Prospect Info: 2024 Entry Draft Thread - Let's Talk About Picks, Bay-bee

[KingsHockey24]

Okay fine give me Igor Chernyshov.

 

[Docgonzo]

Whats the scouting report on him ? Ive seen several people hype him up but looking at his stats what pops out is first of all his height at 6’6 and penalty minutes at 103 in the Swedish minor league to boot .

From what I’ve read
Pros: big, mean, solid skater for size.
Cons: needs to think game better.

He probably won’t last that long due to potential but he doesn’t seem like a bad 3rd or 4th round pick.

 

[King'sPawn]

LA Kings Predictions for 2024 NHL Draft

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Hoven's draft predictions.

Tl;dr version (with some of my own assumptions):
- Kaliyev gone
- Fagemo a possibility out if a deal's there. Would be nice to get a 5th or something for Roy's rights
- Don't expect them to trade up
- if they trade a pick for a player, they're more likely to offer up their 2025 first than this year's.
- Likely list of top candidates (putting them in tiers based on Yannetti speaking of tiers and with how Hoven presented some of the info in the article::

Solberg/Letourneau/Luchanko/Greentree look like the most likely candidates.

But if they get extra picks/trade back, they also seem to be interested in Brandsegg-Nygard, Boisvert, Emery, Parascak, Beaudoin, Hage

IMO, all things being equal, I think they'd target Solberg first. There seems to be a lot more forwards in the mix - so if they can get a high-end defenseman, I'd assume they'd use that rationale. It's similar to when they picked Bjornfot.

 

[bland]

Have fun!

Only time I went was when it was in LA. We sat right in front of Charlie Coyle. And we were at an angle to see what name placard was grabbed before the name was announced. So my buddy spoiled it to Coyle beforehand that San Jose was going to pick him.

Poor kid was so confused, as he didn't know how we knew.

I also wished I thought to stop my buddy. I didn't consider it may have ruined the moment for Coyle.

Mark Pysyk's Dad asked me to take a picture of his family right outside of Trader Vics that night, kid was still wearing his Sabres jersey and hat

 

[King'sPawn]

Mark Pysyk's Dad asked me to take a picture of his family right outside of Trader Vics that night, kid was still wearing his Sabres jersey and hat

That's awesome!

 

[kinghock]

LA Kings Predictions for 2024 NHL Draft

mayorsmanor.com

Hoven's draft predictions.

Tl;dr version (with some of my own assumptions):
- Kaliyev gone
- Fagemo a possibility out if a deal's there. Would be nice to get a 5th or something for Roy's rights
- Don't expect them to trade up
- if they trade a pick for a player, they're more likely to offer up their 2025 first than this year's.
- Likely list of top candidates (putting them in tiers based on Yannetti speaking of tiers and with how Hoven presented some of the info in the article::

Solberg/Letourneau/Luchanko/Greentree look like the most likely candidates.

But if they get extra picks/trade back, they also seem to be interested in Brandsegg-Nygard, Boisvert, Emery, Parascak, Beaudoin, Hage

IMO, all things being equal, I think they'd target Solberg first. There seems to be a lot more forwards in the mix - so if they can get a high-end defenseman, I'd assume they'd use that rationale. It's similar to when they picked Bjornfot.

I think out of 4 main Kings draft candidates (Greentree, Letourneau, Solberg and Luchanko) only Letourneau will be available…

 

[kings11]

Re: EJ Emery.

Not my fave at #21 OA....mainly due to better high end talent that should be at 21.
And the fact EJ does not have much of an offensive game, although moves pucks out of the zone well.

That said, Faber didn't have much of an offensive game, either in the NTDP

EJ's stats last few years. The plus 15 at U18 is tied with defenseman Hutson and next highest defenseman was 7....they must have been paired and were dynamic. Although it was Hutson, putting up 13 pts! Would love LHD Hutson in rd 2 or 3, if the Kings could get a pick.

2022-23	U.S. National U17 Team	NTDP	60	2	10	12	28	-
	USNTDP Juniors	USHL	39	1	8	9	22	9	Playoffs	3	0	1	1	0	1
	USA U17	WHC-17	7	1	1	2	4	-
2023-24	U.S. National U18 Team	NTDP	61	0	16	16	61	34
	USNTDP Juniors	USHL	27	0	6	6	30	5
	USA U18	WJC-18	7	0	6	6	0	15

NOW...Faber's last 2 yrs with NTDP

2018-19	USNTDP Juniors	USHL	35	3	7	10	8	-11	Playoffs	2	0	0	0	0	-2
	U.S. National U17 Team	NTDP	56	3	12	15	14	-
	U.S. National U18 Team	NTDP	1	0	0	0	2	-
	USA U17	WHC-17	5	0	2	2	4	-
2019-20	USNTDP Juniors	USHL	19	1	8	9	8	10
	U.S. National U18 Team	NTDP	46	3	9	12	16

Conclusion. Faber is #1 PP and will be putting up 40+ points for 12+ years.
This does not mean that Emery will emerge into a 30+ point defenseman, but he may well
develop offense, over the next few years at North Dakota. Just a thought.

