HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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SOLR

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Newhook, Lane Hutson, our 1st, Calgary 1st next year for 1st overall?

I feel like Hughes is cooking something like that.

or a smaller package for 2nd overall and Demidov.

Because that's what we need right now, trade quantity of assets for quality at the draft.

Incentive for San Jose / Chicago is to save 2 years of rebuild time. Of course the lottery has to happen and it will be pricey.
 
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Newhook, Lane Hutson, our 1st, Calgary 1st next year for 1st overall?

I feel like Hughes is cooking something like that.

or a smaller package for 2nd overall and Demidov.

Because that's what we need right now, trade quantity of assets for quality at the draft.

Incentive for San Jose / Chicago is to save 2 years of rebuild time. Of course the lottery has to happen and it will be pricey.
Nobody is trading 1st overall
 

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Newhook, Lane Hutson, our 1st, Calgary 1st next year for 1st overall?

I feel like Hughes is cooking something like that.

or a smaller package for 2nd overall and Demidov.

Because that's we need right now

Incentive for San Jose / Chicago is to save 2 years of rebuild time
I kind of feel like that is a pipe dream.
If I was making a deal I'd probably try to grab San Jose's 12th as a more realistic and less expensive proposition.
 

le_sean

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In a long time. Nordiques traded him.
He refused to go to Quebec, they were forced to.

No one is trading Celibrini.

Trading that pick is even less likely in a cap world. You basically have a PPG+ player for 3 years making less than $1m per year. There isn’t anything as valuable as that in the league.
 
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FrankMTL

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My current preference in terms of forwards:

Celebrini

Lindstrom
Demidov

Catton
or
Iginla (interchangeable at the moment for me as they both bring strengths to the table and offer something that we desperately need)

Helenius
Eiserman

I'm really interested to see how both Helenius and Eiserman do at the U18's. I need more viewings.
 

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I, and other posters, gave you arguments as to why there are question marks. The rankings show that many others (whose job it is) see these issues as well.

Of course I’ll be a fan if he’s drafted by the Habs. I don’t see how you use that against me. Why wouldn’t I want one of our prospects to succeed? How would that be a bad look?

Sorry for seeing a lot more potential in other top 10 picks than I do in him. I must be as uniformed as someone who just says “ELITE SHOT” when talking about him.

My whole argument, from the beginning, is that he has the abilities to be more than a shot. That’s it, nothing more, nothing less. And yet here you are putting words in my mouth.

As for the bolded, it’s gonna be a bad look because even YOU don’t really believe what you’re writing on these forums. It’s perfectly fine to keep in touch with the prospects by reading scouting reports online but it’s another thing to just repeat what you read as if it’s the one and only truth. You haven’t seen me get into multiple arguments with @WeThreeKings over Eiserman, have you? Yet he clearly doesn’t view him as a viable option for the Habs like I do. Know why? Because he’s shown his opinion isn’t just regurgitated lines from some scouts he read online and I respect that.

Anyway, this time I’m really done with this argument. I don’t even like Eiserman that much, he’s like the 4th forward I like most in this draft but some things said on here were just so ridiculous I couldn’t stay quiet.

I should’ve. I now know why @Mrb1p has gone off the deep end regarding Michkov, some takes on here :help::help:
 

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My whole argument, from the beginning, is that he has the abilities to be more than a shot. That’s it, nothing more, nothing less. And yet here you are putting words in my mouth.

As for the bolded, it’s gonna be a bad look because even YOU don’t really believe what you’re writing on these forums. It’s perfectly fine to keep in touch with the prospects by reading scouting reports online but it’s another thing to just repeat what you read as if it’s the one and only truth. You haven’t seen me get into multiple arguments with @WeThreeKings over Eiserman, have you? Yet he clearly doesn’t view him as a viable option for the Habs like I do. Know why? Because he’s shown his opinion isn’t just regurgitated lines from some scouts he read online and I respect that.

Anyway, this time I’m really done with this argument. I don’t even like Eiserman that much, he’s like the 4th forward I like most in this draft but some things said on here were just so ridiculous I couldn’t stay quiet.

