Prospect Info: 2024 HF Hawks Prospect Rankings - #6

[Blackhawkswincup]

#1 = D Artyom Levshunov (70.4%)
HF Blackhawks #1 Prospect Vote Thread

#2 = C Frank Nazar (91%)
HF Blackhawks #2 Prospect Vote Thread

#3 = C Oliver Moore (62.2%)
HF Blackhawks #3 Prospect Vote Thread

#4 = D Sam Rinzel (62.7%)
HF Blackhawks #4 Prospect Vote Thread

#5 = C Sacha Boisvert (32.5%)
HF Blackhawks #5 Prospect Vote Thread

The #5 vote was first close one with 4 different prospects getting 15 or more votes (Boisvert, EDM, Kantserov and Vanacker) but Sacha Boisvert emerged as the top vote getter

Now onto #6

 

[clydesdale line]

Kantserov again.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Boisvert at #5 is going to age like milk lol

 

[Mrfenn92]

Ryan Greene for me.

Add Ilya Safonov please

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Boisvert at #5 is going to age like milk lol

No kidding, he has no offensive upside

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

No kidding, he has no offensive upside

That's the only upside he has?

 

[Hawkaholic]

EDMs upside is a #4Dman at best.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

EDMs upside is a #4Dman at best.

At best he's Brent Seabrook. It's extremely unlikely but he's got every tool outside of wheels. I didn't vote for Boisvert but at best he's a bigger stronger Max Domi. I just don't understand writing off kids with so many tools.

 

[clydesdale line]

At best he's Brent Seabrook. It's extremely unlikely but he's got every tool outside of wheels.

Eh.. this isn't Rinzel we're talking about here or even Levshunov. EDM is big, mean and has good hockey sense. But he isn't a great skater, his shot is average, his vision on the ice is below average and his passing, although underrated, isn't great especially in transition. I like him but all these tools with him I just don't see.

 

[Malaka]

Boisvert has a good shot. I haven’t seen it live obviously but he is alleged to be a goal scorer. Can people elaborate why they think otherwise?

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Eh.. this isn't Rinzel we're talking about here or even Levshunov. EDM is big, mean and has good hockey sense. But he isn't a great skater, his shot is average, his vision on the ice is below average and his passing, although underrated, isn't great especially in transition. I like him but all these tools with him I just don't see.

He's a slightly above average skater who doesn't have a bomb of a shot but he can wire it with decent vision. On tools alone he isn't Rinzel but on tools alone Rinzel has more upside than anybody not named Bedard.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Boisvert has a good shot. I haven’t seen it live obviously but he is alleged to be a goal scorer. Can people elaborate why they think otherwise?

He's got a ++ shot. He's a much meaner much dumber version of Strome.

 

[clydesdale line]

He's a slightly above average skater who doesn't have a bomb of a shot but he can wire it with decent vision. On tools alone he isn't Rinzel but on tools alone Rinzel has more upside than anybody not named Bedard.

Well that goes without saying and that's my point. I can understand the Boisvert votes. EDM though, I just can't unless you just rather vote on the floor of a player.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I also don't think Boisvert plays in the NHL as a center. He tries he's just stupid.

 

[Kevin Musto]

He's got a ++ shot. He's a much meaner much dumber version of Strome.

Strome without the IQ and playmaking is a complete and total bust

That's literally what defines him

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Well that goes without saying and that's my point. I can understand the Boisvert votes. EDM though, I just can't unless you just rather vote on the floor of a player.

I don't think you're giving his frame iq and mentality enough credit.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Strome without the IQ and playmaking is a complete and total bust

That's literally what defines him

Strome is incredibly talented but he's incredibly soft Boisvert isn't and he's got a great shot good hands and good vision. He's also a much better skater.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Like a bigger Max Domi is a good pick at eighteen. He doesn't have that innate psycho that being Tie's kid gives you but when you're that much bigger and stronger it's something. Boisvert has good hands and he's really creative. I get not liking him but saying he doesn't have offensive upside is flat out wrong.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Like a bigger Max Domi is a good pick at eighteen. He doesn't have that innate psycho that being Tie's kid gives you but when you're that much bigger and stronger it's something. Boisvert has good hands and he's really creative. I get not liking him but saying he doesn't have offensive upside is flat out wrong.

What kind of offensive upside are you seeing? Top 6 production?

I think there's 3rd line scoring potential, but nothing more.

For me it's gimped by the fact that he has no motor or consistency, and I've never once seen him successfully pull off the dangles or 1 v 3 situations he puts himself in.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

What kind of offensive upside are you seeing? Top 6 production?

I think there's 3rd line scoring potential, but nothing more.

For me it's gimped by the fact that he has no motor or consistency, and I've never once seen him successfully pull off the dangles or 1 v 3 situations he puts himself in.

He definitely has a motor. The stupid not working at higher levels is an argument I can definitely get behind. I don't see a ton of upside but a 20/20 guy with an edge I can very easily see.

 

[Bubba88]

Del Mastro, Vanacker next.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I don't see a ton of upside but a 20/20 guy with an edge I can very easily see.

That's fair.

But you won't see me getting excited over drafting Richard Panik at 18th overall, when there were better selections to make.

 

[Bubba88]

He definitely has a motor. The stupid not working at higher levels is an argument I can definitely get behind. I don't see a ton of upside but a 20/20 guy with an edge I can very easily see.

I think he can reach this while having that one great season nobody knows why and everything is working out perfect for him.

I like his chances and upside to make it and be a solid middle-6 guy.

 

[clydesdale line]

Like a bigger Max Domi is a good pick at eighteen. He doesn't have that innate psycho that being Tie's kid gives you but when you're that much bigger and stronger it's something.

His dad was a kick boxing and taekwondo champion and the kid boxes himself and shows a "don't f*** with me" streak on the ice. Trust me, he's plenty psycho.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I’m definitely curious what the scouting report on Vlasic from some was before he broke out last year. I seem to remember several questions about his skating as well as his ability to move the puck.

If EDM comes into camp and has improved his skating a bit more, it’ll be hard to deny him. You’d ideally want to pair him with a puck transitioner anyways since his speciality is to shutdown the opposition, even if he has improved in other facets of the game.