Also consider Emery may end up being 6'4" 210 and can really skate, has acute IQ defensively and really adept at shutting down in his zone. I'm down, if they take him at 21....but still prefer Hage or Luchanko at 21.

EJ is similar to Alex Vlasic

 

[AnThGrt]

LA Kings Predictions for 2024 NHL Draft

mayorsmanor.com

Hoven's draft predictions.

Tl;dr version (with some of my own assumptions):
- Kaliyev gone
- Fagemo a possibility out if a deal's there. Would be nice to get a 5th or something for Roy's rights
- Don't expect them to trade up
- if they trade a pick for a player, they're more likely to offer up their 2025 first than this year's.
- Likely list of top candidates (putting them in tiers based on Yannetti speaking of tiers and with how Hoven presented some of the info in the article::

Solberg/Letourneau/Luchanko/Greentree look like the most likely candidates.

But if they get extra picks/trade back, they also seem to be interested in Brandsegg-Nygard, Boisvert, Emery, Parascak, Beaudoin, Hage

IMO, all things being equal, I think they'd target Solberg first. There seems to be a lot more forwards in the mix - so if they can get a high-end defenseman, I'd assume they'd use that rationale. It's similar to when they picked Bjornfot.

I think out of 4 main Kings draft candidates (Greentree, Letourneau, Solberg and Luchanko) only Letourneau will be available…

I think there is a decent-high chance at least two of those 4 are available. Most likely, the first two.

Celebrini, Demidov, Buium, Yakemchuk, Parekh, Iginla, Sennecke, Catton, Levshyunov, Silayev, Lindstrom, Dickinson, and Helenius will be 100% gone in no particular order. After that Nygard seems to be everywhere ranked around #15 so 90% to be gone. After that it is extremely tough to know how the next picks go.

The following six could include any mix of: Luchanko, Hage, Greentree, Solberg, Jiricek, Chernyshkov, Boisvert, Beaudoin, Eiserman, Connelly, etc. Usually always an outlier or two also in there.

 

[Statto]

Re: EJ Emery.

Not my fave at #21 OA....mainly due to better high end talent that should be at 21.
And the fact EJ does not have much of an offensive game, although moves pucks out of the zone well.

That said, Faber didn't have much of an offensive game, either in the NTDP

EJ's stats last few years. The plus 15 at U18 is tied with defenseman Hutson and next highest defenseman was 7....they must have been paired and were dynamic. Although it was Hutson, putting up 13 pts! Would love LHD Hutson in rd 2 or 3, if the Kings could get a pick.

2022-23	U.S. National U17 Team	NTDP	60	2	10	12	28	-
	USNTDP Juniors	USHL	39	1	8	9	22	9	Playoffs	3	0	1	1	0	1
	USA U17	WHC-17	7	1	1	2	4	-
2023-24	U.S. National U18 Team	NTDP	61	0	16	16	61	34
	USNTDP Juniors	USHL	27	0	6	6	30	5
	USA U18	WJC-18	7	0	6	6	0	15

NOW...Faber's last 2 yrs with NTDP

2018-19	USNTDP Juniors	USHL	35	3	7	10	8	-11	Playoffs	2	0	0	0	0	-2
	U.S. National U17 Team	NTDP	56	3	12	15	14	-
	U.S. National U18 Team	NTDP	1	0	0	0	2	-
	USA U17	WHC-17	5	0	2	2	4	-
2019-20	USNTDP Juniors	USHL	19	1	8	9	8	10
	U.S. National U18 Team	NTDP	46	3	9	12	16

Conclusion. Faber is #1 PP and will be putting up 40+ points for 12+ years.
This does not mean that Emery will emerge into a 30+ point defenseman, but he may well
develop offense, over the next few years at North Dakota. Just a thought.

Also consider Emery may end up being 6'4" 210 and can really skate, has acute IQ defensively and really adept at shutting down in his zone. I'm down, if they take him at 21....but still prefer Hage or Luchanko at 21.

I like Emery and he has a pretty high floor for what he is and I think we are picking in the correct range for him. I like Hage but know a little less about him, but from what I have learned there are flaws in his game but most of them are coachable ones. So for me he has a slightly lower floor but a much higher ceiling. He’d be my first choice between the two but it’s close. Luchanko, I like what I’ve read but haven’t had time to watch him.

 

[Schrute farms]

As a borderline playoff team, there is no way a team should allow Blake to trade next years #1. During the season at the TDL if they have proven to be a top Cup contender and are at/near the top of the division, then sure it's on the table. But now -- NFW.

 

[SmytheKing]

LA Kings Predictions for 2024 NHL Draft

mayorsmanor.com

Hoven's draft predictions.

Tl;dr version (with some of my own assumptions):
- Kaliyev gone
- Fagemo a possibility out if a deal's there. Would be nice to get a 5th or something for Roy's rights
- Don't expect them to trade up
- if they trade a pick for a player, they're more likely to offer up their 2025 first than this year's.
- Likely list of top candidates (putting them in tiers based on Yannetti speaking of tiers and with how Hoven presented some of the info in the article::

Solberg/Letourneau/Luchanko/Greentree look like the most likely candidates.

