Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[KevSkillz4]

120 points like Kucherov!

Anything can happen with Demidov. His skillset are amazing.

Play with Hutson on PP will help his production and sniper like Laine//Caufield !!

 

[SlafySZN]

 

[Big Lurk]

He's a baaaby!!

 

[themilosh]

hope it wasn't same guy who said the same thing about Svoboda

If it were up to Ben's Deli on DeMaissoneuve then Kjell Dahlin was an icon.

 

[JianYang]

Was to young when Price was a prospect, was he seen that much high ? I thought many where disappointed with the pick

People were pissed off with the pick but price established himself as a top notch prospect pretty quick among most of thr doubters. Eventually, he got to be the Habs best prospect of the last 30 years.

It was kind of similar with markov. He was picked late though and was also an unknown coming out of Russia but by the time that he came and people saw him at the camp in which he would eventually make the team, people were very excited.

Demidov seems to be in the same realm.

Honorable mention to Andrei kostitsyn but the hype for him was a tier lower.

 

[JIMVINNY]

People were pissed off with the pick but price established himself as a top notch prospect pretty quick among most of thr doubters. Eventually, he got to be the Habs best prospect of the last 30 years.

It was kind of similar with markov. He was picked late though and was also an unknown coming out of Russia but by the time that he came and people saw him at the camp in which he would eventually make the team, people were very excited.

Demidov seems to be in the same realm.

Honorable mention to Andrei kostitsyn but the hype for him was a tier lower.

Markov was a late round pick. His success was a bonus, it wasn't expected. People (myself included) were disappointed with the Price pick because we didn't think we needed a goalie. His play over the next couple years did a lot to dispel that disappointment.

Demidov, on the other hand, is as near to a can't-miss offensive prospect as Montreal has seen in a very long time. He was hyped before the draft, and getting him at 5 was delightful. I don't think the three situations are remotely comparable.

 

[JianYang]

Markov was a late round pick. His success was a bonus, it wasn't expected. People (myself included) were disappointed with the Price pick because we didn't think we needed a goalie. His play over the next couple years did a lot to dispel that disappointment.

Demidov, on the other hand, is as near to a can't-miss offensive prospect as Montreal has seen in a very long time. He was hyped before the draft, and getting him at 5 was delightful. I don't think the three situations are remotely comparable.

Within a couple years of drafting, markov was pretty much considered, a slam dunk number 1.

Price's stock after the Calder cup run reached biblical proportions.

Demidov is being touted in a similar light.

If we are to talk about the hype at the point of the draft, that's a different ranking. I'm talking about the span from being drafted to just before making the nhl.

 

[JIMVINNY]

Within a couple years of drafting, markov was pretty much considered, a slam dunk number 1.

Price's stock after the Calder cup run reached biblical proportions.

Demidov is being touted in a similar light.

If we are to talk about the hype at the point of the draft, that's a different ranking. I'm talking about the span from being drafted to just before making the nhl.

Markov wasn't a full time NHL'er until his 4th year, and didn't break the .5ppg mark until he was past his mid-20's. People know he was going to be a good player, for sure. But he hit his stride late; It certainly wasn't within 2 years of his draft year. Price's stock hit it's high 2 years after he was drafted, while Demidov's was sky high at the draft. Again, these three situations are not even remotely close.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Anything can happen with Demidov. His skillset are amazing.

Play with Hutson on PP will help his production and sniper like Laine//Caufield !!

Habs should retain Laine because not many of our forwards like to shoot the puck (or has confidence in their shot). Too much pass happy forwards at this point in time IMO. Slaf is a good passer but he's passing in shooting opportunities still. The culture is wearing off on him too?

Demidov looks to be another play maker (like Hutson) but I do wonder if he is a pass first or shoot first type?

 

[Scriptor]

Demidov was billed as a more complete Michkov with a better attitude. I was willing to pass on Michkov without too much rancour, but was happy that Demidov (who should blossom into a full Dove) was still available at #5 OA when our turn to pick came along.

Still somewhat concerned about his open skating style on a smaller surface once he comes over to North America? Too many opportunities for a knee on knee from some of the NHL players with less moral fibre.

