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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
    422
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Goldenhands said:
Look I wont argue with you if we should pick Parekh top 10 or not, but in term of skating mechanics, size , smoothness, he is in the same league as a young Kristopher Letang, which is nearly elite level. Letang isnt the strongest guy either, but still defends well enough with his skating, IQ, stickwork. Parekh can use his size at times too, its not like he was totally imcompetent physically 1 on 1.
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. No disrespect intended. Most of my professional staff agrees with you. But some are starting to waiver in their conviction. I’m not sure, however, whether it’s because I sign their paycheques or the probative / persuasive strength of my position.
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. No disrespect intended. Most of my professional staff agrees with you. But some are starting to waiver in their position. I’m not sure however whether it’s because I sign their paycheques or the probative / persuasive strength of my position.
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Yeah thats indeed a good reason to agree with you, I would too... ;)
 
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Another first round pick would be really nice. There are so many interesting RHD that could fall to the back half of the first round like Jiricek, Emery and Pulkkinen. Or if we want to take a flyer on some projects at forward like Letourneau, Hemming or even a sliding Connelly....
 
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Mrb1p said:
Foregoing talent for size strictly is a problem. The team would look sick if they had a top 6 consisting of those guys, but they don't and they have a 6'3 behemoth and another 6'4 behemoth center. Their captain is 5'11 but he's heavier than 95% of forwards in the NHL.

There is no size concern. What if Catton becomes the next Brayden Point ? What do we do then ? MBN becomes Josh Anderson. Was it a good move ? When does it stop being a concern that Catton is below average height wise ?
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It is kind of funny that MB would've got destroyed for drafting for size but because HuGo do it it is genius and essential
 
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montreal said:
I meant to post this yesterday, here's the goal against for Silayev,

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Positional play being taught rather than teaching people to USE YOUR f***ING HEAD.

Right place, if someone was there. Then he stood there like an idiot.

Hopefully for him thats just one of those brain facts people have, otherwise please stay away from this guy.
 
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Kobe Armstrong said:
It is kind of funny that MB would've got destroyed for drafting for size but because HuGo do it it is genius and essential
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Some recent Stanley Cup winners.

Vegas Golden knights 5 of their top 6 scorers in the playoffs were 6 feet or over.

Colorado Avalanche 6 of their top 7 scorers in the playoffs were 6 feet or over.

St Louis Blues 7 of their top 8 scorers in the playoffs were 6 feet or over.

Washington Capitals 7 of their top 7 scorers in the playoffs were 6 feet or over.

So unless you have Hart trophy players like Kucherov, Point, or Crosby, yeah size is essential in the playoffs. Anyone arguing it isn't has no grasp on how to build Stanley cup champion teams.
 
TheBuriedHab said:
Some recent Stanley Cup winners.

Vegas Golden knights 5 of their top 6 scorers in the playoffs were 6 feet or over.

Colorado Avalanche 6 of their top 7 scorers in the playoffs were 6 feet or over.

St Louis Blues 7 of their top 8 scorers in the playoffs were 6 feet or over.

Washington Capitals 7 of their top 7 scorers in the playoffs were 6 feet or over.

So unless you have Hart trophy players like Kucherov, Point, or Crosby, yeah size is essential in the playoffs. Anyone arguing it isn't has no grasp on how to build Stanley cup champion teams.
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This is the same tired nonsense as "Every cup winner but 3 had a top-10 pick playing in their lineup".

Of course, because statistics show that caveat applies to almost every team in the league. Over 6'0 is such a low baseline that it doesn't even need to be taken seriously.

Less than 25% of the league is less than 6'0. So 5 of 6, or 6 of 7 is not a large enough sample to draw any conclusions from, especially when you already threw out half of the eligible cup winning teams because their small players were too good.
 
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Kobe Armstrong said:
It is kind of funny that MB would've got destroyed for drafting for size but because HuGo do it it is genius and essential
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The thinking behind the Slaf pick was in part that it would allow this team to go for a smaller forward. One day
 
Kobe Armstrong said:
This is the same tired nonsense as "Every cup winner but 3 had a top-10 pick playing in their lineup".

Of course, because statistics show that caveat applies to almost every team in the league. Over 6'0 is such a low baseline that it doesn't even need to be taken seriously.

Less than 25% of the league is less than 6'0. So 5 of 6, or 6 of 7 is not a large enough sample to draw any conclusions from, especially when you already threw out half of the eligible cup winning teams because their small players were too good.
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So if less than 25% of the league is less than 6'0 and the Habs have potentially 4 of their top 6 forwards under 6 foot, none of them being elite, don't you think that is a problem?

Like I said smaller players can work if you have Hart trophy level players able to elevate the entire team.
 
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So if less than 25% of the league is less than 6'0 and the Habs have potentially 4 of their top 6 forwards under 6 foot, none of them being elite, don't you think that is a problem?

Like I said smaller players can work if you have Hart trophy level players able to elevate the entire team.
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Am I missing something because it looks to me like Caufield is the only small player in the top-6 long term. Suzuki is stocky AF, injury proof and proven in the playoffs. Newhook I see as the 3LW on a contender. Slaf and Dach are both huge, I think Roy makes it too.
 
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Am I missing something because it looks to me like Caufield is the only small player in the top-6 long term. Suzuki is stocky AF, injury proof and proven in the playoffs. Newhook I see as the 3LW on a contender. Slaf and Dach are both huge, I think Roy makes it too.
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They gave up a first and second rounder for Newhook to play in their top 6 and have said they acquired him to play a top 6 role. If we take another small player he better have high end skill or else he is redundant to what we already have.
 
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Kobe Armstrong said:
Am I missing something because it looks to me like Caufield is the only small player in the top-6 long term. Suzuki is stocky AF, injury proof and proven in the playoffs. Newhook I see as the 3LW on a contender. Slaf and Dach are both huge, I think Roy makes it too.
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Mesar. Probably this pick if they take Demidov or Catton
 
Catton, Tarin Smith and Miettinen are going tonight. Circus as per usual:

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Goldenhands said:
I disagree on your Parekh take. He is a fabulous skater with a very high hockey IQ, for me he is in the same mold as a Kris Letang, about the same size, similar skating and offensive tools. I agree that his D game will probably never be great, but thats still good enough and wont prevent him to play alot of minutes, especially if paired with a strong balanced partner.

I prefer Silayev and Buium to Parekh though, but I could understand those who have Parekh higher since he is just a smooth effortless skater with tremendous offensive talent. Parekh will likely end up as the best points producer defenseman in the draft, but thats a great crop and you have other great defensemen with the potential to impact the game both sides.
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Any of those 3 D would look great as Habs. I love this D crop this year.
 
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SuzukiSZN said:
Give me Demidov and i will be happy forever
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I've always said that 850k and a line bypass to Velvet is the absolute best combination for a new Canadian. Worked for Galchenyuk (56 pts, cocaine addiction) and it can work for Demidov, god damnit.

Can his Dad come too?
 
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