demidov
Eiserman
Lindstrom

is their top 4. No way defense don't go in there, but hey, if Lindstrom announces himself as a top 10 forward then that's another option for us.
 

JeffreyLFC

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Eliteprospects put Lindstrom at 4 on their board.

They're VERY high on him.

Celebrini
Demidov
Eiserman
Lindstrom

is their top 4. No way defense don't go in there, but hey, if Lindstrom announces himself as a top 10 forward then that's another option for us.
Where they ranked Cooley?
 

NotProkofievian

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Love MBN's game, but he has to start getting on the board, I'm honestly confused how he hasn't scored yet.

Helenius had a hell of a game tonight, two apples brings him up to 10 points in 17 games, and he was all over TPS like white on rice. In one shift he created an excellent scoring chance for a team mate, got a scoring chance for himself, denied an exit, and drew a penalty (on which his team scored). Things like that indicate his stock might sharply rise.
 
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WeThreeKings

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Love MBN's game, but he has to start getting on the board, I'm honestly confused how he hasn't scored yet.

Helenius had a hell of a game tonight, two apples brings him up to 10 points in 17 games, and he was all over TPS like white on rice. In one shift he created an excellent scoring chance for a team mate, got a scoring chance for himself, denied an exit, and drew a penalty (on which his team scored). Things like that indicate his stock might sharply rise.

Looks like MBN just snake bitten, I expect his second half production to be pretty pretty pretty good.

Helenius and Ryder Ritchie, along with Lindstrom look like the big risers on the forward side.
 

WeThreeKings

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Low offensive production but his skillset would make him a terrific fit. I would like your opinion after your viewing.

Same here! I've been curious about MBN, but I've no way to watch him.

MBN knows what he is so he plays the same way regardless of where you put him. I think having that assuredness of who you are as a player as a teenager is a big win.

  • Great size
  • Great skating
  • Excellent shot (wrist, one-timer)
  • Physical
  • Tenacious
  • High end motor
  • Has good hands and 1 on 1 skills
  • Playmaking is raw and basic.
If you put a brain in Anderson that's MBN for me. But an easier player to play with because, like I said, he has a brain
 

Richard Bolton

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MBN knows what he is so he plays the same way regardless of where you put him. I think having that assuredness of who you are as a player as a teenager is a big win.

  • Great size
  • Great skating
  • Excellent shot (wrist, one-timer)
  • Physical
  • Tenacious
  • High end motor
  • Has good hands and 1 on 1 skills
  • Playmaking is raw and basic.
If you put a brain in Anderson that's MBN for me. But an easier player to play with because, like I said, he has a brain
Could he be a good fit with Suzuki and Caufield for instance? That bigger bodied player who can retrieve the pucks, keep up with them and be another shooting option on the line?
 

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Pronman released his rankings, I'm only going to share the forwards in the non-playoff range.

1. Macklin Celebrini - Celebrini was a dominant USHL player as a 16-year-old in the league and has made an impact for Boston University right away as well. He checks every box you want in a top prospect. He skates well. He’s very skilled and creative. He makes a ton of plays. He can shoot the puck very well. He competes hard. Celebrini would be mentioned in the same breath as Adam Fantilli and Leo Carlsson from last year’s draft. If I had to make one minor criticism of his game, it’s that he projects more as an excellent all-around NHL No. 1 center, and not a true elite NHL scorer, but I still think he will bring plenty of offense.

3. Cole Eiserman - Eiserman may be the best pure goal scorer the U.S. NTDP has seen, and they just recently graduated Cole Caufield. Eiserman has great skill and finishing touch like Caufield, although maybe not as elite on both fronts, but he’s bigger and faster giving teams more assurances about how his game will translate to the NHL. Eiserman isn’t the best playmaker in the world, but he has game breaking qualities with his one-on-one play and shot when the puck is on his stick. He projects to be the type of player you build a power play around, someone who is among an NHL team’s leading scorers.

