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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
    422
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WeThreeKings said:
Not good at all, we've already reached a critical mass of D prospects.
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But if you feel that one of those available D is a surefire stud in a couple of years where as you are hesitant about the next tier of forwards, wouldn't it make sense to go for it and then use for example Guhle to do a Drysdale-Gauthier type of move to get scoring talent. Easier said than done yes, but still.
 
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absolute garbage said:
But if you feel that one of those available D is a surefire stud in a couple of years where as you are hesitant about the next tier of forwards, wouldn't it make sense to go for it and then use for example Guhle to do a Drysdale-Gauthier type of move to get scoring talent. Easier said than done yes, but still.
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I don’t think so for the reason you stated: it’s easier said than done. The trade you referenced is an outlier, it rarely occurs. There will be good F prospects at 7-10. Draft one.
 
sampollock said:
yup

enough D... this team lacks true scoring
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It might not feel that way soon but there's definitely a shotgun spot next to Dach that we need to have a talented player to sit there.

FrankMTL said:
I mean i guess it depends if Hughes already has a draft day trade lined up to ship out a young d-man or 2 for a young forward.
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Sure but I can't prognosticate that it will happen, so I always post on the assumption that things are status quo.

The Last Red said:
FWIW, McCagg thinks we'll draft Iginla if we're in the 7-10 range.
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Possible - that's the type of player they'd covet. They like the risers in the draft and I'm sure just like all scouts, they love the bloodlines.

absolute garbage said:
But if you feel that one of those available D is a surefire stud in a couple of years where as you are hesitant about the next tier of forwards, wouldn't it make sense to go for it and then use for example Guhle to do a Drysdale-Gauthier type of move to get scoring talent. Easier said than done yes, but still.
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How often do those come to fruition and how confident are we that we can do it over a Columbus who have Jiricek, Boqvist, Mateychuk, etc. or an Anaheim who has Mintyukov, Luneau, etc.

The answer is, pick up the phone from the horny teams who want a defenseman, get paid to take the forward in the next tier and use those picks to move around the board and get other prospects you've identified.
 
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I have no problem with taking a d-man, but if it happens I think we see a trade for an established forward packaging a D prospect or two with some draft picks.
 
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I have zero problem in selecting a defensenan with our top picks and quite frankly I would not be surprised if 5 or 6 years from now we look back at this draft and say that was the year to draft a defenseman (similar to 2008). The quality is vastly superior from previous years and the players in the top 15 have massive talent to be gamechanger. Significantly better than Reinbacher, Hutson or even Guhle for instance.
 
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BPA - teams massage the heck out it’s meaning.

“The fact that he’s a center makes him BPA because it’s such an important position.” (KK?)
“If quality is equal or similar, then sure, we’ll look at positional needs.” (Slaf?)

These 2 concerns are more relevant near the very top of the draft - players who will be ready next season or the season after - where a pick for need is more likely. They’re building the core and know where they slot in. A glue/core piece vs a player tossed into the general population prospect pool.

Unless there’s a D who’s a tier above, I expect the Habs to take a forward.
 
If you're always going by BPA, then you should have 0 issues with trading whoever you drafted as extra after the fact. It seems it isn't the case with folks around here eh?
 
absolute garbage said:
If those top 3 forwards are gone, how do people feel about drafting one of the top D over the next tier of forwards?
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Lots can change before the draft, but if I'm choosing between Levshunov and Helenius/Catton/Iginla/Eiserman, I'm probably going with Levshunov and figuring something else out at forward.

A RD with that kind of upside is incomparably more valuable and will have a bigger impact on this team long term than filling a top-6 forward spot. We can likely find a Helenius/Catton/Iginla/Eiserman by other means, we're not finding a Levshunov outside the draft.
 
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Draft said:
Lots can change before the draft, but if I'm choosing between Levshunov and Helenius/Catton/Iginla/Eiserman, I'm probably going with Levshunov and figuring something else out at forward.

A RD with that kind of upside is incomparably more valuable and will have a bigger impact on this team long term than filling a top-6 forward spot. We can likely find a Helenius/Catton/Iginla/Eiserman by other means, we're not finding a Levshunov outside the draft.
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We won't be in a position to draft Levshunov either, though.

That's the fallacy.. thinking that the Habs are going to be picking where all the forwards are off the board but there's a top tier defenseman on the board, that's just not likely to happen.

We know Levshunov, in particularly, is going high.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
We won't be in a position to draft Levshunov either, though.

That's the fallacy.. thinking that the Habs are going to be picking where all the forwards are off the board but there's a top tier defenseman on the board, that's just not likely to happen.

We know Levshunov, in particularly, is going high.
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That's likely to be the case, not the premise of the question being answered though.

If I'm the Habs, there's a pretty distinct tier of four players after Celebrini - Lindstrom, Demidov, Levshunov, and Dickinson. Each one of these players has relatively clear top line and top pairing potential that won't rely on specific deployments to be successful. Each has the possibility to move a Habs top player/prospect out of their spot. Outside of this tier, I'm leaning heavily toward Catton or Helenius.
 
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Draft said:
That's likely to be the case, not the premise of the question being answered though.

If I'm the Habs, there's a pretty distinct tier of four players after Celebrini - Lindstrom, Demidov, Levshunov, and Dickinson. Each one of these players has relatively clear top line and top pairing potential that won't rely on specific deployments to be successful. Each has the possibility to move a Habs top player/prospect out of their spot. Outside of this tier, I'm leaning heavily toward Catton or Helenius.
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Don't sleep on Parekh, he also has top talent.
 
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Hannibal said:
If we do trade for Zegras, we can forget another smallish forward. So you can forget Catton, Demidov etc. Wouldn’t be surprise to see us pick Iginla or reach for MBN if thats the case.
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I suspect if we trade for Zegras we won't have this pick anymore.
 
absolute garbage said:
If those top 3 forwards are gone, how do people feel about drafting one of the top D over the next tier of forwards?
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We could draft a dman, but I would like to see a move at the same draft. Like one of our best dman/rookie/prospect vs a good Forward. Cause we need high end talent up front.
 
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