2024 HHOF

[overpass]

Except that 10 year span when he had the most short handed goals in the league as a very strong penalty killer.

Most of Bondra's SHG were scored in the last 30 seconds of the penalty, catching the opposing team off guard. He never scored one in the playoffs when teams were prepared.

 

[GRob83]

Most of Bondra's SHG were scored in the last 30 seconds of the penalty, catching the opposing team off guard. He never scored one in the playoffs when teams were prepared.

By your logic he should have been highly predictable and easy to contain. He still had to beat the goalie so your argument makes no sense. He regularly skated 117-170 minutes a year shorthanded. and that's only since 97/98

 

[Staniowski]

 

[Gorskyontario]

This is a dumb question, but was there an easier 500 goal scorer to shutdown than Peter Bondra? That's a guy who you put out there less in the playoffs...

Pat Verbeek, Dave Andreychuk, Keith Tkachuk.... Maybe Marleau.

playoff ppg

Bondra- .375
Marleau- .375
Andreychuk- .265
Tkachuk-.31
Verbeek- .22

 

[Perfect Human]

Moginly
Osgood
Brind'Amour
Gonchar

Other's thoughts?

 

[Dr John Carlson]

^ Marleau is suddenly starting to look a lot better to me...

 

[MXD]

Moginly
Osgood
Brind'Amour
Gonchar

Other's thoughts?

All of these worst than Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Weber.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Moginly
Osgood
Brind'Amour
Gonchar

Other's thoughts?

Generally, my thought to this is: boooooooooooooooooooo

Osgood? Ugh, yuck...

 

[Nick Hansen]

Satan was really good in his role, also internationally. In a way he was more sneaky than Bondra. Bondra was just so painfully soft. It was funny when he (Bondra) threw that hit on Hasek in the 98 playoffs because it's probably the nicest and most timid cheap shot ever, though Hasek still obviously tried to sell it like murder.

Yeah, Satan always seemed to deliver when he played for Team Slovakia. Definitely a player you remember if you grew up watching the World Hockey Championships during the early-mid 2000's, and not just for the cool name.

Looking through his career, I took a gander at the 2002-2003 WHC. What a great team Slovakia had that year. Palffy, Stumpel, Visnovsky, Satan, Zednik, Nagy, Bondra, Demitra, Svehla... Palffy ended up his career with 30 games and 20 goals for 43 points in the WHC. Such an underrated player to me.

Elite Prospects - WC Stats 2002-2003

2002-2003 regular season player stats for WC, including top goal scorers, most games played, PPG leaders and more.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[Leaf Lander]

Did they announce the hall of fame class yet

 

[jigglysquishy]

Did they announce the hall of fame class yet

The announcement is in a half hour.

 

[jigglysquishy]

The HHOF website actually has a list of eligible (and first-time eligible) players

HHOF | 2024 Induction Eligible Players

The annual meeting of the Selection Committee will be held on June 25 to select and announce the 2024 Hockey Hall of Fame inductees. The selection announcement will be made live on June 24 on TSN5 at 3:30pm EDT.

www.hhof.com

Weber is eligible, Price is not.

 

[jigglysquishy]

Watching live

Builder
Colin Campbell
David Poile

Players
Natalie Darwitz
Pavel Datsyuk
Jeremy Roenick
Shea Weber
Krissy Wendell-Pohl

 

[seventieslord]

all of us are so cynical that we see Marleau as inevitable, so I guess we can take some solace in the fact that they didn't just whisk him straight in there.

 

[jigglysquishy]

The TSN talking heads focusing on Roenick, but talking about how Weber and Datsyuk were "slam dunks"

Kind of surprised to see Zetterberg not in with Datsyuk.

 

[mrhockey193195]

Roenick doesn't lower bar any further than it has been with guys like Nieuwendyk, Carbonneau, Lowe, etc. I'd rather Elias, Fleury, and Mogilny were inducted ahead of him, but that's splitting hairs - in a perfect world none of them make it for me.

