2024 Islanders Training Camp

[seafoam]

Only a practice match, but have to be happy with that.
They looked pretty decent
Gauthier showing what he can do. Can he do it more often?
Tsyplakov promising.
Wahly seemed to play pretty good.
Bolduc looks to have developed more.
Maggio showed glimpses. Great goal by Thiesing?
And I know I'll get mocked fot this, but Skarek was solid. I'm pretty sure he didn't concede in preseason last year either. Maybe he's more comfortable with better defence in front of him? Made a nice blocker save late

Gauthier > Wahlstrom FWIW

 

[scottywiper]

Gauthier > Wahlstrom FWIW

Gauthier needs to bring it more often. He looked great tonight but he's never been able to sustain it

 

[Lek]

Gauthier needs to bring it more often. He looked great tonight but he's never been able to sustain it

That is why he will never stay up. If he could sustain, he would be a very serviceable player.

 

[Top Corner]

Wahlstrom is just never going to be what some of us thought he might become. In the framework of being a high first , he has become a bust. It’s time to move on.

I thought Bolduc looked much better yesterday than I have ever seen.

 

[leeroggy]

Thoughts on the game:

First, there are THIRTY pages on the Devils GDT from last night, and about 30 COMMENTS here . . .

Tsyplakov is the real deal. The early turnover did not cause him to lose confidence, and for the rest of the game, he was our best player. He was terrific at puck retrieval and using his body to maintain possession. If he plays with Nelson and Palms, I could see a lot of assists, as he is a much better version of what they asked Engvall to do with those two. If he plays with Barzal/Horvat, I could see him being more of a net-front presence.

Right now, I can see:

Duclair - Barzal - Horvat (no particular position-labeling)
Tsyp - Nelson - Palms
Lee - JGP - Holms
Maclean/Foudy - Casey - Engvall

For once, we have a number of players who would not clear waivers, which means that we might see one surprise trade before the season starts.

Bolduc has clearly sped up his decision-making and looks like he is firmly an NHL-er.

Jeffries and Maggio need to put on a lot more muscle, but for a first game against a number of NJ regulars, they looked promising. Thiesing can rip it. Might be nice to keep those 3 together at Bridgeport.

Pelech looks like he's tired of being cheap-shotted over the years and now has decided it's better to give than receive.

Hogberg should be a serviceable 3rd-string goalie.

The rest was pretty much in line with what to expect.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

The pass by Tsyplakov was big league silky. A golden play in what was very much an initial pre-season game.

Thiesing reminds me of Tanner Fritz.

Skarek.... Keep him in there throughout the preseason, then see a team "steal" him from us for a 6th rounder.

Make it happen, Lou.

 

[scottywiper]

Skarek.... Keep him in there throughout the preseason, then see a team "steal" him from us for a 6th rounder.

Make it happen, Lou.

How dare you!

 

[saintunspecified]

I would give a look with #7 between Barzal and Horvat

He needs to learn how to play defensively on the small ice. I think he's used to passing lanes being wider, and having more time to recover defensively. (Not to mention that the players aren't as good.) I think you can play more of an inside-out defensive game when there's more space, but not in the NHL. He's got to stick tighter to his assignment as opposed to worrying about others' because Dougie Hamilton is gonna eat him up every time if he gives him that kind of leeway.

Those are adjustments that take some time to make. Let's see how he improves over camp.

 

[miscs75]

Right now, I can see:

Duclair - Barzal - Horvat (no particular position-labeling)
Tsyp - Nelson - Palms
Lee - JGP - Holms
Maclean/Foudy - Casey - Engvall

Flip Holmstrom and Tsyplakov. Start him out on the bottom 6 to have him adjust with JGP and learn the details of the NHL a bit first, then bring him up. It also spreads our scoring a bit more. Tsyplakov uses his shot and Lee does Lee things in front of the net while JGP wins all the faceoffs like we’re used to.
As for Holmstrom, I like him in the top 6. He has an active stick and can poke pucks out to Brock who we know has no issue carrying the puck through the neutral zone. Let Palmeri do what he does down low and retrieve pucks.

As for the 4th, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Fasching there over Foudy.

 

[saintunspecified]

Flip Holmstrom and Tsyplakov. Start him out on the bottom 6 to have him adjust with JGP and learn the details of the NHL a bit first, then bring him up. It also spreads our scoring a bit more. Tsyplakov uses his shot and Lee does Lee things in front of the net while JGP wins all the faceoffs like we’re used to.
As for Holmstrom, I like him in the top 6. He has an active stick and can poke pucks out to Brock who we know has no issue carrying the puck through the neutral zone. Let Palmeri do what he does down low and retrieve pucks.

imo Engvall or Duclair have to be with Nelson/Palmieri, or you drop Palmieri down . Somebody has to get the puck through the neutral zone for Nelson and Palmieri. I know Engvall gets it for not producing how he should, but it'll get far more tiring to see the ice tilted against the line consistently.

 

[SI90]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1838261971809951917

 

[miscs75]

imo Engvall or Duclair have to be with Nelson/Palmieri, or you drop Palmieri down . Somebody has to get the puck through the neutral zone for Nelson and Palmieri. I know Engvall gets it for not producing how he should, but it'll get far more tiring to see the ice tilted against the line consistently.

