NHL Entry Draft 2024 NHL Draft Talk

[GCK]

I feel like I’m on an island with the Eliasson pick but the agility and mobility look good, he’s very young, aggression is a skill and his timing on hits looks very advanced. I’m really looking forward to seeing how well his reach and mobility translate to an 85’ width. This is definitely a potential home run selection at 39.

Love the Yak, Eliasson and Moore picks.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Comparing Roger and Eliasson is way off the mark. One was based on a glorified 1 week showcase, the other was scouted fully.

My point is you don’t have to draft and wait for third pairing D that like to hit. You find these guys year in year out that can play for your team RIGHT NOW. Not in 5 years.

His skating is fine, people always try & talk like they are experts on skating, when I watch him he gets up & down the ice pretty quickly, he's not Formenton, but he's not Mark Stone either. He's not graceful, he's more likely to run through you than around you although he does have some dangle to his game. Funny when little guys dangle, people get giddy, when a big guy does it they say he won't be able to do that in the NHL & yet we see NHL guys get beat all the time.

They were in a position where there were four defenceman left & while most picked the other guys as better players, I didn't see that & thought they were much closer in talent level than people would give credit for. Yakemchuk had a 30 goal season tying a 10 yr old record in the WHL for defencemen, is that not elite talent? He had a 71 pt season again not bad offensive talent for a defenceman on a terrible offensively challenged team where he had to be the offensive catalyst. And he's not a one trick pony, he hits, he fights, he clears the front of the net & leans on players a lot defensively which is good defensive play wearing out your opponent something smaller players can't do.

Do you think 20 yr olds should be drafting players, guys there own age? Poulin is highly regarded in the NHL or should we be listening to the advise of all the teenaged internet podcasters out there? Is that how we should be running this team by the internet? What are their qualifications for deciding who is an elite skater & who is not?

People seemed to be really happy we signed Poulin & Staois & no more Dorion, it hasn't been one yr & you are already turning on them. I got shit on constantly because people thought I was defending Dorion, now I find myself defending this management team? Who do you want that will satisfy you in management? Keep in mind that it's not just the players who don't want to come to Ottawa but we have already seen a number of coaches don't want to come here either & I suspect in other levels of management.

I turned on the Poulin hiring when it happened. One of the masterminds behind the disastrous 00’s leafs

 

[GCK]

My point is you don’t have to draft and wait for third pairing D that like to hit. You find these guys year in year out that can play for your team RIGHT NOW. Not in 5 years.


I turned on the Poulin hiring when it happened. One of the masterminds behind the disastrous 00’s leafs

Don’t limit a 17 year old kid to 3rd pairing ceiling. He may bust but he may also exceed your expectations.

 

[aragorn]

I turned on the Poulin hiring when it happened. One of the masterminds behind the disastrous 00’s leafs

There have been disasterous masterminds in the Leaf org since after 1967. Who exactly do you want to manage this team? And do you know if they will come here? Are you also against Green the HC? or Bowness the Assit. GM? Is there anyone in this management org you like?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Don’t limit a 17 year old kid to 3rd pairing ceiling. He may bust but he may also exceed your expectations.

Anything is possible. I agree with that.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

There have been disasterous masterminds in the Leaf org since after 1967. Who exactly do you want to manage this team? And do you know if they will come here? Are you also against Green the HC? or Bowness the Assit. GM? Is there anyone in this management org you like?

In my book. Hockey front offices are dumb until proven otherwise. Poulin in his experience has not proven otherwise.

Green I’m willing to give a chance. The more I hear about that Vancouver situation the more I give him the benefit of the doubt. And small sample size.

The GMs are still trying to prove me otherwise.

The scouts I’ve seen enough they can go

 

[The Waffler]

In my book. Hockey front offices are dumb until proven otherwise. Poulin in his experience has not proven otherwise.

Green I’m willing to give a chance. The more I hear about that Vancouver situation the more I give him the benefit of the doubt. And small sample size.

The GMs are still trying to prove me otherwise.

