GDT: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

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2. Catton - Smallish, strength and does his game translate (seems like JG type of player but at center??), health

He's unlikely to be at center, but yes I see JG all day when I watch Catton. He's so quick and elusive, can pick a corner or thread a needle pass. He is very inside driven in junior but might become more of a perimeter guy in the pros.

3. Demidov - small, skating style, strength (seems like a KJ type of player), defensive zone awareness

Demidov is a strong kid, he can take a hit and stand up, and he can throw people at times when he hits. And I like his defensive thinking. If you're okay with drafting a dangling winger then there's nothing to worry about with Demidov.

4. Levshunov - defensive decision making (shouldn't this be a strength?)

Jack Johnson 2.0

5. Buium - Physicality, Puck battles(we have this type of player in spades on the current roster)

Who on our roster? His profile is a bit similar to Mateychuk I suppose. But watch him play shutdown D in the NCAA championship game, Buium shut down Smith, Perreault, Gauthier, and Leonard, very convincing defensive play. He might end up our best defensive player. There are a lot of old scouting reports floating around from earlier in the year when Buium was weaker defensively, that's out of date in my opinion.

6. Parekh - Pace (easier to have them slow down then have to kick them in the ass), Defensive Zone Play

Parekh might end up being a great offensive specialist, but I'm pretty sure he will drive me insane if we draft him.
 

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Who on our roster? His profile is a bit similar to Mateychuk I suppose. But watch him play shutdown D in the NCAA championship game, Buium shut down Smith, Perreault, Gauthier, and Leonard, very convincing defensive play. He might end up our best defensive player. There are a lot of old scouting reports floating around from earlier in the year when Buium was weaker defensively, that's out of date in my opinion.
Thank you for the clarification. Always trust your insight and you are indeed correct this was game write ups Oct of last year.
 
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Thank you for the clarification. Always trust your insight and you are indeed correct this was game write ups Oct of last year.

The NCAA championship game is on youtube in high quality here.



Someone cut it down to show some of Buium's shifts, in lower quality though:

 

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I poked around and haven't found any confirmation of that.

His agent put out last week that he was fully participating.



Lindstrom's health

Cayden Lindstrom, who won the Canadian Hockey League's Top Draft Prospect Award, will not participate in all the testing at the combine this week for precautionary reasons after sustaining a back injury in December, according to his agent Daren Hermiston.



"He's going to test on a few of the physical portions of it and there's a couple he's staying away from that he has exemptions on," Hermiston said. "There's a few things we're staying away from for the time being that aren't being advised by his trainers."
 
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Lindstrom's health

Cayden Lindstrom, who won the Canadian Hockey League's Top Draft Prospect Award, will not participate in all the testing at the combine this week for precautionary reasons after sustaining a back injury in December, according to his agent Daren Hermiston.



"He's going to test on a few of the physical portions of it and there's a couple he's staying away from that he has exemptions on," Hermiston said. "There's a few things we're staying away from for the time being that aren't being advised by his trainers."
I would imagine he’s going to fall a good bit .. his back injury was in December .. I know he has 2 drs contending he won’t need surgery , from previous article , but still being limited is worrisome
 
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He's unlikely to be at center, but yes I see JG all day when I watch Catton. He's so quick and elusive, can pick a corner or thread a needle pass. He is very inside driven in junior but might become more of a perimeter guy in the pros.
i think catton's been a bit overscouted since he's been on the radar so long. the production is insane – iirc the only WHL player with more draft year goals is bedard.
Jack Johnson 2.0
depends on which game you watch – levshunov's issue is that he's super inconsistent but when he's on he's insane. like, best defensive draft prospect since dahlin level insane.

that said, i think if you did a scooby doo style pull-the-mask-off with yakemchuk and dickinson you'd find jack johnson underneath.

Who on our roster? His profile is a bit similar to Mateychuk I suppose.
a player being "too similar" to mateychuk (or werenski, as i've seen people claim with buium) should be a green flag, not a red one. those guys are prototypical modern defensemen who control play in all three zones, take the puck away, and keep the puck. there's no reason why they can't have a bunch of those guys on defense.

Parekh might end up being a great offensive specialist, but I'm pretty sure he will drive me insane if we draft him.
i think he has so many translatable elements of his game. he's not just a guy who goes out there and dangles, he creates a ton of nhl-style offense. he's also a lot better defensively than folks realize – he defends with anticipation, mobility and an active stick.

imo it's more likely he becomes a jared spurgeon type defender (small but effective) in the NHL – but with significantly more offensive upside – rather than a deangelo/gostisbehere type who doesn't play defense.

but he'll be frustrating to watch for the same reasons why werenski is sometimes – his body language is really casual. which gives off a false perception of a low effort level.
 

