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If we are taking a defender with the 2nd first round pick, our options are likely between Jiricek, Badinka, Shuravin, Emery, Kiviharju, Hutson, and maybe Danford. I highly reccomend not going this route because our d prospect pool is stacked already and the only thing we are missing is a true #1 pp defenseman. The only player out of this group that has PP #1 upside is maybe Hutson. Although he is likely a second round pick anyways.

Our prospect pool is in some serious need for bigger forwards. We lack any high profile forwards with size and even if we do hit on some smaller forward picks, it will be very hard to sell them for our needs. We cannot run a top 9 with more than 3 players under 6'0" and Bedard is already locked in as 1 of those 3.

We also have a lot of prospects that have increased in value or are atleast valuable assets under 6'0";

Nazar
Moore
Kantserov
Lardis
 
Castle8130 said:
If we are taking a defender with the 2nd first round pick, our options are likely between Jiricek, Badinka, Shuravin, Emery, Kiviharju, Hutson, and maybe Danford. I highly reccomend not going this route because our d prospect pool is stacked already and the only thing we are missing is a true #1 pp defenseman. The only player out of this group that has PP #1 upside is maybe Hutson. Although he is likely a second round pick anyways.

Our prospect pool is in some serious need for bigger forwards. We lack any high profile forwards with size and even if we do hit on some smaller forward picks, it will be very hard to sell them for our needs. We cannot run a top 9 with more than 3 players under 6'0" and Bedard is already locked in as 1 of those 3.

We also have a lot of prospects that have increased in value or are atleast valuable assets under 6'0";

Nazar
Moore
Kantserov
Lardis
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Don’t forget celebrini
 
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Castle8130 said:
If we are taking a defender with the 2nd first round pick, our options are likely between Jiricek, Badinka, Shuravin, Emery, Kiviharju, Hutson, and maybe Danford. I highly reccomend not going this route because our d prospect pool is stacked already and the only thing we are missing is a true #1 pp defenseman. The only player out of this group that has PP #1 upside is maybe Hutson. Although he is likely a second round pick anyways.

Our prospect pool is in some serious need for bigger forwards. We lack any high profile forwards with size and even if we do hit on some smaller forward picks, it will be very hard to sell them for our needs. We cannot run a top 9 with more than 3 players under 6'0" and Bedard is already locked in as 1 of those 3.

We also have a lot of prospects that have increased in value or are atleast valuable assets under 6'0";

Nazar
Moore
Kantserov
Lardis
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I agree with a lot of this....but we are probably still at a point where we need actual elite level NHL talent regardless of size or shape. Bedard is the only player we can point to that has the appearance of a definate elite NHL player. Our first pick needs to hit as a top line/top pairing player regardless of size or handedness.

While we are probably set for the most part on the D with current prospects, prospects have a nasty habit of turning into suspects and we could really use a higher end RHD prospect as there really is nothing beside Rinzel who looks promising...but suspect until proven otherwise.
 
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u2wojo said:
I agree with a lot of this....but we are probably still at a point where we need actual elite level NHL talent regardless of size or shape. Bedard is the only player we can point to that has the appearance of a definate elite NHL player. Our first pick needs to hit as a top line/top pairing player regardless of size or handedness.

While we are probably set for the most part on the D with current prospects, prospects have a nasty habit of turning into suspects and we could really use a higher end RHD prospect as there really is nothing beside Rinzel who looks promising...but suspect until proven otherwise.
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No doubt. The only smallish forward I'd love to take with our top pick is Demidov. Demidov + Bedard would set aside any question marks about are offense. Put them on a line together and you have two 100 point players. That skill alone should get us into the playoffs. The rest of the line-up needs filling out. We are especially weak at center. I still don't know if Bedard is a center and outside of him, we have no projectable centers. Nazar and Moore will be NHL wings and Ryan Greene is still an unknown.

We can sell Moore/Nazar/Kantserov/Lardis if needed. There isn't any other small forward in the first round that gives me any sense of confidence they will be anything better than what we have. Surin, Hage, and Boilard are the guys I mentioned earlier I like up the middle.
 
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Castle8130 said:
No doubt. The only smallish forward I'd love to take with our top pick is Demidov. Demidov + Bedard would set aside any question marks about are offense. Put them on a line together and you have two 100 point players. That skill alone should get us into the playoffs. The rest of the line-up needs filling out. We are especially weak at center. I still don't know if Bedard is a center and outside of him, we have no projectable centers. Nazar and Moore will be NHL wings and Ryan Greene is still an unknown.

We can sell Moore/Nazar/Kantserov/Lardis if needed. There isn't any other small forward in the first round that gives me any sense of confidence they will be anything better than what we have. Surin, Hage, and Boilard are the guys I mentioned earlier I like up the middle.
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Not sure why Nazar and Moore would be wings
 
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Castle8130 said:
No doubt. The only smallish forward I'd love to take with our top pick is Demidov. Demidov + Bedard would set aside any question marks about are offense. Put them on a line together and you have two 100 point players. That skill alone should get us into the playoffs. The rest of the line-up needs filling out. We are especially weak at center. I still don't know if Bedard is a center and outside of him, we have no projectable centers. Nazar and Moore will be NHL wings and Ryan Greene is still an unknown.

We can sell Moore/Nazar/Kantserov/Lardis if needed. There isn't any other small forward in the first round that gives me any sense of confidence they will be anything better than what we have. Surin, Hage, and Boilard are the guys I mentioned earlier I like up the middle.
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TLEH said:
Im not nearly as interested in Silayev as I was two months ago. The offense is like non existent.
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It looks like he is falling into the donut of Hawk picks, which is fine, LD is the least area of need. Disappointing to not see offense at the MHL Playoff level (sent there once his KHL team got eliminated).
 