The scouts I’ve seen enough they can go

We have the personnel we have, so why not just hope for the best?

 

[aragorn]

In my book. Hockey front offices are dumb until proven otherwise. Poulin in his experience has not proven otherwise.

Green I’m willing to give a chance. The more I hear about that Vancouver situation the more I give him the benefit of the doubt. And small sample size.

The GMs are still trying to prove me otherwise.

The scouts I’ve seen enough they can go

So ... you got nothing?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

We have the personnel we have, so why not just hope for the best?

I do hope for the best.

So ... you got nothing?

Like in life lol? I don’t understand the questions

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I do hope for the best.


Like in life lol? I don’t understand the questions

He's basically asking you to step outside lol

 

[Burrowsaurus]

He's basically asking you to step outside lol

I’m just not going to crown hockey execs because they got a job.

 

[aragorn]

He's basically asking you to step outside lol

No I'm not, I was asking who he would prefer in the front office. I'm a little too old for that any more.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

No I'm not, I was asking who he would prefer in the front office. I'm a little too old for that any more.

Well Poulin didn’t need to be hired.

But it also doesn’t matter. Like I said. ALL execs are there solely to be fired. What have you done for lately.

Poulin is the only guy I’m like “history tells me he f***ing. Sucks”

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

No I'm not, I was asking who he would prefer in the front office. I'm a little too old for that any more.

I was kidding

 

[DylanSensFan]

We spent our last several 2nd rounders taking flyers on towering defencemen who have no skill or IQ. Why no take a flyer on someone with offensove upside for once in f***ing 4 years?


But we already got a Kleven. We don’t need that many more.

I am not really sure how strong this draft class is. Beyond Cellebrini I don't know of anyone notable that everyone was raving about. But then, I'm not deep into this. I think we got a really great defensive prospect and I am pretty happy with the choice. We need to stock the cupboards with forwards, yes. But, we aren't in a rebuild anymore. We're in the phase where we go all out to make the playoffs for a couple-of-nine seasons. We need to trade for assets, because we aren't going to draft anyone to help push us into the playoffs in the next two years. It would have been nice to trade someone like Branny for a few picks, but clearly he's not that great an asset.

 

[GCK]

@Sens of Anarchy i take it you didn’t like the draft. Without the sarcasm, which I fully appreciate, what were your main issues ?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Don’t know how we could hate on the fourth round. 3 guys with tools two of which took massive leaps this past year and trending up big time.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

@Sens of Anarchy i take it you didn’t like the draft. Without the sarcasm, which I fully appreciate, what were your main issues ?

I did not know much about the guys into the 4th round and beyond and that was most of our draft wrt to number of picks .. so I can't say I did not like most of it lol.

My expectations is this group would be conservative more risk averse with our top 2 picks in the draft.

At 7 taking a D I said before the draft I'd want the best Defensive D available in that range. I wanted Silayev. I would have been fine with Dickinson or Buium. If I wanted to take a risk there I would go with Parekh .. who I think could be a phenom offensively. So that would put Yakemchuk at the end of my top 6 D list. I think he is a wild card kind of prospect. I also liked a small set of forwards.. 2 of which went ahead Sennecke and Iginla of what I expected.... So I was quite disappointed in how 7 worked out for us.

The 2nd round pick I think is also filled with risk which I would have avoided with a more proven prospect at D or F. There were a few I would have taken. The guy the Sens took was not even on my radar. I never heard of him and as I learned about him .,. his size and physicality stand out but so does where he is developmentally .. so to me its too much risk at that point in the draft for that type of prospect to pan out to be the guy you want in 4-5 years..
I could easily have gone with the players taken at 40, 41,42,44, 45, 54, 55,58,59....

So for 2 picks I was disappointed. The rest I can't or won't evaluate comparatively so .. I'm fine with.

Just my own 2 cents no one else has to agree with.

 

[LiseL]

I think you've hit on one nickname (Yak). Could see Eli and Moo being the other 2.