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The 17-year-old right-shot defenseman had surgery and missed the rest of the season but did interview with 28 clubs at the combine this season. He will not take part in any of the testing.

"It's been four months after surgery and it's getting better day by day," Jiricek said. "I hope to come back stronger and right now I'm working out off-ice. I don't want to rush anything because I have a lot of time until next season and I want to be prepared and be 100 percent. I have strict offseason plan in place.

"I think I'll be ready for on-ice work sometime in the summer.

Jiricek, the brother of Columbus Blue Jackets defenseman David Jiricek, will turn 18 on June 28, the first day of the NHL Draft. He said he isn't sure where he will play next season.

"I don't know yet; I'm open to any situation and options will come after (the) draft," he said. "I'll probably know it after the draft."
 

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The 17-year-old right-shot defenseman had surgery and missed the rest of the season but did interview with 28 clubs at the combine this season. He will not take part in any of the testing.

"It's been four months after surgery and it's getting better day by day," Jiricek said. "I hope to come back stronger and right now I'm working out off-ice. I don't want to rush anything because I have a lot of time until next season and I want to be prepared and be 100 percent. I have strict offseason plan in place.

"I think I'll be ready for on-ice work sometime in the summer.

Jiricek, the brother of Columbus Blue Jackets defenseman David Jiricek, will turn 18 on June 28, the first day of the NHL Draft. He said he isn't sure where he will play next season.

"I don't know yet; I'm open to any situation and options will come after (the) draft," he said. "I'll probably know it after the draft."

I appreciate the post, Adam Jiricek is a really interesting case.

Would you mind posting the link or at least mentioning the source? Always a good idea when using a source.
 

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depends on which game you watch – levshunov's issue is that he's super inconsistent but when he's on he's insane. like, best defensive draft prospect since dahlin level insane.

If you have a game video in mind please share it. I have seen about five of his games during the year and then I watched his whole NCAA tournament run.

So far I've found that even some of the games his supporters love, I'm still nervous about the player.

Here's an example that just popped up on my youtube today, from elite prospects top 10 - it has a Levshunov clip I've seen people share a few times. In it I see three bad puck plays where he's just asking opponents to take the puck away. The first is the obvious suicide pass turnover, the next in the middle of the ice, and then the last a few seconds later just inside the zone where this play usually results in a 2 on 1 against.



It is hard to reconcile how bad he looks to me with how good he obviously is - this is clearly the best player on a very good NCAA team.

So is this a case of a player who will be even better (insanely good?) when he learns to make better decisions about positioning and with puck play? Or is it someone who will be much much more limited in the NHL?

There are D in the NHL that would be #1s if they made better decisions. Jack Johnson was one of them. We have a few on our roster now. The league is full of them. There are guys drafted #3 like Jack Johnson and Gudbranson who are powerful and elite skaters. In Johnson's case he was a dominant NCAA player too who scored a lot. But his erratic puck placement and erratic positioning never went away so he wasn't able to take that next step from there.

a player being "too similar" to mateychuk (or werenski, as i've seen people claim with buium) should be a green flag, not a red one. those guys are prototypical modern defensemen who control play in all three zones, take the puck away, and keep the puck. there's no reason why they can't have a bunch of those guys on defense.

It's a green flag for me as well with Buium.

i think he has so many translatable elements of his game. he's not just a guy who goes out there and dangles, he creates a ton of nhl-style offense. he's also a lot better defensively than folks realize – he defends with anticipation, mobility and an active stick.

imo it's more likely he becomes a jared spurgeon type defender (small but effective) in the NHL – but with significantly more offensive upside – rather than a deangelo/gostisbehere type who doesn't play defense.

but he'll be frustrating to watch for the same reasons why werenski is sometimes – his body language is really casual. which gives off a false perception of a low effort level.

Parekh's offense looks very translatable to me. When I say offensive specialist I'm thinking high end - like maybe 60-80 pts. And his defense has been much improved in the playoffs.

But I do think his D game is closer to Gostisbehere than Spurgeon, who was a star defender in his prime. Spurgeon was always a dog on a bone, like a stronger and more refined Blankenburg. He knew how to defend from the beginning. It definitely isn't natural to Parekh. He's trying now and when opponents aren't too big and strong he's okay at it, and that sounds like Gostisbehere to me, who does try.

There's a big possibility Parekh ends up a bit like Adam Boqvist - better offensively than Boqvist but still very limited by his physique. He looks like a player who will be injured a lot. He already struggles when opponents get physical in junior. He has no hope of stopping the cycle with how weak he is on his skates.

The joke about Parekh on the Hawks board is "Parekh is for folks who missed out on the Boqvist ride the first time around".
 