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Dekidiv= best puck-hamdlerbin the draft..One scout I heard said he rates him a 10 in puck-handling and he never have anyone a perfectc10/10 i tgat category beforehand alk tye years he has been scouting..so Demidov's skill in that depth. Is almost beyond elite..
However :

1.He has not proven anything agaibst men (yet) ..only in the MJL..still comparing to other draft eligible Russians taken fron the NHL his 2.0 ppg is spectacular..

2.He pkays in a wider bigger euro rink.. thereisctgatvussue..can he still dangle in more confined quarters?


3.Unlike other "offense only "small forwards(P.Kane etc) he actually is committed to a hard work ethic in checking with enthusiasm...too small to ever be "physicsl" but at least willing and not a la,y :cheater" 1 eY guy...so at least there is that good aspect to his game.


4.Like any smaller guy the risk is that junior performance may disappear when confronted with bigger more physical pros banging on them..And so there Always is that worry.

But Beddar dis small...has not stopped his offense But that offense can be limited by not beibg able to get pucks back and get out of own zone because bigger more defensive teans hem in the smaller weaker forwards in their own zone...winiing both battles and posession jostles to gain and re-gain control of the puck.





Sobevthibgs smaller guys just cannot do.

The concern is balance...cannot have too many small guys in top 6 forwards Should have some balance to get more strength to wi puck battles

Thus Bedard +Lardis or Bedard +Nazar on see line may simply get out-muscled and hemmed in own zone ..only offebse coming from occasional 2 ones in transition..but NOT from sustained pressure in o-zobe because they get hemmed in in d-zobe..chase and do not win pucks back.

They need a Hossa to do that ..get those pucks back and then help clear space for them in o-zobe once they get in


You cannot be all smallish skill guys.

That us why Denidov may be wong fot considering smaller forwards Hawks already have coming g .
 
WarriorofTime said:
It looks like he is falling into the donut of Hawk picks, which is fine, LD is the least area of need. Disappointing to not see offense at the MHL Playoff level (sent there once his KHL team got eliminated).
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Yeah I had the game on at work when he played Yaroslavl Monday. He wasn't like bad.. but I would have expected him to try more things and be a bit more aggressive at that level and he just wasn't.
 
My Top 16 probably looks like this now.

Celebrini

Demidov
Catton
Lindstrom
Levshunov
Iginla
Buium
Dickinson
Parekh

Silayev
Helenius
Eiserman
Artamonov
Yakemchuk
Freij
Jiricek

Some order of this after

Greentree
Basha
Emery
MBN
Sennecke
Beaudoin
Leo Sahlin Wallenius
 
Og couse...Colin Graf signs with SJ .

Even the bottom dumpsters grab a top colkege freexagentvproze over the left in the dust Hawks.

KD must know Incle Harybis fixing it again to give CHI Celebrini...else why would anyone bet on the forwatds we have coning to energebintobactualm NHL competent inoact pkayers?

KD either knows the fix is in for us and he will bask I glory agai at the drat or he is making a mistake in over-confidrnce on our forwards fro thebpipeline...That he can afford to no land a top college free agent "freebie" thinking we are too well stocked already is a bad mistake ..You throw as much sh*t on the wall hopingvsonebofbitvwill stick,rather that bet the farm you were agents in all your drafting.

That Hawks got totally skunkedvpm thevgop college free agentscwhem other teams very active and now gloating with their prizes is hard for Hawks fans to take.

The pipeline had better work out for KD..but to not land a colkegectop free agentvproze when so many spots are open for competition next seadon is tgeceoitonevof over -confidence.

Not every one of these prizes landed by other teams will emerge to star of course..butSOME will succeed..It just seems like JD dod not push hard enough to land Ny ofvthe top targets..

Pity!
 
I could toy with Eiserman at 4, not gonna lie. If he scores a zillion goals in the U18s, he can win me over. If you're getting Phil Da Thrill deficiencies and all, you take it at that spot.
 
WarriorofTime said:
I could toy with Eiserman at 4, not gonna lie. If he scores a zillion goals in the U18s, he can win me over. If you're getting Phil Da Thrill deficiencies and all, you take it at that spot.
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Rather go Parekh at 4 and I don't love Parkeh. If I was going to go all in on someone with insane upside I like Parekhs more than Eiserman.
 
Kucherov really screwed up our Lightning pick. Leafs better at least keep them in Wildcard spot down the stretch here.
 
Catton and Iginla are the two guys I continuously come away impressed with. It'll probably be too early for Catton and Iginla won't be there with the Tampa pick.

I don't like scouting off highlight reels so I can't rank Demidov. Levshunov I see more Bogosian than Pronger. I wouldn't feel great taking him. Lindstrom is a man playing children. I think he'll be a good player but again I'd leave feeling meh.
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Catton and Iginla are the two guys I continuously come away impressed with. It'll probably be too early for Catton and Iginla won't be there with the Tampa pick.

I don't like scouting off highlight reels so I can't rank Demidov. Levshunov I see more Bogosian than Pronger. I wouldn't feel great taking him. Lindstrom is a man playing children. I think he'll be a good player but again I'd leave feeling meh.
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TLEH said:
Augustine was unreal for Michigan State. Levshunov was pretty good though. Feel like he's Bogosian and then others he's Cernak.
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