But if they get extra picks/trade back, they also seem to be interested in Brandsegg-Nygard, Boisvert, Emery, Parascak, Beaudoin, Hage

IMO, all things being equal, I think they'd target Solberg first. There seems to be a lot more forwards in the mix - so if they can get a high-end defenseman, I'd assume they'd use that rationale. It's similar to when they picked Bjornfot.

I really do like seeing Nabokov's name in that list. I know it's by no means the official target list, but you know he's heard at least some chatter. Sure do wish Shuravin was in there as well but it is what it is.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Letourneau has fallen hard this year, I wouldn't use a first on him, as big as I was on him before

 

[kovacro]

I'd be quite happy if Greentree fell to the Kings. Fits the bill as to what this team needs going forward.

Not overly confident he falls outside the top 20.

 

[King'sPawn]

I really do like seeing Nabokov's name in that list. I know it's by no means the official target list, but you know he's heard at least some chatter. Sure do wish Shuravin was in there as well but it is what it is.

Yeah, Hoven's generally as skeptical about the Kings drafting Russians as me. And while sometimes I'll message him "hey, have you heard the Kings associated with this guy?" Nabokov was completely independent.

There were only two in the middle/late list I asked about. He does his homework and calls around. So, him having this extensive list is more telling to me.

FWIW, while there's reason to believe this list is reliable, it's not all-inclusive. I bring this up, because even though Shuravin isn't on our list as a possible candidate, it doesn't mean the Kings lack interest. Just that we have reasons to believe the players listed above are on the Kings radar.

Letourneau has fallen hard this year, I wouldn't use a first on him, as big as I was on him before

I was disappointed in seeing Letourneau listed that high. Always wary of people bullying lesser competition, but you know, it worked out for Makar.

Greentree is one of those high-skill forwards with urgency issues, not too different from Kaliyev; that worries me. But I'm pretty sure I've compared him to Carter - he worked out.

So I'm hoping for Solberg or Luchanko, based off of this list. Of course, I'll obviously root for whoever they take and hope for growth.

 

[SmytheKing]

Yeah, Hoven's generally as skeptical about the Kings drafting Russians as me. And while sometimes I'll message him "hey, have you heard the Kings associated with this guy?" Nabokov was completely independent.

There were only two in the middle/late list I asked about. He does his homework and calls around. So, him having this extensive list is more telling to me.

FWIW, while there's reason to believe this list is reliable, it's not all-inclusive. I bring this up, because even though Shuravin isn't on our list as a possible candidate, it doesn't mean the Kings lack interest. Just that we have reasons to believe the players listed above are on the Kings radar.


I was disappointed in seeing Letourneau listed that high. Always wary of people bullying lesser competition, but you know, it worked out for Makar.

Greentree is one of those high-skill forwards with urgency issues, not too different from Kaliyev; that worries me. But I'm pretty sure I've compared him to Carter - he worked out.

So I'm hoping for Solberg or Luchanko, based off of this list. Of course, I'll obviously root for whoever they take and hope for growth.

While Shuravin certainly fits the "worry" profile for Russians and the Kings, Nabakov seems like less of a worry just because of his age. Less development needed for him, and he would definitely fit a timeline of 1-2 years for the Kings better that an 18-year old defenseman.

Appreciate all your insight this time of year KP.

 

[Lt Dan]

So I'm hoping for Solberg or Luchanko

Me too Scooby-Doo!

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Hoping the Kings can do something like this and land a 2nd by trading down.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806387039006347647

 

[bland]

Hoping the Kings can do something like this and land a 2nd by trading down.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806387039006347647

Odd deal to make before the draft not knowing who will be available, unless it's part of a larger trade for Buffalo.

 

[kinghock]

Yeah, Hoven's generally as skeptical about the Kings drafting Russians as me. And while sometimes I'll message him "hey, have you heard the Kings associated with this guy?" Nabokov was completely independent.

There were only two in the middle/late list I asked about. He does his homework and calls around. So, him having this extensive list is more telling to me.

FWIW, while there's reason to believe this list is reliable, it's not all-inclusive. I bring this up, because even though Shuravin isn't on our list as a possible candidate, it doesn't mean the Kings lack interest. Just that we have reasons to believe the players listed above are on the Kings radar.


I was disappointed in seeing Letourneau listed that high. Always wary of people bullying lesser competition, but you know, it worked out for Makar.

Greentree is one of those high-skill forwards with urgency issues, not too different from Kaliyev; that worries me. But I'm pretty sure I've compared him to Carter - he worked out.

So I'm hoping for Solberg or Luchanko, based off of this list. Of course, I'll obviously root for whoever they take and hope for growth.

Kings Of The Podcast: Ep. 196 – Mark Seidel, NHL Draft Preview

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[RayMartyniukTotems]

Odd deal to make before the draft not knowing who will be available, unless it's part of a larger trade for Buffalo.

I think the Sharks want to reunite Celebrini and Eiserman and have Cole falling to around this territory...meaning the 11th overall