NHL Entry Draft 2024 NHL Draft Talk

[bert]

I didn't watch the Anaheim game so I'm still on the high of winning I guess.

But they also didn't have Sanderson or Zub. The team is dysfunctional without Zub let alone Sanderson. I'm thinking they can pass Buffalo, Montreal, Arizona and maybe even Washington who are cratering.

They were 8-2-2 or something before the loss and Martin hockey probably has them playing at .550.

Also I'm wondering if you see it but Lev sorta reminds me of Lidstrom.

Smart two way and mobile, great stick and reach, likes putting pucks on net. Steady and doesn't panic too much.

His number 5 and his similar skating posture only heighten it with his play style.

I think they catch Montreal don't see it with AZ, Buffalo or Washington. But maybe I'll be wrong.

I see a very raw player in Levshunov. Don't see Lidstrom. He's so strong and explosive, with an absolute rocket, physical gifts are very elite. He can make some really risky plays but to me that's just a guy growing into an elite skillset. I see some Rob Blake/young Doughty in his game. Better skating Ekbkad maybe. The way he is dominating guys 3 and 4 years older is wild. I think he's got the best physical tools in the draft. I the sens win the lottery I'd think long and hard about him or Celebrini. I have watched celebrini alot more but the game I saw levshunov have against Notre Dame was more dominant than any game I saw from celebrini.

He can make lazy plays at times, and unnecessarily risky plays. But when he competes hard he doesnt lose battles. His shots insane. Rocket snapper and clapper.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

The top-10 of this draft is stacked.
I'd be content with a number of different selections, and would even look to moving up by using the Boston pick.
You just know the Russians are going to slip. Artomanov is can't miss at the 15-20 range.

 

[Tuna99]

Who are they catching exactly? None of the teams that are above them are bad except Montreal who finds a way to get points. With the sens goaltending I don't think they're moving much. They were lucky to beat Columbus and just got spanked by Anaheim and this teams about to lose 4 of its next 5. It's Murderers row on the road. This team is putrid on the road. I don't think they're picking any worse than 6th last unless they move down in the lottery again.

Goaltending is bad, all 3 of them aren’t the real deal, but I dont think the team is going to lose 4 of 5. They will have that focus again, I think their heads were already on the road trip ready for the good teams when they played Anaheim, that and Korpisalo already getting ideas of how his Ottawa Goalie tombstone will be engraved - something like:

“made some nice saves, got paid:
Arrived October 11, 20023 7:05pm
entered Graveyard October 11, 2023 21:41”

 

[Bileur]

Kieron Walton could be a late 2nd early 3rd., possibly later.. We don't have 3rd atm


Make it 3 . A natural hattrick

What about Villeneuve? Superpest from Ottawa?

 

[Tuna99]

The top-10 of this draft is stacked.
I'd be content with a number of different selections, and would even look to moving up by using the Boston pick.
You just know the Russians are going to slip. Artomanov is can't miss at the 15-20 range.

If they had a chance at a true offensive talent at wing - a Marner, Stone, Raantanen - it would also be a really nice move with the top pick. I know they need RD but a scoring W with speed is also high on the list of team needs

 

[ijif]

I know many want a RD, so here is a video of one game from Parekh...

 

[bert]

Goaltending is bad, all 3 of them aren’t the real deal, but I dont think the team is going to lose 4 of 5. They will have that focus again, I think their heads were already on the road trip ready for the good teams when they played Anaheim, that and Korpisalo already getting ideas of how his Ottawa Goalie tombstone will be engraved - something like:

“made some nice saves, got paid:
Arrived October 11, 20023 7:05pm
entered Graveyard October 11, 2023 21:41”

Based on the start of this game they'll be lucky to win one game on this road trip.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

I know many want a RD, so here is a video of one game from Parekh...

he looks like Quinn Hughes

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

he looks like Quinn Hughes

That's the game I watched and commented on above..

He has an excellent processor and vision to find the right play and it looks effortless how quickly he can make the decision and snap the puck on the tape

 

[Cosmix]

yea if it happens great but not gonna hope for it.

also i watched some more recent Lev play and he seems to getting better. and I would take him over Celebrini if we drafted 1 ovr.

even if Celebrini becomes a better player the NHL is about team building and Lev would complete our team and we could probably play him next or the year after.

+ there's a pretty decent chance that Artyom actually becomes a better player than Macklin.

I am hoping to win the lottery for the first or second OA picks; however, I don’t expect it to happen.

If the GM thought it would be better to take the RD, I wonder if the team in second pick would give us a sweetener to obtain our #1 pick for the #2 pick. Could be a smart way to get what we need now plus something else of very good value.

