Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[Redux91]

We're just as guilty. It was great to use the 2nd to move up and take Hage. But we should have also gotten an early 2nd and taken Cole.

But what do we need Cole Hutson for exactly!

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

And what the blue hell do we need Cole Hutson for exactly...?

It’s decorative.

Seriously though, kid looks awesome. Imagine if he were an RD.

 

[Kennerback]

And what the blue hell do we need Cole Hutson for exactly...?

It’s like Cooley, get more of what we already have and don’t need.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

It’s like Cooley, get more of what we already have and don’t need.

It’s unfortunate there aren’t enough spots for him. He looks like he’ll be a mini me of his brother.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

We're just as guilty. It was great to use the 2nd to move up and take Hage. But we should have also gotten an early 2nd and taken Cole.

Cole's father quite clearly stated that he didn't think Cole and Lane should be on the same team as they would only impede on the others ceiling. There was zero chance that Hughes was going to select Cole and put him in a spot where Lane had the role that he expects to play unless Cole somehow fell to a spot where he would have had to take him.....that was not going to happen and did not happen.

DemiLane

We got our assistman. And we got our sniper.

Nchallah they'll play together.

Nchallah they'll score goals together.

And nchallah they'll win together.

Can't wait for this moment!

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Demidov: Look at my little american friend, I am bigger but he has bigger head and arms like orangutan. I like!!!

 

[26Mats]

Cole's father quite clearly stated that he didn't think Cole and Lane should be on the same team as they would only impede on the others ceiling. There was zero chance that Hughes was going to select Cole and put him in a spot where Lane had the role that he expects to play unless Cole somehow fell to a spot where he would have had to take him.....that was not going to happen and did not happen.



Demidov: Look at my little american friend, I am bigger but he has bigger head and arms like orangutan. I like!!!

But what do we need Cole Hutson for exactly!

I don't know if it would have stunted Cole or Lane's potential. For sure I could see that point.

Sometimes if you bring a lot of good players together, it's a good thing.

 

[Kennerback]

I don't know if it would have stunted Cole or Lane's potential. For sure I could see that point.

Sometimes if you bring a lot of good players together, it's a good thing.

The only point of having Cole and Lane is to go brag on the main board that we have Cole and Lane. It doesn't make us better. It creates other problems.

 

[dcyhabs]

It’s unfortunate there aren’t enough spots for him. He looks like he’ll be a mini me of his brother.

A mini me only bigger, I think? Well, slightly bigger, 1 inch, 10 pounds, and he's still got some time.

 

[HespelerGreenFlash]

Im sorry I thought I was in the Demidov thread. Ill go look for it

 

[26Mats]

The only point of having Cole and Lane is to go brag on the main board that we have Cole and Lane. It doesn't make us better. It creates other problems.

Having Lane and Cole versus what we would have had to give up to get the 2nd to take Cole sounds like a good problem to me.

 

[Kennerback]

Having Lane and Cole versus what we would have had to give up to get the 2nd to take Cole sounds like a good problem to me.

There’s different philosophies to building a team, I’m not a proponent of having a fivesome of Caufield, Cooley, Michkov, Lane and Cole and the rest of the team waiver pickups, 2nd rate UFAs and AHLers. There’s such thing as too much of a good thing.

 

[26Mats]

There’s different philosophies to building a team, I’m not a proponent of having a fivesome of Caufield, Cooley, Michkov, Lane and Cole and the rest of the team waiver pickups, 2nd rate UFAs and AHLers. There’s such thing as too much of a good thing.

Trading for an extra 2nd would have stripped us of all our assets so we would only be able to get waiver pick ups, 2nd rate UFA's, and AHLers?

There's a big difference between passing on Slaf for Cooley and Reinbacher for Michkov versus acquiring another 2nd round pick to get Cole Hutson.

I'm in many, many cases against passing on a sublime asset due to need. But maybe the scouts didn't see Cole Hutson as a sublime asset. And maybe he won't be at the NHL level.

 

[Kennerback]

Trading for an extra 2nd would have stripped us of all our assets so we would only be able to get waiver pick ups, 2nd rate UFA's, and AHLers?

There's a big difference between passing on Slaf for Cooley and Reinbacher for Michkov versus acquiring another 2nd round pick to get Cole Hutson.

I'm in many, many cases against passing on a sublime asset due to need. But maybe the scouts didn't see Cole Hutson as a sublime asset. And maybe he won't be at the NHL level.

