HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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SannywithoutCompy

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Catton!!!!!

He has now 52 goals and 111 points in 65 games.

Look at this:

In the same league in the WHL:

1- Zach Benson last season did 98 points in 60 games with 36 goals.

This year he has 23 points with the Sabres at 18 years old.

He was drafted 13th overall in a very strong draft where he slided because of his frame at 5.9..and a lot of teams will regret to pass on him soon....

2- Brayden Yager did 78 points in 62 games last season. He was drafted 14th overall by Pittsburgh last year and this season in the WHL he has not the pace of Catton with a year older.

Catton at 5.11 is a hell of a player. He has not the frame of Lindstrom but he is a lot smarter.

He is a Top 5 talent easily.

If we draft 5th to 8th.....we will regret it if we pass on him..
I think at this point I take him over everyone not named Macklin or Ivan
 

The Last Red

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I'm starting to feel bad for the Cattonites here. There's a better chance that Don Cherry is Marty St. Louis' eventual replacement than the Habs using their now near-certain top 9 pick on Catton. The Habs will draft a d-man they don't really need before they draft Catton. Players the size of Catton either get drafted 1OA (because they're just so much better than everyone else), which he obviously won't, or around 10 or lower. He's going to be outside of the top 9. Sorry.

I'd rather not pick Helenius at this juncture.. so who knows if they like Catton more than him.

So hopefully AZ, OTT and CBJ can keep winning and we can keep losing so we know one of Demidov or Lindstrom will be on the board for us.
The Habs will draft one of the d-men not named Anton Silayev before Catton or Helenius.
 
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Jaynki

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I'm starting to feel bad for the Cattonites here. There's a better chance that Don Cherry is Marty St. Louis' eventual replacement than the Habs using their now near-certain top 9 pick on Catton. The Habs will draft a d-man they don't really need before they draft Catton. Players the size of Catton either get drafted 1OA (because they're just so much better than everyone else), which he obviously won't, or around 10 or lower. He's going to be outside of the top 9. Sorry.
We should not take our speculation for granted.

Cooley has been drafted top 3 and he if there is one recent draftee we can compare to Catton, its him.

Also, Habs brass had a lot of contacts with Benson last year and he was highly considered by our staff.

I would not be surprise if we draft Catton at 7ov or even he might be drafted before we pick. As much as some player have more enticing overall profiles, Catton is at the top of the draft when it comes to offensive upside.
 

The Last Red

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We should not take our speculation for granted.

Cooley has been drafted top 3 and he if there is one recent draftee we can compare to Catton, its him.

Also, Habs brass had a lot of contacts with Benson last year and he was highly considered by our staff.

I would not be surprise if we draft Catton at 7ov or even he might be drafted before we pick. As much as some player have more enticing overall profiles, Catton is at the top of the draft when it comes to offensive upside.
Except it's not entirely speculation. And the Habs didn't draft Cooley . . , they drafted a behemoth. Anyway, you're going to be disappointed if you want Catton.
 

Jaynki

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Except it's not entirely speculation. And the Habs didn't draft Cooley . . , they drafted a behemoth. Anyway, you're going to be disappointed if you want Catton.
It's entirely speculation. They also drafted Hutson and Mesar, and luckily they drafted the right guy at 1OV.

Also, i don't want Catton. I want Lindstrom or Tij, but i would be very happy with Catton too.
 

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We should not take our speculation for granted.

Cooley has been drafted top 3 and he if there is one recent draftee we can compare to Catton, its him.

Also, Habs brass had a lot of contacts with Benson last year and he was highly considered by our staff.

I would not be surprise if we draft Catton at 7ov or even he might be drafted before we pick. As much as some player have more enticing overall profiles, Catton is at the top of the draft when it comes to offensive upside.
Yep and when you look at Lindstrom..the dude had....19 assists in 32 games so far this season.

As a center....wtf. and he had a great cast around him

For me ..it is a red flag. If you have so few assists as a center in Juniors.....I mean how in the world he will make his wingers better in the NHL


Catton is the guy and I don't care about dumb scouts who draft undersized players out of the Top 10...we should take this guy.

Cattonis 5.11 for godsake..a money player
 

Jaynki

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Yep and when you look at Lindstrom..the dude had....19 assists in 32 games so far this season.

As a center....wtf. and he had a great cast around him

For me ..it is a red flag. If you have so few assists as a center in Juniors.....I mean how in the world he will make his wingers better in the NHL


Catton is the guy and I don't care about dumb scouts who draft undersized players out of the Top 10...we should take this guy.

Cattonis 5.11 for godsake..a money player
Also has 27 goals in those 32 games and some elite tools.

Agree on Catton too, it would be a shame if this guy is going out of the top 10 but at the end of the day, center with size and top six upside and defenseman with size with top pair upside will always be valued higher than undersized winger.
 

The Last Red

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It's entirely speculation. They also drafted Hutson and Mesar, and luckily they drafted the right guy at 1OV.

