2024 NHL Draft Thread - Upd: Draft Lottery is May 7th

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kmwtrucks

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with Toronto win last night, Tampa is locked in 19-22 along with Nashville, kings, Vegas. they 6 back of TOR with 5 to play. hopefully they start. resting guys. IE if they cannot move up or down is it worth the possibility to get someone hurt.
 

hawksfan50

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Regarding current Hawks team =so many needs and so many talent improvements required.. could take sere drafts till holes filled IF they draft strategically andcwell.

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Last night I saw the Vancouver-Vegas game highlights.

Where do the Hawks have any dman like Quinn Hughes?
..2 booming long range shots from middle of the ice about 5-10 feet in from the Van d-zone blueline...1 of these shots goes past any potential blockers and directly on goal...creates rebound cashed in...the other of these shots goes past potential shot blockers and beats the Vegas goalie ...

No Hawks dman seems to be able to :

I) drag the puck free from any checkers.. get to the high middle and fire cleanly with puck getting through unblocked...
2) it always gets blocked, OR is off net ,Or if ito ccaisionally shoukd get to net ,no rebound cashed is because Hawks pansies are not at net fron to bother opps goalie or force dmen men to be trying to shove them off crease instead of blocking the shooter's long range shot....plus as I said no Haeks dman can move and handle puck away from checkers to be so clear to just fire long range accurate shot at the ops net as Hughes can..

None of this can happen with current Hawks dmen...doubt Levshunov is as adept as getting clear as Hughes is ...the only draft prosoect(s) who can do a Hughes is PAREKH..and maybe FREIJ ..

There is no dimension for these types of goals with the Hawks...they NEED to address it at the draft.

The other glaring weakness Hawks have is losing too many strength battles ...ned that to regain possessions ofv the boards or fighting for loose pucks..Need for more Power... also need a legit 2C threat...is why Lindstrom fits that role

Clearly if Hawksxselectcat #2,no choice Celebrini in the consensuscBPA...Hockey sense and speed and pretty much without more flaws.

But after him the 2 glaring strategic NEeDS must've addressed.

BUT we cannot have both unless the need not filled is still there withvthecTB pick.

So if we draft 2-4 the only 2 options are

Parekh (also coveted right shot RD with more
Hughes-lijecabolity than Levshunov...

Or

Lindstrom = 2 power size+skill 2C need.

Either will play back in Juniors 1 more season before exposure to the shambles Hawks are...


Then :

If we took Parekh ,no Lindstrom typecast sight forc the TB pick...But maybe a Celebrini typex2C in Michael Hage?

I would be happy with a Parekk+Hage haul.

Or if we went Lindstrom then took Left shot (but played all season as a RD) Alfons Freij with the TB pick,again I would be happy.

They could go winger with Demidov at 2-5...but then it woukd be interesting to see which Need gets filled with the TB pick...woukd they pick Hage or Freij?

I doubt they would go 2 wingers with our first and our TB pick.
 

kmwtrucks

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demidov with 2 goals today. 10G and 15 A in 13 playoff games. mnoved on to the finals. he is my pick at 2-4 assuming that is our range. I read a article that top 5 forwards miss rates are much lower then D. He looks to be a élite top 6 wing in the mold of panarin. I think Arytom is a top 4 RD floor due to his size athletic ability and work ethic. drafting top 4 and end up with a 2nd pair RD seems risky. plus with D with so many top 70 picks we can build depth thru out the top 6. IE some D can play up the lineup effectively but its rare forwards and centers can. if we dont end up #1 I want demidov and unless Adam Jirek is avlaible I go forward again with TB pick. then with our 5 picks in the 2nd and early 3rd. go heavy RD. Elick, mews, roberts, badinka, emery, gill, lavioie, brunike, marrelli, kleber. the only one shorter then 6-2 is mews
 
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So its 1. CELEBRINI but I'd we draftat #2?

Demidov =Panarin but much more engaged defensively ...probably not Kucherov who hasxa better shot..

But ifvthey both off they board if as is more likely we draft 3rdvirc4th?

Do you grab a RD there and go Center with TB pick

Or do you go Center with pick #3or#4 and later with the TB pick go dman?

If dman @#3 or#4 Parekh =Quinn Hughesian but a R-shot RD and better defensively than Hughes when Hughesxwaa drafted.. Best goalvscoring dman I draft ..

Or if want Big Powerc 2C ...6"5 210 already ..can drive thru checks win battles.. PzhYSiCAL ..skatesxwekk and scores well..Just scratching the surface.. potetial as fully mature pkayervis enormous.. Makes best compliment to smalk skilked Bedard as 2C to Bedard 1C...very attractive proposition and pro potential ..unlike most Hawks forwards not gonna be pushedxaroubd..

So what do you want at #3or#4 ifcwe draftcthere= game changer pitential 1D game influencer potential for multi-poubts in a game and will be a top goal scorerxamg NHK dmen (=Parekh) or a team structure necessary compliment to Bedard as the thectean should not be alk the same style of just pur still but needs size physicality and a Big presence that cannot be pushed around..