The team that’s being built will already have more than sufficient offensive talent. Minus Patrick Roy, it will be stronger relative to the field than our 1986 and 1993 Cup teams.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

No points today. Guy f***ing sucks


He didn't play, but can't be all positive

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The team that’s being built will already have more than sufficient offensive talent. Minus Patrick Roy, it will be stronger relative to the field than our 1986 and 1993 Cup teams.

Yep.

Stronger offensively than the 86 team. Defensively? No. That club was insanely good with 2 Selke winners (and others who were nominees) 2 Norris winners and a defensive system that would later be employed by the New Jersy Devils. Offensively vs 93? Pretty close I’d say if we’re talking about today’s team.

Next year Demidov will change that.

 

[Kennerback]

Stronger offensively than the 86 team. Defensively? No. That club was insanely good with 2 Selke winners (and others who were nominees) 2 Norris winners and a defensive system that would later be employed by the New Jersy Devils.

Stronger offensively and will be solid defensively. The 1986 team couldn’t have won trying to match talent vs talent. It won the only way it could, trapping and Roy. This team will be closer to the Islanders from the early 80s than the 86 Habs.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Stronger offensively and will be solid defensively. The 1986 team couldn’t have won trying to match talent vs talent. It won the only way it could, trapping and Roy. This team will be closer to the Islanders from the early 80s than the 86 Habs.

With Demidov and the others I completely agree. This team will be able score at a rate we haven’t seen since the 70s. It won’t be the best offense in the league but it will be really good. I just wish Price could come back and win a cup with it.

 

[Kennerback]

With Demidov and the others I completely agree. This team will be able score at a rate we haven’t seen since the 70s. It won’t be the best offense in the league but it will be really good. I just wish Price could come back and win a cup with it.

That Islanders team was not the Broad Street Bullies nor the Big Bad Bruins but it played with an edge… And it was skilled.
Yes it’s unfortunate for Price. He never had anywhere close the talent this team will have.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

That Islanders team was not the Broad Street Bullies nor the Big Bad Bruins but it still played with an edge… and skill.
Yes it’s unfortunate for Price. He never had anywhere close the talent this team will have.

It had three of the best players of all time. One of the best teams ever assembled.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

But what do we need Cole Hutson for exactly!

Having two of the top ten or twenty defensemen in the league is not a detriment, especially when Lane will be the inferior one.

 

[WeThreeKings]

With Demidov and the others I completely agree. This team will be able score at a rate we haven’t seen since the 70s. It won’t be the best offense in the league but it will be really good. I just wish Price could come back and win a cup with it.

I hope when he retires that he decides to come back in the organization as like a director of goaltending or something he can do part time and remotely, kind of like Lecavalier. That way when we win the cup, he will get his ring. Even if it's as an executive.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I don't know if it would have stunted Cole or Lane's potential. For sure I could see that point.

Sometimes if you bring a lot of good players together, it's a good thing.

The concern wasn't so much that it would stunt their development in any way as it was more so that if they are on the same team they will never reach the individual heights that they are capable of........perhaps this is what you are saying?

The dad said that Lane was very willing to not sign a contract and become a free agent if the team that drafted him was not a fit. He also said that they would handle Cole in the same manner and when asked directly whether Montreal would be a good fit he replied that he didn't think so. There was no doubt in my mind at that point that Hughes was not going to draft Cole Hutson.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

That Islanders team was not the Broad Street Bullies nor the Big Bad Bruins but it played with an edge… And it was skilled.
Yes it’s unfortunate for Price. He never had anywhere close the talent this team will have.

Islanders were far more talented than the Broad Street Bullies.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Trading for an extra 2nd would have stripped us of all our assets so we would only be able to get waiver pick ups, 2nd rate UFA's, and AHLers?

There's a big difference between passing on Slaf for Cooley and Reinbacher for Michkov versus acquiring another 2nd round pick to get Cole Hutson.

I'm in many, many cases against passing on a sublime asset due to need. But maybe the scouts didn't see Cole Hutson as a sublime asset. And maybe he won't be at the NHL level.

How would the habs have acquired a high 2nd round pick last draft? At that position, you're still getting 1st round caliber prospects, so they are not easy to acquire. The habs had no 2nd round picks, so they wouldn't have been able to move up in the draft. It wouldve required an overpayment to get a high 2nd round pick last draft if all you have to trade are next years draft picks and prospects.

 

[HabzSauce]

It was either that or Ivan the Terrible

What about the Demon