Also, i don't want Catton. I want Lindstrom or Tij, but i would be very happy with Catton too.
I was talking about top 10. They didn't draft Hutson or Mesar in the top 10, obviously. They didn't even use their first second rounder on Hutson.
 

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Also has 27 goals in those 32 games and some elite tools.

Agree on Catton too, it would be a shame if this guy is going out of the top 10 but at the end of the day, center with size and top six upside and defenseman with size with top pair upside will always be valued higher than undersized winger.
You are right about that.

However Catton will have a better NHL career than Lidstrom in my view point wise.

Catton as the same ratio in terms of goals but has a lot better vision and he is alone on his team except Roulette
 

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Yep and when you look at Lindstrom..the dude had....19 assists in 32 games so far this season.

As a center....wtf. and he had a great cast around him

For me ..it is a red flag. If you have so few assists as a center in Juniors.....I mean how in the world he will make his wingers better in the NHL


Catton is the guy and I don't care about dumb scouts who draft undersized players out of the Top 10...we should take this guy.

Cattonis 5.11 for godsake..a money player
How many assists does Austin Matthews have? Who cares?
 

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It's entirely speculation. They also drafted Hutson and Mesar, and luckily they drafted the right guy at 1OV.

Also, i don't want Catton. I want Lindstrom or Tij, but i would be very happy with Catton too.
You can’t use Hutson as an example. That was a late 2nd round pick and basically “well we have to take him at this point”

Bobrov just doesn’t seem to want smaller players in the top half of the 1st round. He’s just never made that type of pick. Maybe he surprises us, but I don’t expect it.
 

crosbyshow

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How many assists does Austin Matthews have? Who cares?
I care cause Lindstrom is not the sniper that Matthews is.

At 19 assists in 32 games...it s awful awful as a junior especially with the cast he had.

Let's discuss in 5 years...about Catton vs Lindstrom

Catton has no one around him and he has a better season PPG.

Catton is the man!!
 
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teamfirst

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Just saw that Bob McKenzie has Eiserman 4th on his list right before Lidstrom and Demidov, is he that good
 

le_sean

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I care cause Lindstrom is not the sniper that Matthews is.

At 19 assists in 32 games...it s awful awful as a junior especially with the cast he had.

Let's discuss in 5 years...about Catton vs Lindstrom

Catton has no one around him and he has a better season PPG.

Catton is the man!!
We saw similar seasons with poor supporting casts for guys like Marco Rossi and Cole Perfetti. It doesn’t mean they will be elite NHLers. A lot of work will have to be done to contextualize Catton’s production to see if that can continue at higher levels. His points per 60 aren’t anything to write home about, he’s pretty much always on the ice.
 
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Just saw that Bob McKenzie has Eiserman 4th on his list right before Lidstrom and Demidov, is he that good

Despite all the talks about him being this or that, he's putting above GPG and his offensive IQ is off the charts.

Goal scoring is the most difficult thing to find in this league and this guy has Elite goal scoring skills. I mean, it's not only the shot...much like Caufield until this year, he makes it look easy.

Only players I would consider above him are Celebration, Demigod and Lindstrom.
 

teamfirst

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Despite all the talks about him being this or that, he's putting above GPG and his offensive IQ is off the charts.

Goal scoring is the most difficult thing to find in this league and this guy has Elite goal scoring skills. I mean, it's not only the shot...much like Caufield until this year, he makes it look easy.

Ya he must have something, Bob is often on the spot with his ranking but reading this thread i never tought he was rank that high
 

JeffreyLFC

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Try going against one of his takes.... Or try finding one of the archived threads here, you'll see.
His biggest issue is never admitting when he was wrong.
He would erase all the evidence of his bad takes and never talk about them but he will continue pushing for his hot players that were ranked higher constantly.

Until recently he was still pushing the narrative that Matthews is overrated (because he ranked him 2nd overall) and that Kotkaniemi is top line center. I do not care about people misevaluating a player but to keep pushing for that narrative 6 or 7 or more years later. Jeez talk about obsession.
 

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Cattonis 5.11 for godsake..a money player

The difference between 5’11 and 6’0 in the eyes of NHL scouts

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Jaynki

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You are right about that.

However Catton will have a better NHL career than Lidstrom in my view point wise.

Catton as the same ratio in terms of goals but has a lot better vision and he is alone on his team except Roulette
Well i think he has higher offensive potential too. Im not sure if he will have a better career but i would not bet on Lindstrom either against Catton.
 

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Just saw that Bob McKenzie has Eiserman 4th on his list right before Lidstrom and Demidov, is he that good
Before the draft Eiserman was seen as the one guy who could unseat Cellebrini for number one. His two way play has been disappointing and he’s been more of a complimentary player who’s relying on others to drive the play.

But… the skill is there. The goals per game is still there. He has huge upside but does not come without risk.

If he were available, he’d be the guy I’d draft.

That doesn’t mean much though as I’m going off reports. Two years ago I wanted Wright and that’s not the case now so… I’ll trust our scouts.
 
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