Prospect Info: 2024 Nashville Predators Rookie Camp/Showcase

[Scoresberg]

As for the forwards, Gojsic and Wiesblatt continue to stand out.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

Wiesblatt really doesn't have any impressive attribute on his resume

 

[Scoresberg]

Wiesblatt really doesn't have any impressive attribute on his resume

Yeah, and he is a 2020 pick so he's one of the oldest prospects on the roster. Even so, I think he's been our best forward in this Rookie Camp games (granted, I didn't see the Saturday one).

 

[triggrman]

Yeah, and he is a 2020 pick so he's one of the oldest prospects on the roster. Even so, I think he's been our best forward in this Rookie Camp games (granted, I didn't see the Saturday one).

I don't think he was the most impressive Friday. I'd say he was one of the more impressive.

Straight up for me, Gibson might have been the most impressive but that's likley influenced by lower expectations, and how poised he was for his age.

 

[Scoresberg]

I don't think he was the most impressive Friday. I'd say he was one of the more impressive.

Straight up for me, Gibson might have been the most impressive but that's likley influenced by lower expectations, and how poised he was for his age.

Agree on Gibson, earlier I was only talking about the forward group.

 

[triggrman]

Agree on Gibson, earlier I was only talking about the forward group.

At one point Gibson, while skating on a 2v2 with Molendyk, Gibson pushed Molendyk into the proper position to make a play. I don't know that I've seen that before. The dude was as solid defensively as anyone on the ice during for that game.

 

[herzausstein]

3 overreactions from the Nashville Predators rookie exhibition vs Florida Panthers

In the first game of the Nashville Predators' rookie showcase, Ozzy Wiesblatt and Jakub Milota stood out against the Florida Panthers.

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I like Ozzy's aggressive nature. I think he will fit in with Nashville’s wants. His production jumped considerably in the AHL playoffs. Hopefully there is something to it. The lost years due to covid (2019 season leading to his draft in 2020 and the following season) plus being on bad AHL teams. Maybe he blooms late into a nice Sherwood/Smith replacement for the 4th line.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

At one point Gibson, while skating on a 2v2 with Molendyk, Gibson pushed Molendyk into the proper position to make a play. I don't know that I've seen that before. The dude was as solid defensively as anyone on the ice during for that game.

I love Gibson's defensive game, but thought he was too impatient with the puck today. He needs to make smarter plays to get puck out with possession.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

who scored today?

 

[herzausstein]

who scored today?

Sounds like
Armstrong x2
Lind
Weisblatt
Willis

Predators Conclude Rookie Showcase with 5-4 Win Over Hurricanes | Nashville Predators

Nashville Set to Begin Training Camp on Wednesday, Sept. 18

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[Porter Stoutheart]

I like Ozzy's aggressive nature. I think he will fit in with Nashville’s wants. His production jumped considerably in the AHL playoffs. Hopefully there is something to it. The lost years due to covid (2019 season leading to his draft in 2020 and the following season) plus being on bad AHL teams. Maybe he blooms late into a nice Sherwood/Smith replacement for the 4th line.

It's interesting how Wiesblatt is considered a "real prospect" again now that he's in Nashville, after the 2 wipeout years in San Jose. But you know, he's a former 1st round pick - even if just barely, he was picked ahead of Evangelista for example, and he's still on his final ELC/Waiver Exempt season, still technically a prospect. And then if he's actually going to be a prospect for us where he wasn't for San Jose... maybe he needs to get on our rankings list?

Even a scrappy Cousins/Haula/Sherwood type of guy who is just a scrawny pesky hard worker... maybe that player still fits into our Top 20 prospects now?

 

[ShagDaddy]

At one point Gibson, while skating on a 2v2 with Molendyk, Gibson pushed Molendyk into the proper position to make a play. I don't know that I've seen that before. The dude was as solid defensively as anyone on the ice during for that game.

I think the Gibson/Molendyk pairing is one that will be around for the Predators organization a long time. They’re both very good prospects and their skill sets complement each other very well.