A Demidov-Laine duo with an elite playmaking winger, in Demidov, could be an assault weapon if Demidov establishes himself as a dual-threat, buying more space for the Finnish sniper when opting for the pass.

We'd still need a Center for those two, or one for Caufield and Slafkovsky on another line.

Could see Laine (R) and Demidov (L) as off wing forwards, maximizing shooting options and able to pass both off the forehand or the backhand, and able to permeate positioning with ease.

Laine - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - ??? - Slafkovsky

- OR -

Laine - ??? - Demidov
Caufiled - Suzuki - Slafkovsky

Unless, somehow, Demidov gets switched to Center and pans out at that position?

Slafkovsky - Demidov - Laine
Caufield - Suzuki - Heineman

All these options as we wait to see how Hage and whomever we draft in 2025 pan out.

Plenty of young options for the 3rd and fourth lines already in the system; Dach, Beck, Evans, Kapanen, Roy, Newhook, Gerry Boulé, RHP, Mesar, Davidson, F. Xhekaj and a potential to draft Desnoyers and/or Carbonneau at the 2025 draft.

Up front, that missing top-6 C is key. The rest of the lineup will undoubtedly shape up as an above-average bottom-6 within the demographics of the team's core.

The same goes for a missing top-4 RHD as a second key element needed to take the next step.

Finally, a second quality G is the third missing element for this team.

Not all that much if the needs are properly addressed and not impossible to address them properly with the future picks, promising prospects and expiring veteran contracts, plus the Cap space resulting from judicious long term contracts awarded at reasonable Cap hits.

The future, for me, seems rather bright for the Habs because the Gm at the helm is no longer Marc Bergevin. I think he might not have had the right outlook in the later stages of his tenure, nor the assertiveness to make the necessary moves in the earlier portion of his reign as Montreal GM.

I think that Hughes both has the better outlook for what moves need to be made and, even of it is still early in his tenure, the assertiveness to make the necessary moves.

Beyond that, the new development philosophy and the assets available to do as much lend more credibility to the team's approach in building a contender.

A sounding board in Gorton, along with the continued backing of Geoff Molson opens the doors to actually make necessary changes.

Always a good thing.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

People were pissed off with the pick but price established himself as a top notch prospect pretty quick among most of thr doubters. Eventually, he got to be the Habs best prospect of the last 30 years.

It was kind of similar with markov. He was picked late though and was also an unknown coming out of Russia but by the time that he came and people saw him at the camp in which he would eventually make the team, people were very excited.

Demidov seems to be in the same realm.

Honorable mention to Andrei kostitsyn but the hype for him was a tier lower.

Subban, maybe?

Habs should retain Laine because not many of our forwards like to shoot the puck (or has confidence in their shot). Too much pass happy forwards at this point in time IMO. Slaf is a good passer but he's passing in shooting opportunities still. The culture is wearing off on him too?

Demidov looks to be another play maker (like Hutson) but I do wonder if he is a pass first or shoot first type?

He likes to do both.

 

[JianYang]

Markov wasn't a full time NHL'er until his 4th year, and didn't break the .5ppg mark until he was past his mid-20's. People know he was going to be a good player, for sure. But he hit his stride late; It certainly wasn't within 2 years of his draft year. Price's stock hit it's high 2 years after he was drafted, while Demidov's was sky high at the draft. Again, these three situations are not even remotely close.

I'll give you an example of the hype. Back when HF used to have a prospect listing for each team, only two players ever reached the 9.0 plateau back then for montreal which was reserved for stars. That was price and markov.

Markov taking some time does not mean the excitement didn't exist. Price had a bumpy ride as well and didn't fully establish himself as a starter until 2010-2011 but that's besides the point as I'm only measuring to the time prior to them reaching the nhl.

 

[SlafySZN]

Demidov was billed as a more complete Michkov with a better attitude. I was willing to pass on Michkov without too much rancour, but was happy that Demidov (who should blossom into a full Dove) was still available at #5 OA when our turn to pick came along.

Still somewhat concerned about his open skating style on a smaller surface once he comes over to North America? Too many opportunities for a knee on knee from some of the NHL players with less moral fibre.

A Demidov-Laine duo with an elite playmaking winger, in Demidov, could be an assault weapon if Demidov establishes himself as a dual-threat, buying more space for the Finnish sniper when opting for the pass.