I feel like I’m on an island with the Eliasson pick but the agility and mobility look good, he’s very young, aggression is a skill and his timing on hits looks very advanced. I’m really looking forward to seeing how well his reach and mobility translate to an 85’ width. This is definitely a potential home run selection at 39.

Love the Yak, Eliasson and Moore picks.

 

[bicboi64]

Not impressed with Staios' vision on paper. It seems to be draft as many guys that are tall and fit a meat head mould. It's like skill isn't an attribute anymore since Stu and Sanderson have so much of it.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Not impressed with Staios' vision on paper. It seems to be draft as many guys that are tall and fit a meat head mould. It's like skill isn't an attribute anymore since Stu and Sanderson have so much of it.

I don't think it's Staios' vision so much as the vision of the dinosaurs left over form the Dorion/Mann era.

Staios went extremely hard after Chris Tanev, an extremely smart smooth skating D that had a grand total of 25 hits last year. He then pivoted to the poor man's Tanev in Nick Jensen. Meanwhile our scouting staff puts an insane emphasis on size, toughness and physicality, IQ be damned.

Unfortunately Staios likes to take things slow. Stability was the buzz word that kept getting thrown out earlier this year when everyone and their dog recognized changes had to be made. He needs to replace the scouting staff entirely and it needs to be done ASAP.

They've done a pretty bad job over the past 4 years and it's entirely their fault by focusing on size and toughness to an absurd degree that makes the Burke era Leafs look tame by comparison.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I don't think it's Staios' vision so much as the vision of the dinosaurs left over form the Dorion/Mann era.

Staios went extremely hard after Chris Tanev, an extremely smart smooth skating D that had a grand total of 25 hits last year. He then pivoted to the poor man's Tanev in Nick Jensen. Meanwhile our scouting staff puts an insane emphasis on size, toughness and physicality, IQ be damned.

Unfortunately Staios likes to take things slow. Stability was the buzz word that kept getting thrown out earlier this year when everyone and their dog recognized changes had to be made. He needs to replace the scouting staff entirely and it needs to be done ASAP.

They've done a pretty bad job over the past 4 years and it's entirely their fault by focusing on size and toughness to an absurd degree that makes the Burke era Leafs look tame by comparison.

I thought it was already confirmed this was the last draft for this group? Or maybe it was just a Simmer tweet or something, not exactly confirmation lol.

 

[HSF]

Not impressed with Staios' vision on paper. It seems to be draft as many guys that are tall and fit a meat head mould. It's like skill isn't an attribute anymore since Stu and Sanderson have so much of it.

feels like those brian burke drafts where they wanted truculence and drafted Biggs

 

[bicboi64]

feels like those brian burke drafts where they wanted truculence and drafted Biggs

My leafs friends joke that they drafted Biggs because Burke told the scouts to draft someone big and strong, and the scouts picked Biggs cuz it had the word big in his name.

I don't think it's Staios' vision so much as the vision of the dinosaurs left over form the Dorion/Mann era.

Staios went extremely hard after Chris Tanev, an extremely smart smooth skating D that had a grand total of 25 hits last year. He then pivoted to the poor man's Tanev in Nick Jensen. Meanwhile our scouting staff puts an insane emphasis on size, toughness and physicality, IQ be damned.

Gotta agree here, Jensen isn't a meathead like some of the prospects we've seemed to want. Jensen can play actual NHL defense without resorting to stupidity and the only real 'concern' around him is the acquisition (at least what we gave up for Liver King jr)

 

[CallSaul]

feels like those brian burke drafts where they wanted truculence and drafted Biggs

It's weird how people look at a prospect and just because they're bigger, assume they have no skill.

Yakemchuk has a ton of pure "skill". He's more similar to Parekh than he is to Dickinson or Silayev. The guy can stickhandle in a phone booth, is a wizard with the puck on his stick and can beat goalies clean with his shot.

The question is, will he be able to defend?

But if you're in the camp that wants the team to draft high-risk high-reward offensive talent in the lottery, you should be thrilled because they did exactly that with Yakemchuk.