Weber is one I hadn't given too much thought before today. My initial reaction was one of surprise, but I'm sure if you asked me in his prime circa 2015 I would have considered him a near lock. I don't think I hate it...

 

[seventieslord]

Daystuk is as obvious as it gets (but so is Zetterberg)
Weber deserved to go straight in.
Roenick was in my list of 20-or-so guys who were obviously better than the 20 worst NHL-era inductees. The kind of guy who, it wouldn't bother me if he was in OR if he was out. So, good for him.

Marleau didn't just get squeezed out by numbers either - they COULD have inducted a 4th and chose not to.

 

[Voight]

Boggles me Carbonneau is in while Lehtinen and Rod are not.

Likewise with Rick Martin still waiting, meanwhile Bill Barber and Steve Shunt have been in for years.

 

[MadLuke]

Marleau didn't just get squeezed out by numbers either - they COULD have inducted a 4th and chose not to.

Which make not pairing Datsyuk with a bit stranger (could they have wanted to make a point of Datsyuk > Zetterberg).

Weber would have been in one day anyway,
Norris: 2-2-3-4-4
727 vs 736 voting pts , may has well say he has one.

07-17, weber his third in points among defenceman, first in goals, prototypical #1D that could help at everything, looked really good in 2010-2014 for team Canada.

Maybe he did not had the defensive value of the Bourque-Pronger-Lidstrom-Chara type at all and could not eat minutes like those (ice-time was moderate and could get gazed by the end of a playoff run when he was up to 27 minutes or so).

But if we talk about who was the best 5 defenseman from 07-17 in the nhl, probably a debate among those 6 of who does not get in the club: Keith-Chara-Suter-Weber-Doughty-Karlsson, Weber seem clearly and cleanly part of that conversation.

Roenick became the player not in the HHOF with the most points once Turgeon got in, and must have been in the conversation before that and has that 500 goals line they love. Was a question of time.

Assuming Kopitar get in quick, that title will be hold by Bernie Nicholls with just 4 pts over Damphousse, maybe that will be where the buck stop for a while (has it is easy to reason Damphousse or Brind'Amour should go in before Nicholls)

 

[pitseleh]

Funny having Weber inducted before (as far as I am aware) he has officially retired.

 

[Ishdul]

Funny having Weber inducted before (as far as I am aware) he has officially retired.

They've done that a few times. The guys who all signed 8+ long contracts that they didn't finish were told to not officially retire as that would cause a cap penalty for their teams. Pronger was still under contract when he was inducted.

 

[MS]

Daystuk is as obvious as it gets (but so is Zetterberg)
Weber deserved to go straight in.
Roenick was in my list of 20-or-so guys who were obviously better than the 20 worst NHL-era inductees. The kind of guy who, it wouldn't bother me if he was in OR if he was out. So, good for him.

Marleau didn't just get squeezed out by numbers either - they COULD have inducted a 4th and chose not to.

It's bizarre not to put Zetterberg in with Datsyuk considering how even and intertwined their careers are.

The Colin Campbell induction actually makes me sick. A guy whose biggest legacy is bullying referees to favour his son's team somehow OBC'ing his way into the HHOF is even worse than the Vernon induction.

 

[sr edler]

Only thing slam dunk about Weber is that he once slam dunked a better player's (Zetterberg's) head into the boards.

 

[Habssince89]

It's bizarre not to put Zetterberg in with Datsyuk considering how even and intertwined their careers are.

The Colin Campbell induction actually makes me sick. A guy whose biggest legacy is bullying referees to favour his son's team somehow OBC'ing his way into the HHOF is even worse than the Vernon induction.

100% bullshit to see Campbell get in. It's been proven beyond a doubt that he's openly corrupt and incompetent. Brutal induction

 

[GMR]

If Zetterberg had a twin, he'd get in before the Sedins.