2024 Draft

[Rob Sense]

A first round pick to drop 4 spots.
No. Not even remotely.

Another one coming in peace....but I think the cost to move up is higher than you think and 28 seems fair to get the guy you want at #5. What are the chances that #28 pans out? I would think that the price is a prospect instead of a late pick.

 

[Fig]

Another one coming in peace....but I think the cost to move up is higher than you think and 28 seems fair to get the guy you want at #5. What are the chances that #28 pans out? I would think that the price is a prospect instead of a late pick.

Give it a rest.

Trading a 5 year old minivan and a 15 year old sports car for a brand new Tesla SUV is probably a fair deal too. But it does not make sense for a family of 4 where both parents have to take turns to drive from different work locations to pick up and drop off their kids.

Fundamentally, adding assets to go from 9 to 5 is not something the Flames are considering.

Could the 15 year old sports car stop working leaving the family with a single vehicle that's older than if they traded? Sure. Does the Tesla offer benefits that the other two cannot offer at all? Yep. But the family automatically has to work around an undesirable revised schedule if they make the trade.

Stop asking about the idea of the Flames trading up with Montreal.

 

[User1996]

Another one coming in peace....but I think the cost to move up is higher than you think and 28 seems fair to get the guy you want at #5. What are the chances that #28 pans out? I would think that the price is a prospect instead of a late pick.

While we’re talking about odds - what are the odds the player you get at 9, has as good, or better of a career as the player you get at 5? Especially this year considering the variance in rankings in that range. Probably pretty good. So how is that jump worth 28?

I feel like there’s a hope among Habs fans that they can extort the Flames because of Iginla. And that’s spilled onto our board multiple times at this point, for which we always give the same answer.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Another one coming in peace....but I think the cost to move up is higher than you think and 28 seems fair to get the guy you want at #5. What are the chances that #28 pans out? I would think that the price is a prospect instead of a late pick.

There’s a really easy way to put this, the same reason Montreal fans are so keen on trading down and collecting assets for it is the same reason Flames fan don’t want to trade up.

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Habs fans need to leave in peace. They are starting to piss me off.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I'll offer it again, #28 in 2024 will be a better pick than Florida's pick in 2025. Sign off on that pick as being the Sean Monahan compensation and everyone is happy.

 

[Flamesfan62]

Another one coming in peace....but I think the cost to move up is higher than you think and 28 seems fair to get the guy you want at #5. What are the chances that #28 pans out? I would think that the price is a prospect instead of a late pick.

Value wise it’s fair. But it still makes no sense for Calgary. Unless Demidov falls to 5 the calibre of player will be very similar at 5 and 9.

 

[DomBarr]

Another one coming in peace....but I think the cost to move up is higher than you think and 28 seems fair to get the guy you want at #5. What are the chances that #28 pans out? I would think that the price is a prospect instead of a late pick.

Go way in peace as well. The only reason Habs fans are coming on this board is because Iginla.
In some drafts maybe the cost will be higher than that but not this one its been clear in all the draft write ups that 4 to 10 are almost interchangeable and there is a decent chance that the player the Flames would take at 5 will be there at 9 since this is a d heavy draft. The last thing Calgary should be doing when retooling and rebuilding their prospect pool is to overpay either by giving up a prospect or a 1st to move up 4 spots.

 

[Kranix]

I just want conroy to pull off markstrom for 10. He has to.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Craig’s List: Tij Iginla, Cole Eiserman rise in final ranking | TSN

The rise of Kelowna Rockets star Tij Iginla this season has been remarkable in the eyes of TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button.

www.tsn.ca

Always interesting to see what Tod's brother thinks, since they often think alike.

Iginla at 3 though?

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Craig’s List: Tij Iginla, Cole Eiserman rise in final ranking | TSN

The rise of Kelowna Rockets star Tij Iginla this season has been remarkable in the eyes of TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button.

www.tsn.ca

Always interesting to see what Tod's brother thinks, since they often think alike.

Iginla at 3 though?

I’d be surprised if he did go 3. But I do believe Tig will be one of the best players from this draft. The defensemen at the top are very enticing and should push some forwards down. But I trust Craig a lot. My brother and I were with him at a tournament in Bonnyville when Cale Makar was playing there. This was before Makar was being noticed. He told us to keep our eyes on him and suggested he’d be a top 5 pick well before anyone else was talking about him. I’ve actually known Craig since I was a teenager and he was GM of the Flames. He has always been an excellent scout and I’ve always enjoyed listening to him talk hockey prospects.

