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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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Lafleurs Guy said:
You have to be able to score to win in the playoffs though. Caufield’s a game breaker but it’d be nice to have another.

If we draft Lindstrom I’ll be fine with it. He looks like an awesome prospect. But I’ve heard posters with the idea that points and goals don’t matter or are more applicable to fantasy hockey - and it couldn’t be more wrong.

There’s just not enough respect being given to the elite gamebreaking talent that’s in this draft. Lindstrom is big and his stats are good but is he really going to put up the numbers these other guys will? Scoring goals is the single most important skill you can have. Goal differential is what determines winners and losers. I hope our scouts remember this before they make any picks.
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Problem with another Caufield is, yes that natural, dynamic goal scorer could win you games, but their soft nature and not the best defensively (Though, it honestly seems like CC is trying to improve that aspect) could cost you more games than you win.

Eiserman seems like a great pick around top 10, or later, but seems like it is, but isn't a good pick top 7, or so if that makes sense ?
 
Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
Problem with another Caufield is, yes that natural, dynamic goal scorer could win you games, but their soft nature and not the best defensively (Though, it honestly seems like CC is trying to improve that aspect) could cost you more games than you win.

Eiserman seems like a great pick around top 10, or later, but seems like it is, but isn't a good pick top 7, or so if that makes sense ?
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Passing on a better player than Caufield because we have Caufield is completely asinine. Pick the BPA and work with your pro-scouting to fill the voids in your line-up.
 
Mrb1p said:
Overscouting. Its typical.

Re: Michkov and Caufield.
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I'll disagree here. I think it's more of a lack of development in his game this year that's causing people to sour on him (as well as underlying metrics backing up that feeling). I think Caufield and Michkov were both a lot more dynamic in their skillsets and showed more improvement in their draft years than Eiserman has so far.

If Eiserman stops working on his overall game he'll still make the show, but I think his impact will be more comparable to a prime Mike Hoffman which I wouldn't spend a top 10 pick on.
 
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SannywithoutCompy said:
I'll disagree here. I think it's more of a lack of development in his game this year that's causing people to sour on him (as well as underlying metrics backing up that feeling). I think Caufield and Michkov were both a lot more dynamic in their skillsets and showed more improvement in their draft years than Eiserman has so far.

If Eiserman stops working on his overall game he'll still make the show, but I think his impact will be more comparable to a prime Mike Hoffman which I wouldn't spend a top 10 pick on.
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A "prime" Mike Hoffman, which is a top 10 goalscorer in the NHL /Injuries and poor longevity is 100% worth a top 10 pick, and even more. Thats a misconception around the draft, the 10th best player is very rarely a 30g+ scorer for (Assuming no injuries and poor longevity) 5-6-7 years.

1.35 to 1.5 is also an improvement, not sure how were spinning this as stagnating, but I don't expect anything better from the guy pushing the Eiserman smear campaign, to be fair. The same was done last year with Michkov.

Going from .3 A's to .65 A's is also a pretty big step but could be scratched to natural variation. He's on pace to be 7 goals off Caufields record, we gotta chill with the fake news, really.
 
Mrb1p said:
Passing on a better player than Caufield because we have Caufield is completely asinine. Pick the BPA and work with your pro-scouting to fill the voids in your line-up.
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You have to consider everything and we don't know if he would be viewed as the BPA at the time.

I'm not saying leave him, but it would be like the Reinbacher pick again, depending on where the habs select and who's there. If they're 8th and they get him, that's solid.



This draft has a decent amount of forwards 6'2, or bigger who are doing well and are sprinkled throughout the draft, so there's no reason for the habs to leave another draft with a bunch of forwards 6' and less.

On the flip side, if the habs could draft Justin Poirier that would be nice,
 
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Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
You have to consider everything and we don't know if he would be viewed as the BPA at the time.

I'm not saying leave him, but it would be like the Reinbacher pick again, depending on where the habs select and who's there. If they're 8th and they get him, that's solid.



This draft has a decent amount of forwards 6'2, or bigger who are doing well and are sprinkled throughout the draft, so there's no reason for the habs to leave another draft with a bunch of forwards 6' and less.

On the flip side, if the habs could draft Justin Poirier that would be nice,
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I don't give a flying f*** about size, on my end.

This team hasn't been scoring goals for almost half a century now. f*** that noise. Get that Kucherov, get that Panarin, get that Kaprizov, get that Hughes, get that Point, get that Aho, get that Pastrnak, get that Guentlze, get that Kane.
 