Hawks Need both that type of Center as much as they need an impact multi-poi ts top goal-scoring game breaking dman..but can only takec1 at #3 or#4.

So Celebrin (Ci @1 +Affon,Freij D (left shot but RD) @TB pick

Demidov(RW) a@2 + Michael Hage (C) @TB pick

Parekh(RD) @ #3 or#4 + Michael Hage (C) @TB pick

OR

Lindstrom(C) @ #3 or #4 + Alfons Freij D @ TB pick

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For the 3 2nd rounders :

A) If we did not take Parekh at #3 or#4

Then the strategy should be to draft 2 more RD in round 2 and 1 forward for tgat round.

B) if we did take Parekh at #3 or #4 then go 1 RD in round 2 and 2 more forwards in that round.
So it alk depends on luck of the lottery for land at 1st pr 2nd pick...then the harder choices begin at #3or #4 and with that YB pick...

Round 2 targets need to be calibrated with what we got out of round1.
 

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I don’t scout nor proclaim to be an expert (like some here).
You guys suggest or trash guys and then I go take a look.
It is what turned me on to Levshunov, who I think is the best RHD in the draft.
Up front though, my new favorite is Iginla. Really seems a solid player. Lots of upside and lots about his game to like. I’m not sure if he is worth it at 2-3-4 right now. I could be very happy though if he was the Hawks choice.
 

Kevin Musto

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a little scared of Lindstrom being Kirby Dach situation.
This is why interviews are so important.

Kirby Dach is a whiny baby. He doesn't have that dog in him.

But for us, we lack the insight to know that. We don't really become aware of it until they enter the league and start doing more media appearances and such.

Kyle, to his credit, is all about bringing in competitors and guys with winning attitude. So I trust him to weed out any players that lack drive.

Dach is also made of glass, but no amount of interviews and scouting can really prevent that unless a prospect has a huge history of injuries leading up to the draft which you can analyze.
 

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Curious If Kyle would consider a move down (If we dont win lottery again) . If he does what would a reasonable ask be to slide from 3rd to say 7th overall?
 

Kevin Musto

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Curious If Kyle would consider a move down (If we dont win lottery again) . If he does what would a reasonable ask be to slide from 3rd to say 7th overall?
Generally speaking, I think trading down from 3 is a bad idea.

But if Kyle is hellbent on drafting Dickinson at 3, I wouldn't mind sliding down for more assets just so we can avoid that.
 
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Anaheim wins and goes 6 points up on us. Hawks have 5 games left and Ducks have three. Ducks are gonna win the tiebreakers, so basically we need 7/10 points to pass them and them to lose out.

One more Ducks win and a Hawks loss guarantees the two spot in the draft.
say the ducks lose out in regulation and the Hawks go 3-2-0 with all games decided in regulation. That would tie them in regulation wins, regulation/overtime wins and total wins. Is next tiebreak goal differential? Hawks enter Wednesday -10 behind Anaheim but would presumably close the gap in a hypothetical where they make up six points. So I’ll just say it’s magic number of 5 points between Anaheim picking up points and Hawks dropping points to lock in the second lotto position and guarantee a top four pick.
 

kmwtrucks

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how about this: lets say we are high on demidov and leshinov. IE they are there own tier at 2-3 and SJ gets 2-3 and wants celebrini. would you trade back with SJ, how about pitts # 1 this year would need to be top 13 for me to consider. the option to swap picks in 2025 top 1 protected and 2026 unprotected.

demidov/leshinuv and the ignalia, Yachimik helenuis. for celebrini and more then likely move up 4-5 spots in next years draft or 2026. very hard to move up high in a draft. IE going from 7/8 to 2/3 is difficult
 

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Go big on forwards: Both Lindstrom with the 1st pick and Letourneau with the 2nd 1st round pick. That will bring great balance to future lines. Big, skilled, strong skating forwards don't grow on trees....corner the market, I say!
 

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Go big on forwards: Both Lindstrom with the 1st pick and Letourneau with the 2nd 1st round pick. That will bring great balance to future lines. Big, skilled, strong skating forwards don't grow on trees....corner the market, I say!
I'm not sure I want Letourneau in the 1st. I'd be more comfortable with taking him in the 2nd though
 
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kinda leaning towards Demidov, but I know squat. I really hope our scouting department has sussed out their rankings accurately. particularly, Demidov v Levshunov
 

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I have to go Demidov if we don't win the lottery. Wherever we end up he'll likely be there and I think if the most skilled guy in the draft falls into your lap you shouldn't overthink it.

Also even with the Russian factor I don't see how he's riskier than almost any of these other guys. Catton would be my safe pick, but I feel like everyone else is at least as risky based on one thing or another.

We have a collection of good to great looking role players, and will likely get 1-2 more with the other picks in this draft. Go all in on skill with this first pick.
 
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