 

[Body Checker]

Seems to change weekly for me of who might be available at 9 that would be a bit of a surprise. This week I’m thinking Parekh is there and that we take him. Next week I’m sure it’ll be someone different lol

 

[User1996]

Button seems like a guy that puts out his list exactly how he sees it. I can’t help but think many “experts” put out lists are heavily influenced by other lists - creating some sort of false consensus.

Of course there are massive hits and incredible misses, but kudos for publishing his opinion.

I’m just finalizing my 1-32, and working on 33-96 and the amount of straying from the consensus reminded me of Button’s lists a little bit.

 

[Qubax]

I wonder how close the below would be:

9th Calgary
50% retained Mangiapane
62nd Dallas

For

5th Montreal

I think Conny and Jarome would love to get Tij. And I don't love our chances at 9

 

[Khrox]

I wonder how close the below would be:

9th Calgary
50% retained Mangiapane
62nd Dallas

For

5th Montreal

I think Conny and Jarome would love to get Tij. And I don't love our chances at 9

Absolutely not. Given the fact that from about 4-10 there isn't a huge difference on quality of player, moving up 4 spots to get a guy of similar value, and giving up other assets in the process just doesn't appeal to me

 

[Lunatik]

Button seems like a guy that puts out his list exactly how he sees it. I can’t help but think many “experts” put out lists are heavily influenced by other lists - creating some sort of false consensus.

Of course there are massive hits and incredible misses, but kudos for publishing his opinion.

I’m just finalizing my 1-32, and working on 33-96 and the amount of straying from the consensus reminded me of Button’s lists a little bit.

It could also be the difference between straight up rankings and people taking into account who a team in that position may draft.

 

[Volica]

I wonder how close the below would be:

9th Calgary
50% retained Mangiapane
62nd Dallas

For

5th Montreal

I think Conny and Jarome would love to get Tij. And I don't love our chances at 9

The Dallas pick is a hard no for me. Also holding on Mangi when we already just burnt a spot.

 

[Body Checker]

I would like Teddy Stiga or Cole Beaudoin with our 28th pick. I really want to be a tough team to play against.

 

[User1996]

I would like Teddy Stiga or Cole Beaudoin with our 28th pick. I really want to be a tough team to play against.

I wouldn’t describe Stiga as a “hard to play against” type from a traditional standpoint. The skill and speed make him hard to play against, but I don’t see a super physical presence there or anything.

 

[stats1]

I wonder how close the below would be:

9th Calgary
50% retained Mangiapane
62nd Dallas

For

5th Montreal

I think Conny and Jarome would love to get Tij. And I don't love our chances at 9

Leaf fan here. You guys should just trade Mangiapane for picks not including him to move up. Keep stockpiling the picks. You guys have 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 2 thirds, 2 fourths plus your other picks. Stockpile for 2025

 

[Double Dion]

I just want Catton at 9. I think he's gone before then, but he's so clearly the best WHLer in this draft. I haven't seen the guys in other leagues to really comment, but I question the hockey acumen of anyone who has seen Tij and Catton play who thinks Tij is better.

I think we better study the Russian contingent for picks 28 onward. We've been heavily scouting Russia and I think we're going there heavily this draft.

 

[Fig]

I wonder how close the below would be:

9th Calgary
50% retained Mangiapane
62nd Dallas

For

5th Montreal

I think Conny and Jarome would love to get Tij. And I don't love our chances at 9

I'd rather trade out of this year's draft with the 9OA pick than trade up.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

I just want Catton at 9. I think he's gone before then, but he's so clearly the best WHLer in this draft. I haven't seen the guys in other leagues to really comment, but I question the hockey acumen of anyone who has seen Tij and Catton play who thinks Tij is better.

I think we better study the Russian contingent for picks 28 onward. We've been heavily scouting Russia and I think we're going there heavily this draft.

I could for sure see us looking hard at Artamanov, Surin & Shurivan.
Despite that mock draft, I don't see Chernyshov dropping to 28.

 

[Fig]

I could for sure see us looking hard at Artamanov, Surin & Shurivan.
Despite that mock draft, I don't see Chernyshov dropping to 28.

Sounds like it will be a Dallas otter/Robertson home run draft of he does.

 

[Double Dion]

I could for sure see us looking hard at Artamanov, Surin & Shurivan.
Despite that mock draft, I don't see Chernyshov dropping to 28.

I think we could be looking to Russia in all rounds. I'm betting we see 2 to 4 picks from there when all rounds are over.