2024 DRAFT 9th Overall Zayne Parekh

[Mobiandi]

So why not send him to the Wranglers so he's at least eligible for their playoffs?

He’s already eligible for the Wranglers because he had an NHL contract before the deadline

 

[Kingpin794]

He’s already eligible for the Wranglers because he had an NHL contract before the deadline

Ok. Didn't know how that worked. Wasn't sure if they had to do a send down on paper to make him eligible.

 

[MrLunatik]

Ok. Didn't know how that worked. Wasn't sure if they had to do a send down on paper to make him eligible.

This was something several of us just learned. I thought he'd be ineligible too, but Ryan Pike is saying that because he was signed before the deadline and was in the CHL he's eligible... where as Suniev is not eligible because he signed (for this year) after the deadline, but had he signed starting next year and then signed an ATO he could have joined the Wranglers too.

 

[Some Other Flame]

The thing with Kulak is that he is a 2nd chance player. Every single team lets these kind of guys go, just to see them figure it out somewhere else. He was a late bloomer, it's the exact same risk Calgary took with Miromanov and Pachal. Hell it was the same risk we took with Jake Bean. Look at Carter Verhaeghe, or Jalen Chatfield.

What, no he wasn't. He was a solid homegrown defenceman that was given away because Treliving threw a tantrum over his contract.

Bean was given away from the Hurricanes then went unqualified by the Blue Jackets. This is his 3rd chance and he's unsurprisingly still rubbish. Miromanov & Pachel, sure 2nd chances but again, that's the fear based inferiority complex from the Flames. Other teams trash is gold and worthy of a chance while the Flames own prospects are always never good enough.

But this isn't about 2nd chances, it's about primary chances

 

[Felidae]

Really wanna see him play before the season ends..

Try him out on the 1st PP Unit considering the joke that was the Anaheim game. Shelter him heavily in EV.

 

[crazyfisherman]

I think its fine to not play zayne if you dont think hes good enough, its not fine to think the guys in the room got us this far we ride with them. Got us far where? 4 pts out of the playoff spot? we should not be showing loyalties to worse players rn, it better be the first reason.

 

[Iggys Dome]

Put him in the last 5 games, heavily sheltered. Let him and the team see what he needs to work on over the summer in real time. 10-15 mins a night on the third pairing and some PP time.

We’re not making the playoffs, let’s see what Parekh is made of.

 

[Volica]

Loss tonight means Zayne will play through.
Win tonight, he'll be on the sidelines until they're out. Don't kill the messenger guys.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Flames are run by cowards, same as always

 

[super6646]

Loss tonight means Zayne will play through.
Win tonight, he'll be on the sidelines until they're out. Don't kill the messenger guys.

What we all expected. Safety dance safe team till the end. All for a 5% chance at playoffs.

Disappointing, but it is what it is. Best not to get upset when you can’t control it.

 

[Mobiandi]

Yeah it’s clear Huska’s feeling the pressure of securing an extension this summer. It will probably be the same story next year

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

What, no he wasn't. He was a solid homegrown defenceman that was given away because Treliving threw a tantrum over his contract.

Bean was given away from the Hurricanes then went unqualified by the Blue Jackets. This is his 3rd chance and he's unsurprisingly still rubbish. Miromanov & Pachel, sure 2nd chances but again, that's the fear based inferiority complex from the Flames. Other teams trash is gold and worthy of a chance while the Flames own prospects are always never good enough.

But this isn't about 2nd chances, it's about primary chances

I feel like you didn't read what I said at all. Your whole argument is how Kulak has turned out. Yeah he's a decent #5, so what? Yes he's made an NHL career post Calgary but he's still just a guy. Did Tre mess that up? Maybe, but in the grand scheme of things it's irrelevant. You are complaining about the Flames blocking their prospects by signing vets. Solo will get an NHL shot but at the end of the day he is still just a guy. This isn't like Parekh playing another year in the OHL where he's far too good for the league. Solo is not "too good for the AHL," he's simply improved to the point where he deserves a shot at the NHL level ( which I have no problem with), but he hasn't done anything to prove he is better than the guys who are currently on the NHL roster in his stead We had 2 legitimate NHL defensemen going into this season, and a bunch of other guys still in their mid 20's we gave shots to. Bahl has been great and earned a top 4 role, Pachal has been solid, Miromanov completely fell off from how he was at the end of last year, and Bean has been hit or miss depending on the night. Solo got a shot and was very mediocre in his stint.

The rules of the league are you can simply only hold onto a players rights for so long, every team has had players that went elsewhere and succeeded. You are just so fixated on the Flames ones you can't see the forest for the trees. Literally just click on any team's roster. Colorado has Toews and Nichushkin, New jersey has Cotter and Kovacevic, LA has Trevor Moore, Dallas has Sam Steel, Toronto has Benoit, Washington has Strome and Thompson, etc

 

[Master Bill]

I get why they are so reluctant to put him in the lineup but sometimes it takes a fresh injection of youth to spark a team that has recently been stale and inconsistent.

