2024 MMA General Discussion and Fight Announcements

[Taytro]

Am I missing something here? This is at most the 7th or 8th best fight on the card. Whatever star power Holm had is long gone and Harrison is not a groundbreaking signing.

As far as women's fights are concerned this is one of the better drawing ones. Holm is over the hill but still a former champ and still marketable, they'll just show the Rousey KO 5 times per event until 300. Harrison is a giant at 135 so I assume they're using Holms remaining marketability to put Harrison over in hopes that she can become champ and once again have some semblance of drawing power at w135.

Personally, it's someone trying to throw someone to the ground vs someone trying not to get thrown to the ground, hoping to see Holm vs Rousey v2.0 and Harrison getting kicked in the chin but I don't think that's going to happen.

 

[m9]

Am I missing something here? This is at most the 7th or 8th best fight on the card. Whatever star power Holm had is long gone and Harrison is not a groundbreaking signing.

I'm kind of somewhere in the middle. It's a good fight but it's down a bit in terms of fights I'm interested in on the card. Most of that is just how good the card is though, Harrison/Holm is better than most Apex main events and will probably be a prelim here.

 

[Moncherry]

As far as women's fights are concerned this is one of the better drawing ones. Holm is over the hill but still a former champ and still marketable, they'll just show the Rousey KO 5 times per event until 300. Harrison is a giant at 135 so I assume they're using Holms remaining marketability to put Harrison over in hopes that she can become champ and once again have some semblance of drawing power at w135.

Personally, it's someone trying to throw someone to the ground vs someone trying not to get thrown to the ground, hoping to see Holm vs Rousey v2.0 and Harrison getting kicked in the chin but I don't think that's going to happen.

Holm is a prelim fighter at this point, and signing Harrison no longer holds the significance it would have had when she was the undefeated PFL champ and Nunes was still around. I don't think this is what should be considered a big announcement for UFC 300. It's still lacking a true main event, and the two title fights are Zhang vs Yan for WSW and another that isn't even for an actual championship.

I'm kind of somewhere in the middle. It's a good fight but it's down a bit in terms of fights I'm interested in on the card. Most of that is just how good the card is though, Harrison/Holm is better than most Apex main events and will probably be a prelim here.

I don't find being better than most Apex main events to be much of a measuring stick, and I don't even think the card is that strong yet either, but that's just me.

 

[m9]

Holm is a prelim fighter at this point, and signing Harrison no longer holds the significance it would have had when she was the undefeated PFL champ and Nunes was still around. I don't think this is what should be considered a big announcement for UFC 300. It's still lacking a true main event, and the two title fights are Zhang vs Yan for WSW and another that isn't even for an actual championship.


I don't find being better than most Apex main events to be much of a measuring stick, and I don't even think the card is that strong yet either, but that's just me.

They could add a lame main event like Belal v Edwards - basically worst-case scenario - and no other fights and it would still be an excellent card and the best the UFC has done in years. I think it's fair to be disappointed that there's no huge main event but it's still a great card.

 

[BGDDYKWL]

Am I missing something here? This is at most the 7th or 8th best fight on the card. Whatever star power Holm had is long gone and Harrison is not a groundbreaking signing.

Fair enough. I'm not saying it's Ngannou vs Fury in the octagon at 300 huge, but who would've been a bigger surprise signing than Kayla? Ronda, Lesnar, GSP, Khabib weren't coming back, and even then, they're all UFC people. Not a whole lot of names outside of the UFC that would move the meter outside of celebrities or someone from the WWE.

Did you just see that vacant 135 championship fight? Yikes. Kayla finishes (or even beats) Holly, it paves the way for a pretty big fight with Nunes.

 

[pistolpete11]

I'm kind of somewhere in the middle. It's a good fight but it's down a bit in terms of fights I'm interested in on the card. Most of that is just how good the card is though, Harrison/Holm is better than most Apex main events and will probably be a prelim here.

Honestly, I think it's a normal PPV main card type of fight. I don't think it moves the needle in terms of PPV buys or anything, but it's an easy and obvious storyline. And yeah, it's almost surely going to be on the prelims for UFC 300.

I'm curious what she looks like against a known commodity like Holm. As I said before, the loss to Pacheco hurt the hype, but I don't know anything about Pacheco. Holm's not what she once was, but I know what to expect from her.

Also, looking at Pacheco's record, her only losses are 2x to Harrison by decision and her only 2 UFC fights against GDR and Andrade. But that was 9-10 years ago. She was 19-20 years old fighting f***ing GDR and Andrade. She also has wins over current UFC ranked BW's Aldana and Rosa in other promotions. I don't know her status with PFL, but it would be cool to see the UFC scoop her up, too.

 

[m9]

Honestly, I think it's a normal PPV main card type of fight. I don't think it moves the needle in terms of PPV buys or anything, but it's an easy and obvious storyline. And yeah, it's almost surely going to be on the prelims for UFC 300.

I'm curious what she looks like against a known commodity like Holm. As I said before, the loss to Pacheco hurt the hype, but I don't know anything about Pacheco. Holm's not what she once was, but I know what to expect from her.

Also, looking at Pacheco's record, her only losses are 2x to Harrison by decision and her only 2 UFC fights against GDR and Andrade. But that was 9-10 years ago. She was 19-20 years old fighting f***ing GDR and Andrade. She also has wins over current UFC ranked BW's Aldana and Rosa in other promotions. I don't know her status with PFL, but it would be cool to see the UFC scoop her up, too.

Pacheco is great and is being completely wasted in PFL. I'd still love her to fight Cyborg.