I should’ve. I now know why @Mrb1p has gone off the deep end regarding Michkov, some takes on here :help::help:
I dont believe what I’m writing? I respect what WTK has written, always have, but I don’t see it being much different from the concerns I’ve had. You clearly just have a problem with me as a poster, for whatever reason. So just put me on ignore and move on with your life.
 
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SOLR

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So you think a Demidov and a Tij Iginla for example would equate to no impact?
I'll beg to differ on this one.

Demidov is going 2nd. That's what I am saying.

Iginla is not a franchise potential, he's a top 6 player. I think there's way too much excitement about this forward crop, it's a weak crop. We are about to emerge and if we leave the bottom of the field without ONE franchise quality forward, we'll be up for another 10 years of the same hopium.

Last year

Buffalo got Benson at 13 who I consider to be a better player
Pittsburgh got Yager at 14 who I consider to be a better player than Iginla.
Nashville got...Matthew Wood at 15.

A bit of context...
 

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almost shift by shift for Silayev who had a good defensive game. Artamonov's goal at the 18:00 mark, solid game from him but he has looked a bit disinterested at times, and his defensive effort hasn't looked so hot but I don't recall seeing any issues in his KHL games so I don't what's the issue but at some point after the prospect seasons end and before the draft I will go over and re-watch what I have as I still have all kinds of vids I haven't finished or gotten to.
 
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Demidov is going 2nd. That's what I am saying.

Iginla is not a franchise potential, he's a top 6 player. I think there's way too much excitement about this forward crop, it's a weak crop. We are about to emerge and if we leave the bottom of the field without ONE franchise quality forward, we'll be up for another 10 years of the same hopium.

Last year

Buffalo got Benson at 13 who I consider to be a better player
Pittsburgh got Yager at 14 who I consider to be a better player than Iginla.
Nashville got...Matthew Wood at 15.

A bit of context...
Demidov is not assured to be going second.
All the power to you if you can flat out state Benson and Yager and Wood will end up better than Iginla.
My gut feeling is no they won't. But I'll admit it's gut and not the expertise you possess.
 

FrankMTL

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Demidov is going 2nd. That's what I am saying.

Iginla is not a franchise potential, he's a top 6 player. I think there's way too much excitement about this forward crop, it's a weak crop. We are about to emerge and if we leave the bottom of the field without ONE franchise quality forward, we'll be up for another 10 years of the same hopium.

Last year

Buffalo got Benson at 13 who I consider to be a better player
Pittsburgh got Yager at 14 who I consider to be a better player than Iginla.
Nashville got...Matthew Wood at 15.

A bit of context...

Matthew Wood is the equivalent of Liam Greentree who's slated to go about the same place.

Yager was defintely not better last season, than Iginla is this season....What made Yager a better prospect than Iginla? Yes Yager is playing great this season, but Iginla will more than likely dominate next season too.

Benson fell more than likely because of his size. A lot of people thought he would be drafted between 7-10.
 
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le_sean

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Must been awful bad about Michkov. Whatever it was? For Montreal to pass on him. He was head and shoulders most skilled player available at our pick last draft. Better than Demidov this year.
I think the biggest concern was how implicated he is without the puck on his stick. He tends to wait for the play to come to him. I remember Arpon Basu making the comment once that he was watching a game with Michkov and was wondering where he was on the ice. He wasn’t in the frame because he was hanging out in the neutral zone while his team was defending.

It’s one thing to not be good defensively, it’s another entirely different thing to put zero effort. I can’t imagine Torts coaching him
 
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Must been awful bad about Michkov. Whatever it was? For Montreal to pass on him. He was head and shoulders most skilled player available at our pick last draft. Better than Demidov this year.
It’s possible he let us know he didn’t really want to be here or didn’t show enough enthusiasm to come. I’m not suggesting that it happened, only that it’s a possibility.
 
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I think the biggest concern was how implicated he is without the puck on his stick. He tends to wait for the play to come to him. I remember Arpon Basu making the comment once that he was watching a game with Michkov and was wondering where he was on the ice. He wasn’t in the frame because he was hanging out in the neutral zone while his team was defending.

It’s one thing to not be good defensively, it’s another entirely different thing to put zero effort. I can’t imagine Torts coaching him
Serves him right for insisting being drafted there. Hope he gets an earfull of Torts motivation, if the latter can stick around.
 
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