It's disappointing to see this team continuing to be overly cautious and undervalue the youth in the system. It happened with Zary and Posp not making the team out of camp last year, and they are only NHL regulars today because of injuries to other players. Two seasons ago they could've done something about Markstrom shitting the bed by giving Wolf a ride to try to make the playoffs but they didn't want to rush him. Andersson only became a full-time NHLer because Hamonic got injured early that season.

I get he's a D-man and everything but seriously what do you lose in sheltering him in the 3rd pair with Pachal and giving him PP time? The idea that it'll ruin his development if he makes a mistake and costs the team is overblown. If he's the type of player to bust after something like that then he's going to bust regardless, but fortunately he seems the type of person to use it as motivation to get better.

 

[super6646]

I get why they are so reluctant to put him in the lineup but sometimes it takes a fresh injection of youth to spark a team that has recently been stale and inconsistent.

It's disappointing to see this team continuing to be overly cautious and undervalue the youth in the system. It happened with Zary and Posp not making the team out of camp last year, and they are only NHL regulars today because of injuries to other players. Two seasons ago they could've done something about Markstrom shitting the bed by giving Wolf a ride to try to make the playoffs but they didn't want to rush him. Andersson only became a full-time NHLer because Hamonic got injured early that season.

I get he's a D-man and everything but seriously what do you lose in sheltering him in the 3rd pair with Pachal and giving him PP time? The idea that it'll ruin his development if he makes a mistake and costs the team is overblown. If he's the type of player to bust after something like that then he's going to bust regardless, but fortunately he seems the type of person to use it as motivation to get better.

You gotta go with the guys that got you here…

To 9th place.

 

[Bounces R Way]

As a fan I just wish they'd have put him in, I feel like the best players should play. Ice time according to ability and performance, two things our blueline has clearly been lacking all year. Ultimately it's not the end of the world that Parekh doesn't play in this game against the Minnesota Wild on April 11th, 2025. Just wish this franchise could let go of their love affair with character 'good in the room' plugs and commit to believing in their amateur scouting.

 

[Yepthatsme]

I get why they are so reluctant to put him in the lineup but sometimes it takes a fresh injection of youth to spark a team that has recently been stale and inconsistent.

It's disappointing to see this team continuing to be overly cautious and undervalue the youth in the system. It happened with Zary and Posp not making the team out of camp last year, and they are only NHL regulars today because of injuries to other players. Two seasons ago they could've done something about Markstrom shitting the bed by giving Wolf a ride to try to make the playoffs but they didn't want to rush him. Andersson only became a full-time NHLer because Hamonic got injured early that season.

I get he's a D-man and everything but seriously what do you lose in sheltering him in the 3rd pair with Pachal and giving him PP time? The idea that it'll ruin his development if he makes a mistake and costs the team is overblown. If he's the type of player to bust after something like that then he's going to bust regardless, but fortunately he seems the type of person to use it as motivation to get better.

Calgary has 2 regulation losses in our last 13 games, with one being highway robbery and the other being the last of 3 games in 4 nights. In what world has this team went stale, they are playing their hearts out to make the playoffs at what would be a 120 point pace over a full season.

People see what they want to see.

 

[Master Bill]

Calgary has 2 regulation losses in our last 13 games, with one being highway robbery and the other being the last of 3 games in 4 nights. In what world has this team went stale, they are playing their hearts out to make the playoffs at what would be a 120 point pace over a full season.

People see what they want to see.

Not questioning the team's effort at all, and my comment was directed more at their offensive inconsistencies in the recent stretch. Going even further than the last 13 games, since March 1 we've been a top 10 team and #1 PK% but 27th in GF/G and 22nd in PP%. You can't deny this team recently looked stale offensively and has been most of the season. During this recent stretch I've seen too many momentum-killing moments from failed PPs because we don't have a true PP quarterback.

Minnesota's planning to put Buium right into the lineup because they need a spark and believe he is ready for the challenge. In the meanwhile, during what's considered the most important stretch for this team, Bean and Pachal have been bottom 5 in ice time alongside the 4th line. Taking Bean out for Parekh is not going to affect this team negatively nor affect his development.

 

[viper0220]

One thing Wonder is why did Parekh did not go the NCAA route?

 

[Yepthatsme]

Not questioning the team's effort at all, and my comment was directed more at their offensive inconsistencies in the recent stretch. Going even further than the last 13 games, since March 1 we've been a top 10 team and #1 PK% but 27th in GF/G and 22nd in PP%. You can't deny this team recently looked stale offensively and has been most of the season. During this recent stretch I've seen too many momentum-killing moments from failed PPs because we don't have a true PP quarterback.

Minnesota's planning to put Buium right into the lineup because they need a spark and believe he is ready for the challenge. In the meanwhile, during what's considered the most important stretch for this team, Bean and Pachal have been bottom 5 in ice time alongside the 4th line. Taking Bean out for Parekh is not going to affect this team negatively nor affect his development.

