HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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Doublechin

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That is a statement that would lead me to believe that you have either never seen him play or you were watching the wrong player. He is outstanding on the boards and consistently initiating contact. Much like his father he is freakishly strong for his size and is a tank on the wall. Combine this with his hands and shooting ability and there are some screamingly obvious similarities to his father.

Jarome was bigger, meaner and an elite shooter so it would be silly to claim that he is going to be just like his dad.....and nobody is saying that so maybe pump the brakes on the cynicism as it is over the top.

Tij looks every bit like a player that could be a similar player to his father in many ways but likely not as good in any way and that could still be a very good top six forward who wins playoff games. No need to unnecessarily bash the kid because of who his father is as that would be equally as annoying as anyone making a claim that he is going to be relatively close to what his father was.
He became that

He was drafted in the 10s and consistently improved

I'm not sure Tijs shot isn't better than his father's at the same age tbh
 
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McGees

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No more Iggy vs Catton debate as he will be gone by 8th when we pick.
Catton it is!
 

Estimated_Prophet

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He became that

He was drafted in the 10s and consistently improved

I'm not sure Tijs shot isn't better than his father's at the same age tbh

I actually watched Iginla and Tij is not in the same class at all despite being a great prospect in his own right. You are entirely basing your opinion on stats and draft position which is an enormous problem in this case.

Jarome was on an incredible Blazers team on his D-1 where he was buried behind the best junior line in hockey of Tucker, Dominechelli, and Doan and did not get the PP time and top minutes due to this. The result is that he was criminally underrated at the draft but Immediately upon being drafted he was considered a slam dunk as the top player in the draft as he destroyed the WHL and was the best player on Team Canada by a mile. Calgary traded for him right before the WJC's where he demostrated beyond any doubt that he should have went 1 OA and then went on to dominate the WHL, the WHL playoffs and the Memorial Cup.

To suggest that he gradually got better is dead wrong, he flew under the radar on one of the most stacked rosters in CHL history and once given the chance with Tucker and Doan graduating he immediately went super nova and was incredible from that point on.

Tij is playing top line minutes with a ton of PP time so trying to compare their D-1 stats and draft position is a grossly flawed attempt to equate one to another as context is king in this comparison. Suggesting that his shot may be better than his fathers is just not true and Tij is a very good shooter.....Iggy was a legendary shooter.

I am not crapping on Tij as I love his game and he is the player that I am leaning towards with our pick but he absolutely will not be his old man. He may be a perrenial all star in his prime but that would still be well below a first ballot hall of famer like his father
 
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No more Iggy vs Catton debate as he will be gone by 8th when we pick.
Catton it is!
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HuGort

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Hughes interview with Servatti, said when we draft if best player available is left shot defense. He may trade back a slot or two.

Be good because we acquire another pick. Which maybe useful as part of package for top 6 forward
 
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Hughes interview with Servatti, said when we draft if best player available is left shot defense. He may trade back a slot or two.

Be good because we acquire another pick. Which maybe useful as part of package for top 6 forward

I think we should draft BPA regardless of whatever position it is. Sometimes the BPA is not clear cut so maybe you pick the need player from a cluster, but if it is clear cut, just take the D.

Trading top pairing D or top 4D for a forward at a later date, is not that difficult.

Reaching for need creates a situation where it becomes a distraction in terms of overlooking other guys not on your needs list. Kotkaniemi is a good example of that.
 

26Mats

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Hughes interview with Servatti, said when we draft if best player available is left shot defense. He may trade back a slot or two.

Be good because we acquire another pick. Which maybe useful as part of package for top 6 forward
Do you have the link to that interview?
 

yianik

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I would say that the chances of using the Jets pick to move up closer to #1 are almost certainly zero. There is so little, if anything at all separating spots 2-8 that such a premium would be foolish to pay for such a small reward. I think if they trade the pick it will either be part of a package to land another young player ala Dach/Newhook or it will combined with another pick prospect to move into the top half of the draft with our 2nd first.
Multiple possibilities.

Hughes doesn't go off the charts, but he does go with his own conviction. So Slaf over Wright, Reinbacher over Michkov. Such a person is likelier to have a favourite and all I am saying is if he thinks a guy is likely to go 2 spots ahead of where we are picking, then go for it. Try at least.

If Anderson didn't have a lousy year then I could see a team offering up a top ten or so pick for Anderson and the Jets pick. Would have been great to have another high 1st. But he had a poor year.

Priority in any trade is getting good quality back.
 
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waitin425

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Regardless of where we pick, we just have to get it right.

Look at Wyatt Johnston. Picked 23rd. Scored his 32nd goal this year. Obviously a stacked Dallas team. But, he is 10 months older than Slaf.

For all we know, Andrew Basha could follow that path.

Sure, I get it...law of averages.....21' was notoriously hard to scout because of Covid.....but, we need to still hit on the pick. Our scouting staff has been doing good things the past couple of years.....THIS IS THE YEAR for us to make that steal.
 

MarkovsKnee

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Then we need to seriously discuss Buium.

Then you haven't read his early takes on Reinbacher or his last year takes on Slaf.

This or Lindstrom. You know he's gonna bang on the table. HOCKEY HISTORIANS!


Massé is maybe lasting until the 3rd. I can't seem to shake who's who in the Q. Boilard, Massé, Poirier, Desruisseaux, Blais, even Zonon and Lacerte. I know I really like Poirier and can't help but see vintage Giants-era Gally there.

Dude, Masse is not going in 3rd round. He's solidly 2nd. He needs to work on his skating for sure, but that's manageable.
 

FrankMTL

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Dude, Masse is not going in 3rd round. He's solidly 2nd. He needs to work on his skating for sure, but that's manageable.

Definitely second, maybe even high second and frankly, I wouldn't be shocked to see a team take him between 28-38. He always goes to the net and has good hands and a good shot. I can definitely see an NHL player in him even if it might only be a 2nd or 3rd liner. He's got good size too as he's already 6 foot 2 and 192 pounds.

He's the type of player that could a significant bump in production next season. I expect him to get 45-50 goals and 100+ points as an 18 year old.
 

Mrb1p

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Dude, Masse is not going in 3rd round. He's solidly 2nd. He needs to work on his skating for sure, but that's manageable.
Ive seen weirder things happen. Roy, Lardis, Ziemmer, Brzustewicz all went 3rd round+.

I have him in my top 50, but still, the point is that I find the Q players are very close in the 30-60ish range.
 
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