5. Ivan Demidov - Demidov was the best player in Russia’s junior league last season as an underage player, which is highly unusual. He got sparse time with SKA’s big club to start the season, then suffered a knee injury in the VHL that will keep him out for several months. Demidov has game-breaking skill to go with a strong motor. He’s all over the puck when he’s on the ice, making high-end dekes seem routine, and flying around the offensive zone making plays or winning battles. He’s a powerful but awkward-looking skater and he’s not the biggest winger, so he will need to score a ton in the NHL to justify a top-10 draft slot, which I think is very possible.

7. Berkly Catton - Catton was arguably the best player at the Hlinka Gretzky, leading Canada to a gold medal after a strong 16-year-old season in the WHL. The No. 1 pick in his WHL Bantam Draft, Catton is a well-rounded center. He’s a fluid, dynamic skater with good footspeed and better edge work. He’s very elusive with his feet and high-end skill. Catton isn’t that big, but he competes hard and is often buzzing around the ice due to his motor and skating. This season will be about proving whether his offense is very good or elite, but even if it’s not the latter he could still be an excellent NHL player for a long time.

10. Cayden Lindstrom - Lindstrom is an impressive all-around forward. Big centers who can skate and show offense will always get a lot of attention. Lindstrom has good skill and finishing ability and can create at a pro pace. He’s not the most instinctive player you’ll ever see, but his puck game is good enough to put up points in the NHL. I like that on top of his big frame he is very physical and competitive, and thrives generating chances in the high percentage areas. He has a highly translatable game to the NHL.

11. Konsta Helenius - Helenius has looked good against juniors and men over the last year and looks set to be an important part of Finland’s U20 team. He is an excellent playmaker who can make a lot of difficult passes consistently. He skates well and creates a lot of offense with pace for himself and others. Helenius isn’t a big center, but he gives strong efforts off the puck and doesn’t shy from going to the net. It remains to be seen whether at his size he is dynamic enough to be a top two line NHL center, but it’s certainly a distinct possibility.

14. Nikita Artamonov - Artamonov has been off to a great start to his draft season. He’s playing a notable role on a quality KHL team, including being an important part of Torpedo’s power play. He’s a forward with excellent hands, sense and vision and can make a lot of creative plays. That he’s a strong skater and able to create offense with pace is what has helped his game translate versus men so quickly as he has often beaten KHL defensemen with his skill. You rarely see KHL draft eligibles help a team, never mind two on the same club with him and Silayev.

15. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard - Brandsegg-Nygard is the clear best prospect Norway has ever produced for the NHL Draft. He has been very good at the Swedish junior level and is playing versus men this season. Brandsegg-Nygard is a good skater. He has excellent one-on-one skills. He has a lethal shot and is often a threat to score from range. His frame is average-sized, but he plays hard and has physicality in his game. He thinks the game well and sees plays develop, but I don’t think his playmaking is his main asset. He has an all-around game that should lend itself to success versus men and eventually being a good NHL forward.

Eliteprospects put Lindstrom at 4 on their board.

They're VERY high on him.

Celebrini
Demidov
Eiserman
Lindstrom

is their top 4. No way defense don't go in there, but hey, if Lindstrom announces himself as a top 10 forward then that's another option for us.


is this stuff from behind a paywall?
 

overlords

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How does Catton compare to Benson at the same age?

is this stuff from behind a paywall?


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WeThreeKings

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Could he be a good fit with Suzuki and Caufield for instance? That bigger bodied player who can retrieve the pucks, keep up with them and be another shooting option on the line?

Yes, he'd be a great fit for them.

is this stuff from behind a paywall?

EP isn't, it's on their youtube channel.

Pronman's is Athletic, but I only brought in the forwards and left out the D since they are likely irrelevant.

How does Catton compare to Benson at the same age?