 

[Armourboy]

I think the Gibson/Molendyk pairing is one that will be around for the Predators organization a long time. They’re both very good prospects and their skill sets complement each other very well.

Yeah they mentioned during the game Saturday that they specifically wanted to get those two together in this camp to see how they fit together. Overall it seemed they were pretty happy with what they were seeing from those two together.

 

[herzausstein]

Molendyk/Gibson sounds like a great pairing idea on paper. Glad things seem to be working out at camp. Give them some real time to build chemistry and things could really take off. I like them as a future 2nd pairing with hopefully 1st pairing potential. I think their playstyles will compliment each other well and sometimes that is what makes a really effective pair instead of just individual skills (sum is greater than the parts).

 

[herzausstein]

Main camp starts Thursday:

Tomasino still without a contract. Does he show up?

1st preseason games this Sunday too. Traditional split squad against Florida. So close yet so far

 

[PredsV82]

Main camp starts Thursday:

Tomasino still without a contract. Does he show up?

1st preseason games this Sunday too. Traditional split squad against Florida. So close yet so far

Can he even play without a contract? I'm guessing no

 

[Armourboy]

Can he even play without a contract? I'm guessing no

I think technically he can in camp, but I doubt his agent would let him risk injury without a contract.

 

[herzausstein]

Can he even play without a contract? I'm guessing no

It would be like a PTO i imagine but very risky for him if he were to get injured

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I don't see why Trotz would even give him the time of day to play without a contract. You want to play? Sign. It's not complicated.

If he holds out, with his resume, he's really hurting his own reputation around the league, nothing more. He's not ever going to get any more money out of Trotz than he has already been offered.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

I don't see why Trotz would even give him the time of day to play without a contract. You want to play? Sign. It's not complicated.

If he holds out, with his resume, he's really hurting his own reputation around the league, nothing more. He's not ever going to get any more money out of Trotz than he has already been offered.

He is unsigned. That isn't a holdout. His ask may be unreasonable or Trotz may be squeezing him or some combination, but his situation is the same as Harley and Perfetti and Swayman and Seider and whomever else is still RFA. Only difference is they are better than him and will get more $.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

He is unsigned. That isn't a holdout. His ask may be unreasonable or Trotz may be squeezing him or some combination, but his situation is the same as Harley and Perfetti and Swayman and Seider and whomever else is still RFA. Only difference is they are better than him and will get more $.

"holdouts" in the archaic sense don't exist in the NHL anymore. We know he has been offered a contract, and in his situation even a 2-way QO is reasonable, so refusing to sign is the modern form of "holdout". I don't know what those other RFAs have been offered, they are much better players who can reasonably ask for more than their QOs, so I wouldn't call them holdouts unless I knew they were rejecting reasonable offers from their teams.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

"holdouts" in the archaic sense don't exist in the NHL anymore. We know he has been offered a contract, and in his situation even a 2-way QO is reasonable, so refusing to sign is the modern form of "holdout". I don't know what those other RFAs have been offered, they are much better players who can reasonably ask for more than their QOs, so I wouldn't call them holdouts unless I knew they were rejecting reasonable offers from their teams.

So a holdout is only someone whose ask is more than is reasonable? We don't know what any of the offers are so how do we know which ones are reasonable?

Each of these players are exercising their rights under CBA, just like each of these teams are trying to best manage their cap situations and keep salaries down. There doesn't have to be bad guy here. As Dave Mason said, they just disagree.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

So a holdout is only someone whose ask is more than is reasonable? We don't know what any of the offers are so how do we know which ones are reasonable?

Each of these players are exercising their rights under CBA, just like each of these teams are trying to best manage their cap situations and keep salaries down. There doesn't have to be bad guy here. As Dave Mason said, they just disagree.

I'm not disputing any of that. I'm just providing you with the modern usage of the word, which is the one I've adopted. 20 years ago, it meant something different in the NHL, I agree.