Buium is a lot more developed defensively than Parekh, and has played against older competition the previous 2 seasons in the NCAA. He is a lot more prepared to step into and play meaningful minutes in the NHL. I’m pretty sure the entire consensus around here is that everyone wishes Parekh would be eligible to play AHL next season since that would be his ideal league, he is not nearly as ready as some other prospects it’s just his potential is sky high.

I’m not saying they’re all his fault, but Parekh just finished an OHL series where he stood on the ice for 17 goals against across 5 games. The amount of levels of play he is about to jump from that hockey to the playoff style games happening in the NHL is crazy. Put him in if we are eliminated, but I don’t want Parekh’s first taste of NHL action potentially ending the Flames season and the impact that could have on his development.

 

[MrLunatik]

Buium is a lot more developed defensively than Parekh, and has played against older competition the previous 2 seasons in the NCAA. He is a lot more prepared to step into and play meaningful minutes in the NHL. I’m pretty sure the entire consensus around here is that everyone wishes Parekh would be eligible to play AHL next season since that would be his ideal league, he is not nearly as ready as some other prospects it’s just his potential is sky high.

I’m not saying they’re all his fault, but Parekh just finished an OHL series where he stood on the ice for 17 goals across 5 games. The amount of levels of play he is about to jump from that hockey to the playoff style games happening in the NHL is crazy. Put him in if we are eliminated, but I don’t want Parekh’s first taste of NHL action potentially ending the Flames season and the impact that could have on his development.

also the Wild don't have to win that last game, they just need to go to OT or have us or STL to lose once (and the odds of that are pretty good)

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

One thing Wonder is why did Parekh did not go the NCAA route?

He signed his ELC last year after the draft. nCAA wasn't an option then

 

[Some Other Flame]

Jake Bean who's was a regular healthy scratch all season is now too important to be taken out of the lineup. Even though he's barely playing and is still quite trash.

Hilarious

Also, Suniev's been playing against the vaunted NCAA and its superior opponents. Oh and he's is the magical age of 20. Wonder why he's not in the lineup either?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Jake Bean who's was a regular healthy scratch all season is now too important to be taken out of the lineup. Even though he's barely playing and is still quite trash.

Hilarious

Also, Suniev's been playing against the vaunted NCAA and its superior opponents. Oh and he's is the magical age of 20. Wonder why he's not in the lineup either?

There's a major difference when you are trying to chase a near impossible feat vs being comfortably in a playoff spot or already eliminated. Other teams like St. Louis and Minnesota likely aren't particularly worried about us catching them and can afford to let their young guys play. Whereas we are hanging on for dear life. It is entirely possible Zayne has a rookie season similar to Hutson next year, but that comes with it's risks. Last year when Montreal brought Hutson in for the last 2 games he had 2 points but was also -2 and they lost both games in extra time. Then this year he had 7 points but was -4 by the end of October. People were calling Montreal the worst team in the league by the end of November because they were 8/12/3. That's a .413 winning percentage. Now I'm not saying it's Hutson's fault or anything but you have to weigh the risk vs reward. If we bring Zayne in and he goes -4 resulting in the end of our season there will be uproar. That could have a massive effect on his career here. The team sees him as a major part of the future, I highly doubt they see Bean that same way.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Jake Bean who's was a regular healthy scratch all season is now too important to be taken out of the lineup. Even though he's barely playing and is still quite trash.

Hilarious

Also, Suniev's been playing against the vaunted NCAA and its superior opponents. Oh and he's is the magical age of 20. Wonder why he's not in the lineup either?

Coronato had almost identical numbers in his draft +2 as Suniev. Coronato would then go on to have 9 points in 34 games the next season whenever he wasn’t crushing the AHL. Coronato now has 24 goals another year later and is looking amazing.

Can we please just understand that age mostly means laneway for development time, and even special, insanely talented kids are most likely bad NHLers at 19/20 until they get said time to get stronger/faster/better? Amazing numbers in inferior leagues don’t mean they are this talented now, it means they are very ahead of the curve while still having plenty of room to grow. Suniev has more issues than Coronato did for how his game would translate, and Parekh wasn’t exactly shutting down junior kids. These guys just need time, even if they did put up a point or two down the stretch they’d likely just be liabilities now even if they both have varying great potential.

But sure, let’s risk ruining a kids confidence because their mistake helped end the Flame’s season and that’s all they get to think about for the next 5 months, all because HFboards things younger is synonymous with better. Parekh himself admits it was humbling seeing he didn’t belong on the ice with guys like Petterson and Hughes in the pre-season when they were likely mailing it in, that was all of 6 months ago.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Jake Bean who's was a regular healthy scratch all season is now too important to be taken out of the lineup. Even though he's barely playing and is still quite trash.

Hilarious

Also, Suniev's been playing against the vaunted NCAA and its superior opponents. Oh and he's is the magical age of 20. Wonder why he's not in the lineup either?

Bean has, surprisingly, not played like complete ass the past 4-5 games.

These are the guys winning hockey games right now. It’ll be the same lineup Tuesday.