We'd still need a Center for those two, or one for Caufield and Slafkovsky on another line.

Could see Laine (R) and Demidov (L) as off wing forwards, maximizing shooting options and able to pass both off the forehand or the backhand, and able to permeate positioning with ease.

Laine - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - ??? - Slafkovsky

- OR -

Laine - ??? - Demidov
Caufiled - Suzuki - Slafkovsky

Unless, somehow, Demidov gets switched to Center and pans out at that position?

Slafkovsky - Demidov - Laine
Caufield - Suzuki - Heineman

All these options as we wait to see how Hage and whomever we draft in 2025 pan out.

Plenty of young options for the 3rd and fourth lines already in the system; Dach, Beck, Evans, Kapanen, Roy, Newhook, Gerry Boulé, RHP, Mesar, Davidson, F. Xhekaj and a potential to draft Desnoyers and/or Carbonneau at the 2025 draft.

Up front, that missing top-6 C is key. The rest of the lineup will undoubtedly shape up as an above-average bottom-6 within the demographics of the team's core.

The same goes for a missing top-4 RHD as a second key element needed to take the next step.

Finally, a second quality G is the third missing element for this team.

Not all that much if the needs are properly addressed and not impossible to address them properly with the future picks, promising prospects and expiring veteran contracts, plus the Cap space resulting from judicious long term contracts awarded at reasonable Cap hits.

The future, for me, seems rather bright for the Habs because the Gm at the helm is no longer Marc Bergevin. I think he might not have had the right outlook in the later stages of his tenure, nor the assertiveness to make the necessary moves in the earlier portion of his reign as Montreal GM.

I think that Hughes both has the better outlook for what moves need to be made and, even of it is still early in his tenure, the assertiveness to make the necessary moves.

Beyond that, the new development philosophy and the assets available to do as much lend more credibility to the team's approach in building a contender.

A sounding board in Gorton, along with the continued backing of Geoff Molson opens the doors to actually make necessary changes.

Always a good thing.

Demidov already plays on a ''smaller'' surface. KHL rinks are north america size, has been for many years now.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

i wonder if Demidov comes straight to NA after his contract is done or he spends the summer in Russia getting ready for next season im sure Habs would love for him to come straight over and would give him all the tools needed

 

[WeThreeKings]

i wonder if Demidov comes straight to NA after his contract is done or he spends the summer in Russia getting ready for next season im sure Habs would love for him to come straight over and would give him all the tools needed

Im sure he will sign his ELC and be on the earliest flight out while giving rottenturd the finger

 

[SlafySZN]

 

[crosbyshow]

Apart the fact that he is a hell of a hockey player.....this guy has everything for him:

Good looking
Smile
Great charisma
Funny.
Great personnality.

If Demidov deliver on the ice as promised he will have Montréal at all the province at his feet

 

[overlords]

is he fighting a teammate at practice about a third of the way in?


Classless

 

[SlafySZN]

is he fighting a teammate at practice about a third of the way in?


Classless

Lmao it was in the playoffs last april. Our boy is a goon.

 

[Kennerback]

is he fighting a teammate at practice about a third of the way in?


Classless

 

[KevSkillz4]

He is a competitor with amazing attitude. Combine that with all his talent, this guy is a franchise player man!

 

[CharleyHorse]

Habs should retain Laine because not many of our forwards like to shoot the puck (or has confidence in their shot). Too much pass happy forwards at this point in time IMO. Slaf is a good passer but he's passing in shooting opportunities still. The culture is wearing off on him too?

Demidov looks to be another play maker (like Hutson) but I do wonder if he is a pass first or shoot first type?

Nah, Slaf was a passer since the time he first stepped on Bell Center ice, If you remember, it was like pulling teeth trying to get him to shoot until the mid-point of last season. Then he figured it out and ended up with 20 goals - maybe it was a confidence thing. This season he's forgotten about shooting all over again, and is back to passing, so to date, 2 goals only. I hope he re-familiarizes himself with shooting again otherwise, at $7.6 million per year, that's a boat-load of money per Slaf goal.

 

[SlafySZN]

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Just a few more weeks Ivan. Just take it and be patient, you'll get the last laugh in the end, when the entire Bell center is chanting your name.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

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