Engvall-Nelson-Palmieri isn’t a bad line and can produce. I’m thinking they start with this up front:
Barzal-Horvat-Duclair (wings can flip here but Mat seemed to like the off wing last season)
Engvall-Nelson-Palmieri
Lee-JGP-Holmstrom
Tsyplakov-Cizikas-Maclean
Martin-Fasching

There’s a lot of guys who can push for a middle six spot in a pinch which is nice. We’re probably going to see the guys fighting for spots get most of the pre season games like: Tsyplakov (mainly for adjustment to the NHL play style), Gauthier, Fasching, Wahlstrom. Roy is going to want to see them bring it and prove to him they want to stays

 

[crashthenet]

Wahlstrom is just never going to be what some of us thought he might become. In the framework of being a high first , he has become a bust. It’s time to move on.

I thought Bolduc looked much better yesterday than I have ever seen.

Bolduc should have been the option last year and not Aho. He looks like an actual. potential NHL defenseman. The guy I remain not sold on is Pelech. He could be exposed this year.

I don't see Wahlstrom moving ahead of Tsyplakov or Holmstrom.

 

[miscs75]

Bolduc should have been the option last year and not Aho. He looks like an actual. potential NHL defenseman. The guy I remain not sold on is Pelech. He could be exposed this year.

I don't see Wahlstrom moving ahead of Tsyplakov or Holmstrom.

Bolduc looked good the more he played last year. He’s going to be solid once he gets consistent playing time.

 

[Throttle]

Bolduc needs to be sheltered and eased in vs being thrown in due to injury. He’ll be fine and solid defenseman in due time.

 

[iggy]

Bolduc needs to be sheltered and eased in vs being thrown in due to injury. He’ll be fine and solid defenseman in due time.

How by sitting on the bench all season?

 

[Lek]

Love Roy....he almost takes a teaching approach to the pressers....the response to one question; "you did a good job you pay attention.".... love it.

 

[Bones45]

Cannabis night!!!

 

[LeapOnOver]

Thoughts on the game:

First, there are THIRTY pages on the Devils GDT from last night, and about 30 COMMENTS here . . .

Tsyplakov is the real deal. The early turnover did not cause him to lose confidence, and for the rest of the game, he was our best player. He was terrific at puck retrieval and using his body to maintain possession. If he plays with Nelson and Palms, I could see a lot of assists, as he is a much better version of what they asked Engvall to do with those two. If he plays with Barzal/Horvat, I could see him being more of a net-front presence.

Right now, I can see:

Duclair - Barzal - Horvat (no particular position-labeling)
Tsyp - Nelson - Palms
Lee - JGP - Holms
Maclean/Foudy - Casey - Engvall

For once, we have a number of players who would not clear waivers, which means that we might see one surprise trade before the season starts.

Bolduc has clearly sped up his decision-making and looks like he is firmly an NHL-er.

Jeffries and Maggio need to put on a lot more muscle, but for a first game against a number of NJ regulars, they looked promising. Thiesing can rip it. Might be nice to keep those 3 together at Bridgeport.

Pelech looks like he's tired of being cheap-shotted over the years and now has decided it's better to give than receive.

Hogberg should be a serviceable 3rd-string goalie.

The rest was pretty much in line with what to expect.

I've been checking out other teams' camp threads in preparation for fantasy hockey season. Pittsburgh already has 40 pages for their training camp. Then I went to Winnipeg and they had a GDT where one post talked about rosters, two or three posts about what they hoped to see from said lineup. Then just a final post - "Well, we won!".

 

[Top Corner]

Bolduc should have been the option last year and not Aho. He looks like an actual. potential NHL defenseman. The guy I remain not sold on is Pelech. He could be exposed this year.

I don't see Wahlstrom moving ahead of Tsyplakov or Holmstrom.

On Bolduc, I think he did little last year to earn more time, I think he thought he was still in an AHL game. Someone mentioned earlier that he looked like he was processing the game faster which are my thoughts as well and hope he continues.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Wouldn’t mind a GDT for these games. Even if it’s nine posts.

 

[Throttle]

How by sitting on the bench all season?

He was forced into playing more than he was ready for due to the injuries on defense. Absent the injuries, he plays a lot less and is in/out of the lineup over the course of the season.

 

[miscs75]

So far we’ve seen 3 players in both games: MacLean, Mayfield, Cholowski. The only regulars not to play yet are Sorokin (injury rehab) and Reilly (assuming minor injury/sick because he didn’t skate on Monday as per Stefan Rosner). On the plus side, Varlamov looked good last night and the 11-13-14 trio was offensively lethal. Mayfield looks substantially better than last year and actually looks capable of playing on the bottom pair again.

 

[JRD76]

Has Odelius played? I was looking forward to seeing how he looks. I don't think he played against Devils. Injured?

 

[seafoam]

Has Odelius played? I was looking forward to seeing how he looks. I don't think he played against Devils. Injured?

I don’t think he’s injured, but they have already played Cholowski twice.

Just based on the depth chart, I’d say the 7D spot is a two horse race between Bolduc and Cholowski (that Bolduc should win), but they are likely using CholoCop to push Bolduc to really force their hand.

I expect Odelius (along with Fulp and Warren) to get a game.