Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

CaptnNemo

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Caufield always had size issues. There was no way he was just going to jump straight to the NHL.
Like I mentioned before..Cole played 2 games before jumping in with the big club.

All of a sudden his size wasn't an issue anymore?

I don't get it..everybody is talking like Cole had played 20+ games with the Rocket.

He only played 8 games in the span of 2 years and was done with it.

Am I crazy thinking Cole is not a good example?

Demi will probably never see the AHL unless it's a few games prior starting with the big club.

Once he's in he's never going back down unless an important injury occurs and needs reconditioning for a week or so.
 

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DeBrincat did.

Anyway, inserting Demidov, for 1 month, during a playoff run, not knowing the language, new to NA ice rinks, sounds like a terrible idea. Just let him rest before he comes to the rookie training camp/normal camp.
With all do respect, Demi is already used to NA rinks. He's been playing all year on them including SKA home rink.

Most KHL rinks now are the same size as NA.

Edit : Poster above beat me to it. 😁
 

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With all do respect, Demi is already used to NA rinks. He's been playing all year on them including SKA home rink.

Most KHL rinks now are the same size as NA.

Edit : Poster above beat me to it. 😁
Fair enough, but by NA ice rinks, I also mean the environment and the style of play (and new teammates that are at the end of their season and spent 8 months building a chemistry that you won't be able to integrate in few days).
 
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Fair enough, but by NA ice rinks, I also mean the environment and the style of play (and new teammates that are at the end of their season and spent 8 months building a chemistry that you won't be able to integrate in few days).
I get you and yes he needs to be well surrounded just like Slaf was.

I mean, Slaf could of used a few weeks down in Laval to be honest but Demi is a tier over Slaf talent wise even though not the same type of player but we'll see.

I hope he comes in ripping it at camp and beyond. That's how much I believe we have a real gem of a super star here.
 

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No question he’s going to be a star, but is he at the point he won’t benefit from playing another dozen games or so? I’m certainly not saying they should order him to go play in the AHL, but if he wants some games I’m sure there is stuff he can work on.

From Hutson’s comments he’ll probably want to play AHL playoffs just to get some more hockey time. I have no clue what Demidov wants, and that’s probably the most important thing. Keep him happy.
I wonder how he will feel about it after game 82 if he manages to play them all.
What a player wants and what is good for his body don't always coincide.
Heck he may even take a break from playing for Team USA in the Worlds.
 
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I wonder how he will feel about it after game 82 if he manages to play them all.
What a player wants and what is good for his body don't always coincide.
Heck he may even take a break from playing for Team USA in the Worlds.
Agreed. If he ends up tired or banged up he should rest. He’s young, though, and he’s said that what he wants to do most is play. It could be up to the team to tell him to take it easy. Everyone feels invincible early 20s with no major injuries.
 
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Like I mentioned before..Cole played 2 games before jumping in with the big club.

All of a sudden his size wasn't an issue anymore?

I don't get it..everybody is talking like Cole had played 20+ games with the Rocket.

He only played 8 games in the span of 2 years and was done with it.

Am I crazy thinking Cole is not a good example?

Demi will probably never see the AHL unless it's a few games prior starting with the big club.

Once he's in he's never going back down unless an important injury occurs and needs reconditioning for a week or so.
Caufield - like Hutson - played college until he was 20. They didn’t immediately go to the NHL.

The only reason Demidov isn’t in the NHL already is because he’s stuck in Russia.
 
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Caufield - like Hutson - played college until he was 20. They didn’t immediately go to the NHL.

The only reason Demidov isn’t in the NHL already is because he’s stuck in Russia.
Fair point on Cole and Lane but KHL as far as I know is a stronger league then NCAA and AHL no?

He's thriving with SKA despite his average ice time since the start and would probably be top 5 pointers in the league if had given first or second line duties with PP time.

I don't think he needs time anywhere else then Montréal once he's done in Russia and yes he'd be here in the NHL if it wasn't for Russia, I agree!
 

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Fair point on Cole and Lane but KHL as far as I know is a stronger league then NCAA and AHL no?

He's thriving with SKA despite his average ice time since the start and would probably be top 5 pointers in the league if had given first or second line duties with PP time.

I don't think he needs time anywhere else than Montréal once he's done in Russia and yes he'd be here in the NHL if it wasn't for Russia, I agree!
He’s probably NHL ready now. Just sucks that he’s not getting the ice he should.
 

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If we can bring him over to see some NHL action this year, I would do it in a heartbeat. Let him get a sense of the NHL pace and physicality. It will help his offseason training. The guy wants the NHL so bad. Let him taste it.
 

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Eric Engels said:
1. Ivan Demidov’s arrival in North America
At the NHL Board of Governor meetings in Palm Beach, Fla., in early December, I struck up a conversation with an Eastern Conference executive who brought up Demidov’s name, unsolicited.
“He’s a bona fide superstar, who will arrive in Montreal and immediately make an impact,” he said, adding he thought it wouldn’t take long for the Russian dynamo to become the Canadiens’ best player if he didn’t immediately start on that foot by next fall.
If that happens, it’s a bonus, because Demidov’s imminent arrival after his KHL contract expires this spring is enough of a gift on its own to the Canadiens and their fans.

Hughes excited for Demidov's chance to grow in final year of KHL deal
Montreal Canadiens' Kent Hughes discusses the team's plans for first-round pick Ivan Demidov next season, confirming the Russian star will finish out his deal in St. Petersburg and voicing how it will give him a great opportunity to grow his game.

By all accounts, the fifth-overall pick in 2024 is coming, and you don’t have to be an NHL executive to foresee what the injection of his talent might do for the team’s scoring potential.
Now, we always caution against judging a player based exclusively on YouTube highlights.
Even watching full games on video fails to adequately paint the type of complete picture you’re looking for to make a proper evaluation of a prospect.
But Demidov’s sizzle reel reveals enough to infer he’s going to be a special player in the world’s best hockey league. And this excellent video analysis from David St. Louis of eliteprospects.com is just one of the in-depth scouting reports out there that helps justify that inference.
Hence Demidov’s arrival topping our list of things Canadiens should be excited about for 2025.
I know how the executive I spoke to would feel about that ranking.
“We had eyes on him ahead of the draft, and we were blown away,” he said. “He’s the complete package.”
The Canadiens were obviously convinced, with their opinions of Demidov likely only reaffirmed on a recent trip to meet with him and watch him play in Russia.
General manager Kent Hughes, advisor Vincent Lecavalier and co-director of amateur scouting Nick Bobrov had to have been impressed with what they saw, as Demidov snapped a scoring drought and continued to build on his overly impressive rookie campaign with SKA St. Petersburg in their presence.
Since then, the 19-year-old has increased his totals to 10 goals and 26 points in 38 games and has finally seen the type of playing time his play merits.
It's not known if it’ll remain at close to 20 minutes when Demidov has been played for less than 10 in 15 of his games, but Canadiens fans can look forward to him getting on the ice plenty with their team over the coming months.
 

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