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Any good shift by shifts channels this year ? Want to maximize viewing time and that guy who used to do them decided to be a lazy ass. I mean, yeah he did them in his free time for a pittance. However, I don't care, I just want my precious videos.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
You have to be able to score to win in the playoffs though. Caufield’s a game breaker but it’d be nice to have another.

If we draft Lindstrom I’ll be fine with it. He looks like an awesome prospect. But I’ve heard posters with the idea that points and goals don’t matter or are more applicable to fantasy hockey - and it couldn’t be more wrong.

There’s just not enough respect being given to the elite gamebreaking talent that’s in this draft. Lindstrom is big and his stats are good but is he really going to put up the numbers these other guys will? Scoring goals is the single most important skill you can have. Goal differential is what determines winners and losers. I hope our scouts remember this before they make any picks.
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Lindstrom had 27 goals in 32 games before he got hurt, thats close to the Eiserman goalscoring pace on a stacked USNDTP team. One is a power center who plays a complete game, the other has some coasting to his game and is defensively inept. Eiserman will score you goals, but will cost you some as well, he is not a reliable 2-ways player at this point. You draft him at your own risks.
 
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Goldenhands said:
Lindstrom had 27 goals in 32 games before he got hurt, thats close to the Eiserman goalscoring pace on a stacked USNDTP team. One is a power center who plays a complete game, the other has some coasting to his game and is defensively inept. Eiserman will score you goals, but will cost you some as well, he is not a realible 2-ways player at this point. You draft him at your own risks.
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Again with the stacked team argument when Lindstrom.played every single seconds of his time on the ice with the future 1OA.
 
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Andrei79 said:
I saw Demidov/Eiserman. It's too bad @montreal doesn't want to work harder so he can get a few cents for hours of work. Weve got a whole top 10 to binge watch and we don't want to work or pay for it.
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I have a few Levshunov games up, some from last year in the USHL vs Fowler or maybe Croteau I forget. Some of his games from early on this season. Plus a ton of Celebrini of course.

I have 2 OHL games of Jett Luchanko, he's very interesting.
 
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Goldenhands said:
Lindstrom had 27 goals in 32 games before he got hurt, thats close to the Eiserman goalscoring pace on a stacked USNDTP team. One is a power center who plays a complete game, the other has some coasting to his game and is defensively inept. Eiserman will score you goals, but will cost you some as well, he is not a realible 2-ways player at this point. You draft him at your own risks.
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Eiserman has a long history though. He’s always been an elite sniper.

Lindstrom brings other things. If we draft him I’ll be happy. I just hope he’s got the scoring talent of a first liner. I don’t want a big dude for the second line.

The usual caveat comes here. I don’t have strong opinions on individual players because I haven’t watched them. I’ll rely on our scouts and hope for the best. I just don’t want to pass up on the next Brett Hull or Mike Bossy.
 
Andrei79 said:
Any good shift by shifts channels this year ? Want to maximize viewing time and that guy who used to do them decided to be a lazy ass. I mean, yeah he did them in his free time for a pittance. However, I don't care, I just want my precious videos.
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You can find shift by shifts on YouTube.
 
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Highly doubtful he falls to 7 but that's the dream right there
 
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Jack Skellington said:
Is Clayton Keller a comparable for Catton
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Hmm. Yes and no. Keller has that play driver mentality that Catton sorely misses, even if he does drive the play (Keller is just very good at this.) but on the other end, Catton has more jam, has better goalscoring and is overall a bit better defensively, at least at the same age. I find Catton may float a bit more and is often time happy without the puck, and meanwhile Keller needs to be the center of the play. Keller is more dynamic in that end, the closest Keller comparable is Demidov.

My comparison for Catton is Point.

Goldenhands said:
Lindstrom has spend alot of time with Basha, on a different line than Mckenna. Mckenna or not, Lindstrom was scoring goals at will.
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Yes he did, and Basha is himself a fantastic offensive prospect. Lindstrom is very good, but he is not the straw that stirs the drink, he's complementary. Wether it has been Mc or Basha, the play does not go through him.

Lindstrom would look fantastic in Chicago, Anaheim, Philly or Colombus, with Bedard, Carlsson, Michkov or Fantilli, not with Suzuki.
 
Unless we have a top 4 pick I don't see Lindstrom being anywhere close to available to us. Teams will not let that kind of special package drop very far. Big, fast, skilled centerman who throws the body around. Yeah, no chance. I would wager he goes top 3, but could see him fall only as far as 4th only if a couple teams really fall in love with defensemen.

He'll be the 2nd forward drafted, I'm relatively confident in that.
 
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