Catton's frame/size and skating package is a way better package than Benson. Obviously Benson's smarts and defensive play are/were a tier above as that's what is allowing him to stay in the NHL right now.

Offensive skills for me are Catton's are better at every level, he just doesn't go inside as much as Benson does. But that's fine because his game works from everywhere on the ice, especially with how great his shot has gotten.
 

montreal

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Yes, he'd be a great fit for them.



EP isn't, it's on their youtube channel.

Pronman's is Athletic, but I only brought in the forwards and left out the D since they are likely irrelevant.

if it's anything that has to be paid for, just post a link, we have had complaints in the past. :help:

The Athletic is like a buck a month now if anyone wants to sign up btw.
 
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NotProkofievian

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I've never seen a shift of MBN's that I didn't like. Even tonight he's done several things that I like, had several shots/shot attempts just in the one period. But the score sheet is what it is, he has to crack the code somehow.
 

WeThreeKings

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I've never seen a shift of MBN's that I didn't like. Even tonight he's done several things that I like, had several shots/shot attempts just in the one period. But the score sheet is what it is, he has to crack the code somehow.

Didn't hurt Lucas Raymond too much.

Obviously those are exceptions, not the rule.

His shot is simply too good to not score goals at that level and the NHL level.

if it's anything that has to be paid for, just post a link, we have had complaints in the past. :help:

The Athletic is like a buck a month now if anyone wants to sign up btw.

Sounds good - I thought we were allowed to post excerpts as long as it wasn't the whole thing.
 

montreal

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Didn't hurt Lucas Raymond too much.

Obviously those are exceptions, not the rule.

His shot is simply too good to not score goals at that level and the NHL level.



Sounds good - I thought we were allowed to post excerpts as long as it wasn't the whole thing.

you can put a sentence or so but to me it's just easier to post a link and each person if they want to pay for it if they want to read it.
 
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SOLR

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Not just for the Q. Even some top canadians prospects take that route now. Celebrini, Fantilli.

Louis Leblanc was an avant-gardiste.

Honestly its normal, hockey was a north american thing and mainly quebec thing 50 years ago. So quebecois had a massive presence throughout the league.

As it is getting more and more popular, we simply dont have the resources nor the demographic to compete against USA, Europe and Russia.

I expect in a couple of decades to see Americans and Europeans dominate the sport (its already started) much more than Canadians. Quebecois in the NHL will become an exception like a small european country like Switzerland.

As Montreal Canadiens, its time we stop the favoritism for local (im not against having local talent, just no favoritism) and its time we kill the label of a local coach. The options are becoming very thin and we are shooting ourselves in the foot big time with such restriction.

Russia's demographics are falling like a rock, they are absolutely awful, to the point where the Russian genus base is set to collapse. I'm leaving the war stuff aside, but it's probably not helping at all - and that's on top of pre-existing terminal demographics. Quebec demographics are the best of the big provinces in Canada Fertility indicators, provinces and territories: Interactive dashboard.

Europe's demography is mostly worse than Quebec, outside of France and some small states. From a hockey point of view, we can expect a significant recruitment problem from demographics as most leading hockey nations have worsening demographic situations.

Americans are reproducing a bit more, but they are quickly following us with this generation.

It's more that the NHL dropped Quebec City, hockey is getting very expensive and parents are switching to soccer as a reaction. All my friends' kids are playing competitive soccer, not hockey.

Moreover, I suspect that more parents want their kids to study (and in English) in the US so that their kids have a better future. This is a long-standing problem with the CHL overall vs. the US system. Choices.
 
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SlafySZN

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Low offensive production but his skillset would make him a terrific fit. I would like your opinion after your viewing.
Even if as of now he doesn’t put points on the board, he’s generating a lot, the forecheck, the way he can win board battles/puck possession, he knows where to be so he can shoot the puck, he doesn’t have a bad passing game.

Don’t know if people will like the comparison but he kind of remind me of Matthew Knies. Like the type of player i mean.
 
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