 

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[Sens of Anarchy]

Definitely would not be sad if we drafted Cayden Lindstrom .. (I see him more as a winger but he could play both)

We could use a a LW with his makeup

 

[Wondercarrot]

I am hoping to win the lottery for the first or second OA picks; however, I don’t expect it to happen.

If the GM thought it would be better to take the RD, I wonder if the team in second pick would give us a sweetener to obtain our #1 pick for the #2 pick. Could be a smart way to get what we need now plus something else of very good value.

If we get this first pick there is no f***ing around, you take Celebrini and thank your gods.

 

[DrEasy]

If we get this first pick there is no f***ing around, you take Celebrini and thank your gods.

If Chicago ends up with the first pick again, do they take Celebrini? Or do they address other areas like their D, seeing as they already have Bedard? In that case maybe even picking second behind them might net us Celebrini?

 

[bert]

That's the game I watched and commented on above..

He has an excellent processor and vision to find the right play and it looks effortless how quickly he can make the decision and snap the puck on the tape

What makes Hughes so special is his skating and Edgework. He can close gaps defensively and control pace due to his skating. There's only one of him, I don't think Parehk has the skating. People need to be careful when comparing to Hughes. For example everyone keeps talking about Hutson but he doesn't have the strength and pivoting ability defensively. There's going to be lots of these offensive d men coming but if they don't have the skating and Edgework they will be one dimensional players.

Definitely would not be sad if we drafted Cayden Lindstrom .. (I see him more as a winger but he could play both)

We could use a a LW with his makeup

This team needs an elite RD man. Levshunov has as much upside as anyone in this draft.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

What makes Hughes so special is his skating and Edgework. He can close gaps defensively and control pace due to his skating. There's only one of him, I don't think Parehk has the skating. People need to be careful when comparing to Hughes. For example everyone keeps talking about Hutson but he doesn't have the strength and pivoting ability defensively. There's going to be lots of these offensive d men coming but if they don't have the skating and Edgework they will be one dimensional players.


This team needs an elite RD man. Levshunov has as much upside as anyone in this draft.

A. Not comparing him to Hughes. He is a fun player to watch though. No making proclamations about the draft. He is in the mix to be in the top 10 or close to it. So is Buium another not so big D.

B. The team needs an elite RD. No argument there. Levshunov could very well be the pick if he's available. If he isn't available.. there are other options but as I said I would not be sad if they picked Lindstrom there. To be really clear I never said they should take him over anyone else. Basically saying I like the player. We have to evaluate players and make a list and I don't think they should make a list of 3 RDs ahead of everyone else. He is very consistently ranked as the top RD in the draft and Bob had him at 3 mid season.. HockeyProspect had him at 12; still the highest ranked RD. Movement will happen in the top 10. I have only watched 1 Michigan State game.. and will watch him more. One thing is for sure... The Sens cannot afford to miss with their top pick this year.. given what's happened the last 3 drafts. Still lots of time before the draft. I am staying open for now and will try to catch more games. I think Dickinson and Silayev are worth watching for comparison on how they play in their DY. I watched Dickinson 2 games. I like him. Again I would not be sad if they took him. I want them to pick the best player and am not banging the table for anyone at this point.


What are you basing your eval of Levshunov off? Out of 10 where would you rank his IQ? Out of 10 where would you rank his decision making? How soon would he be ready to contribute as a top 4 RD in the NHL? Does he have top pairing run a PP potential? What kind of role do you see him having?

How far are the Sens away from being a contender say in the top 6 teams in the NHL? To a degree that's another topic but not completely. If they get there who on this roster is going be there?

 

[bert]

A. Not comparing him to Hughes. He is a fun player to watch though. No making proclamations about the draft. He is in the mix to be in the top 10 or close to it. So is Buium another not so big D.

B. The team needs an elite RD. No argument there. Levshunov could very well be the pick if he's available. If he isn't available.. there are other options but as I said I would not be sad if they picked Lindstrom there. To be really clear I never said they should take him over anyone else. Basically saying I like the player. We have to evaluate players and make a list and I don't think they should make a list of 3 RDs ahead of everyone else. He is very consistently ranked as the top RD in the draft and Bob had him at 3 mid season.. HockeyProspect had him at 12; still the highest ranked RD. Movement will happen in the top 10. I have only watched 1 Michigan State game.. and will watch him more. One thing is for sure... The Sens cannot afford to miss with their top pick this year.. given what's happened the last 3 drafts. Still lots of time before the draft. I am staying open for now and will try to catch more games. I think Dickinson and Silayev are worth watching for comparison on how they play in their DY. I watched Dickinson 2 games. I like him. Again I would not be sad if they took him. I want them to pick the best player and am not banging the table for anyone at this point.