 

[bov]

Harrison is a big signing. Nobody cares about 135+ since Nunes left. Julianna Pena is insufferable and Pennington isn't a draw at all, although it was cool to see her get the belt.

This could bring some much needed life to the bigger women's divisions, and in time maybe they can land Pacheco and/or Nunes comes out of retirement.

 

[I am not exposed]

They could add a lame main event like Belal v Edwards - basically worst-case scenario - and no other fights and it would still be an excellent card and the best the UFC has done in years. I think it's fair to be disappointed that there's no huge main event but it's still a great card.

UFC299 looks better than UFC300 imo so far. We will see what else they have up their sleeve for UFC300. But the gimmicky BMF belt and now Holm vs. Harrison doesn't do it for me.

 

[m9]

UFC299 looks better than UFC300 imo so far. We will see what else they have up their sleeve for UFC300. But the gimmicky BMF belt and now Holm vs. Harrison doesn't do it for me.

Belt aside, Gaethje/Max is still an awesome fight.

299 is great as well.

 

[I am not exposed]

Belt aside, Gaethje/Max is still an awesome fight.

299 is great as well.

I like both those fighters a lot, but seeing them face off against each other doesn't excite me. Probably because of how Max's last lightweight fight went. The power discrepancy was very noticeable.

 

[pistolpete11]

UFC299 looks better than UFC300 imo so far. We will see what else they have up their sleeve for UFC300. But the gimmicky BMF belt and now Holm vs. Harrison doesn't do it for me.

Saying Holm-Harrison doesn't do it for you is like saying Chookagian-Barber doesn't do it for you. Holm-Harrison is almost surely going to be a prelim fight.

 

[m9]

I like both those fighters a lot, but seeing them face off against each other doesn't excite me. Probably because of how Max's last lightweight fight went. The power discrepancy was very noticeable.

I'm in the same boat in terms of liking both guys but I still think it's a really fun fight.

 

[I am not exposed]

Saying Holm-Harrison doesn't do it for you is like saying Chookagian-Barber doesn't do it for you. Holm-Harrison is almost surely going to be a prelim fight.

Exactly. So why the big fuss on this board for this announcement?

 

[pistolpete11]

Exactly. So why the big fuss on this board for this announcement?

Because for a prelim fight, it's a great addition.

 

[I am not exposed]

Because for a prelim fight, it's a great addition.

Because people were acting like this fight was a HUGE deal. Being the 7th or 8th fight on a PPV doesn't seem that big of a deal for me. When people are typing wow, and huge news, I was expecting something a bit more. Not a women's fight that will be buried on the prelims.

 

[m9]

Exactly. So why the big fuss on this board for this announcement?

I think signing Harrison is the bigger part of the news so it's bigger than the fight itself.

 

[I am not exposed]

Re UFC 300. It is just missing that big headliner. Once they get that, then I think it will be looking really good on paper.

 

[pistolpete11]

Because people were acting like this fight was a HUGE deal. Being the 7th or 8th fight on a PPV doesn't seem that big of a deal for me. When people are typing wow, and huge news, I was expecting something a bit more. Not a women's fight that will be buried on the prelims.

It's surprising news because nobody even knew she was available to sign with the UFC.

It's 7th or 8th on the card because that's how good the card is. If this was on UFC 297, in terms of excitement, this would have been behind only Strickland-DDP. And, yes, I know Pennington-MBS was for the belt in the same weight class.

 

[I am not exposed]

It's surprising news because nobody even knew she was available to sign with the UFC.

It's 7th or 8th on the card because that's how good the card is. If this was on UFC 297, in terms of excitement, this would have been behind only Strickland-DDP. And, yes, I know Pennington-MBS was for the belt in the same weight class.

I'm not talking about the surprising element. I'm talking about people who stated this was a big deal for UFC300. Such as the following:

The Kayla signing helps 300 considerably. Even though she lost some of her draw with the Pacheco loss. Holm is also a name everyone knows. Kayla beats her, Nunes comes back, now we're talking.

It obviously isn't Ronda/Lesnar big, but 300 desperately needed something like this that people weren't expecting.

Shame the Aspinall-Miocic fight didn't materialize, but I can completely understand why Stipe wasn't interested.

When people are going wow, big news for UFC 300, this helps the card a lot, I was expecting a headliner/co-headliner type announcement. Not a fight that will be about 8th on the card.

 

[pistolpete11]

I'm not talking about the surprising element. I'm talking about people who stated this was a big deal for UFC300. Such as the following:

I don't think 1 person overstating it is the same as the entire board talking about it like it's the main/co-main event and the fight that should be compared to UFC 299.

YMMV, I suppose.

 

[BGDDYKWL]

I'm not talking about the surprising element. I'm talking about people who stated this was a big deal for UFC300. Such as the following:



When people are going wow, big news for UFC 300, this helps the card a lot, I was expecting a headliner/co-headliner type announcement. Not a fight that will be about 8th on the card.

Clearly I'm in the minority here so fair enough, but an event like this is helped by news of this nature. Kayla was one of the biggest names outside of the UFC, and no one even knew the UFC signing her was a possibility.

We had no path to a monster headliner for 300 at this point, and we've had a pretty good idea about that for a little bit now. Jones was out, Conor was out, none of the big names were coming back, our only chances were Aspinall-Miocic or Izzy-DDP and those were shot down as well.

This was buzz worthy news that could lead to 135 being relevant again. That's good news to me.

 

[MMC]

 

[m9]

Gotta be honest, kind of strange they are doing this one at 300. It seemed like they were going to do a Brazil PPV in May/June and this would have been a better fit there.

 

[MMC]