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A question for all you deep dive draftniks? How would you rate the D prospects in terms of physicality and all round play?
 

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A question for all you deep dive draftniks? How would you rate the D prospects in terms of physicality and all round play?

Stian Solberg is your choice if you want physicality. He is ranked all over the place. He might be there for our 2nd round pick. He went surprisingly high in the HF team mock draft.
 
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How do we feel about Helenius as a pick at 4?
I would think he could be an option. Really depends on what CBJ sees long term at #4. There are truly several options and I'm finding a hard time picking one that has been thrown around and saying I would be disappointed with that pick. If I did have one, it would be Iginla. I just don't see the upside and think there are better options with higher ceilings and not terrible risk to hit their floors... I just don't see the attraction to him at #4. Otherwise, I could see any of up to 6-8 guys that could be the pick there. Konsta being one of them.
 
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How do we feel about Helenius as a pick at 4?
personally i'd love it – i think he's gonna be awesome. i know the EP team is a bit lower on his overall upside but some of the anonymous scout quotes are eye-popping. one of the scouts they talked to said "some people i really respect have him ahead of demidov" and another said he's a top five player in the draft.

EP's comp on him is elias lindholm, and iirc pronman's comp is robert thomas. personally i see some trocheck and hischier in his game.

his skating will be NHL above average, and his hockey IQ is elite at both ends of the ice. he's a true 200 foot player who gets knocked for not fitting into preconceived notions of what a top prospect should look like.

most prospects his size get praised for being flashy but knocked for not going to the net or playing well in their own end – he's not flashy but is extremely effective and nails all the details. having a player like that (smart, effective, 200-foot center) can mesh with pretty much any linemate.

celebrini is the obvious #1, but the next three guys on my board (lindstrom, demidov, helenius) are really tightly bunched together in my mind. i'd lean lindstrom assuming the health stuff checks out, but i'd be really, really happy with helenius.
 

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Lindstrom update

Corey Pronman - Some people are still concerned about his back injury. However, the majority of people around the league I’ve talked to think he’s going to make a recovery. The questions they have on him are not as medically focused. They’re making sure they have the hockey player evaluated. Making sure they believe he’s a 1st line center in the NHL. If the draft happened today I think he could still very well be a top 5 pick. Goal is for him to participate in the workouts on Saturday which is a very optimistic sign.

 

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Speaking of D prospects and likely non-1st-round picks, I decided to go and watch some USHL games after reading high praises of Tory Pitner's smarts and upside in other draft threads. He's a 6'1 RD for Youngstown, the team out of which CBJ drafted Whitelaw and Strathmann last year. Doesn't look super strong, physical or really talented offensively but defensive IQ seems high-end. He did a lot of safe and boring plays with puck in the games I saw but I guess consistent all around game makes some people think he could become special one day.

While watching Pitner, I couldn't help but notice how intriguing D prospect Boumedienne's son Sascha will be for 2025 draft. He looks very skinny for 6'2 but is assertive and smart player both with and without the puck. Impressive shot and puck skills as well. Will be exciting to follow his progress once he really starts building muscle. I wouldn't be surprised if he'll be a consensus top-10 pick for 2025 draft after Hlinka-Gretzky Cup.
 

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Stian Solberg is your choice if you want physicality. He is ranked all over the place. He might be there for our 2nd round pick. He went surprisingly high in the HF team mock draft.
I was thinking among the top 6 or 7. I think we need some physicality in our D corp so if we pass on Lindstrom I hope we pick a guy who brings at least some physicality.

In the 2nd round it would be the deciding factor between 2 D-men.
 

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Lindstrom update

Corey Pronman - Some people are still concerned about his back injury. However, the majority of people around the league I’ve talked to think he’s going to make a recovery. The questions they have on him are not as medically focused. They’re making sure they have the hockey player evaluated. Making sure they believe he’s a 1st line center in the NHL. If the draft happened today I think he could still very well be a top 5 pick. Goal is for him to participate in the workouts on Saturday which is a very optimistic sign.


i know pronman's said in the past (in a detracting way) that there aren't a whole lot of players who play center who play the way lindstrom does. but EP's draft guide (which has lindstrom at #3 overall) says he reminds them of roope hintz, which… yeah, i could see that.

i was initially a lindstrom skeptic but he absolutely has all the tools that you look for in a 1C. the athleticism and instincts are off the charts, and he has some really nice soft skill to compliment that. once he cleans up his skating mechanics a little bit and gets more game experience at center, he's going to be a superstar imo.

Stian Solberg is your choice if you want physicality. He is ranked all over the place. He might be there for our 2nd round pick. He went surprisingly high in the HF team mock draft.
i'd be more surprised if he fell past 20 than i would be if he went in the top 15.
 

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