What are you basing your eval of Levshunov off? Out of 10 where would you rank his IQ? Out of 10 where would you rank his decision making? How soon would he be ready to contribute as a top 4 RD in the NHL? Does he have top pairing run a PP potential? What kind of role do you see him having?

How far are the Sens away from being a contender say in the top 6 teams in the NHL? To a degree that's another topic but not completely. If they get there who on this roster is going be there?

Sorry didn't mean to single you out. Just have seen alot of people compare these offensive d men to Hughes. My point is they're alot more common now with the way the game as changed, but rarely can they play d at the NHL level very well. I was sold on Hughes when I watched him at the WHC against men before his draft. He was such a phenomenal skater dispite his size he could separate the man from the puck and take it. Which is what makes him such a special player both ways and allows him at this size to defend.

As for paraehk he has tremendous talent I'd love to see him get a shot at the world championship against men to see how his skating handles big fast heavy players.

To me in this draft if it's a tie in terms of where this team rates a player it should go to the RD 10 out of 10 times. Of all the draft eligible the most single game impressive player I have watched is Levshunov. He is a very raw player with extremely elite physical gifts. I think there's a substantial amount of development left in his game though. His accention to top NHL prospect has been steep. From Jr in Belarus which is a weak league to dominating in the NCAA against players that are much older in just 2 years is nothing short of remarkable. He can make some questionable decisions but his instincts are terrific. He won't be able to play such a high risk high reward game in the NHL as his physical tools can't make up for his mistakes. But he seems coachable. There's no doubt he has the physical tools to be a first pp, first pk top pairing every situations d man. I need to watch him more to evaluate his hockey sense. When the raw tools are this strong it can be hard to evaluate, ill be honest there I don't know.

I don't think he's ready for the NHL next year. He's probably 1.5 to 2 years away as a fastest scenario. I'd hope whoever drafts him is patient but it might be hard because he is so fast, strong and can really shoot it. I haven't seen this but I've heard he is inconsistent from an effort standpoint defenisvely. So there's definitely lots more development.

I also like what Yakemchuk brings I'm hoping the sens end up with one of those 2. I've heard that Dickenson doesn't have high end offensive potential but is a guaranteed top 4 guy.

Silayev I haven't watched but heard the tools are extremely elite. I think the sens are gonna get a choice of a very good d man. They're likely picking 5th.

I think the sens are a long way from being a contender.

 

[jhutter]

I am absolutely sold on Arty Levshunov.

 

[BondraTime]

Levshunov or Silayev should be our guys at #2, going by BPA, should be the only guys they’re looking at for that spot.

Demidov is absolutely a lights out player, but I don’t think he’ll be on the radar for a pick in the top 5 for them. A guy like Lindstrom probably slides in ahead for forwards for the Sens.

If you get 1st, you run to the podium for Celebrini.

If you get second, you get very happy you get to run up and take Levshunov or Saliyev. With our need on RD, Levshunov is very hard to pass up at 2.

There are a lot of very good players at the top of the draft, they will be walking away with a good core piece with their 1st, as long as they don’t go on a Sens run to pick 9th or 10th.

I think Buium will be higher on the Sens list than expected has well, think he’ll be among, if not the leader of the 3rd tier of guys around 5-9.

Connolly as well is a guy to look out for, a friend of mine who does some stuff in the league told me some scouts in the rinks in the USHL (have not personally been to a USHL game the his year, this is completely second hand) think he’s up there after Celebrini. Sens are going to be watching him a live an absolute ton. I’d wager Boeser has seen him 10+ times already this year.

 

[Cosmix]

If we get this first pick there is no f***ing around, you take Celebrini and thank your gods.

That is where I am trending too as Celebrini is virtually the consensus first pick of all reputable rating orgs.

Imagine if you could get the second OA pick this 2024 draft and Chicago's first pick in the 2025 draft.

 

[Big Muddy]

Goaltending is bad, all 3 of them aren’t the real deal, but I dont think the team is going to lose 4 of 5. They will have that focus again, I think their heads were already on the road trip ready for the good teams when they played Anaheim, that and Korpisalo already getting ideas of how his Ottawa Goalie tombstone will be engraved - something like:

“made some nice saves, got paid:
Arrived October 11, 20023 7:05pm
entered Graveyard October 11, 2023 21:41”

Even when we went on that 8 - 2 - 2 run we only leap frogged one team I think (Columbus).

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Ran across this guy.. and am listening to this now.


Here is his Sam Dickinson scouting video


Cole Eiserman


Berkly Catton

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Chris Peters Top 10 Ranking

 

[Loach]

What do goalies look like this year? Any sneaky hidden ones maybe?

 

[Dan Patrick]

What do goalies look like this year? Any sneaky hidden ones maybe?

No standouts this year so likely no one taken before mid to end of the 2nd round.