Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[ReHabs]

For example?

Federov and Shanahan, Andrew Ladd and Brent Seabrook, Mark Recchi and Ray Bourque... but these aren't exactly the same as "young stud takes his preferred number". You're probably correct that we won't see it happen.

 

[Shutdown]

Just once I would love to see a GM say "we were really disappointed. The guy we really wanted was selected right in front of us, so we had to settle for this other guy instead."

basically how Tim Murray reacted to not winning the McDavid lottery and having to pick Eichel lol

 

[sandviper]

I thought it was Demi More...

It’s going to be typical hockey player creativity; Ivy, Iver or Demy (spelled Demi I guess), Dimer.

 

[Cournoyer12]

It’s going to be typical hockey player creativity; Ivy, Iver or Demy (spelled Demi I guess), Dimer.

Let’s go to out after Praxiteles, crush a sando, and some appts Jonsey!

Let’s go to out after Praxiteles, crush a sando, and some appts Jonsey!

Pracky!!! I meant stupid spell check!!!

 

[Whalers Fan]

Demidov wearing #11 or another number will make no difference in terms of marketing.

It could end up being a marketing boom. Demidov takes #91 to start his career and lots of jerseys get sold. Then Gallagher is gone two years later, Demidov switches to #11, and all those people with #91 jerseys buy a new one. Cha-ching!

 

[WeThreeKings]

It could end up being a marketing boom. Demidov takes #91 to start his career and lots of jerseys get sold. Then Gallagher is gone two years later, Demidov switches to #11, and all those people with #91 jerseys buy a new one. Cha-ching!

Gallagher being allowed to wear Koivu's 11 is one of the biggest failures of the organization.. now he tainted the number and I want nothing to do with 11 on Demidov. Get 91, keep 91.

 

[Habs Halifax]

It could end up being a marketing boom. Demidov takes #91 to start his career and lots of jerseys get sold. Then Gallagher is gone two years later, Demidov switches to #11, and all those people with #91 jerseys buy a new one. Cha-ching!

Don't give them any ideas

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Gallagher being allowed to wear Koivu's 11 is one of the biggest failures of the organization.. now he tainted the number and I want nothing to do with 11 on Demidov. Get 91, keep 91.

Come on bro. Gomez wore it in between. Tarnishing had already been done lol

 

[CaptnNemo]

Just keep 11 for Aatos to bring back the Koivu legacy in a few years and let Ivan choose whatever number.

Personally I'd vouch for 27 but 91 would be good or maybe 96?

 

[InAG-P]

Demidov demanding #11 is one thing, but if the org wants to market the hottest prospect in the past 30 years they might value that over Gally's hypothetical ego. I should say that Gallagher hasn't done anything yet, and if Demidov chooses another number out of respect that's fine. If Gally was going to be here for the long haul then I can understand, but the career overlap will be minimal.

Come to think of it, they might play 1-2 season together max. Maybe Demidov will be like gally and change his number after a few years wearing something else

I wonder if it's counter productive from a marketing perspective. Hear me out. Demidov taking 11 means everyone with a Gallagher jersey (and there are a lot) can simply change the name plate. If they want to make money, you get Demidov to take #91

 

[morhilane]

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They might not be lying. We were told there was a few teams who didn't have Demidov in their top 5.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Gallagher being allowed to wear Koivu's 11 is one of the biggest failures of the organization.. now he tainted the number and I want nothing to do with 11 on Demidov. Get 91, keep 91.

I was thinking he was taking Gomez number, lol. Or call it failure 2.0. First year of Gomy it was nice, but after ...

 

[junyab]

Ice time. Playing in the top 6. PP time. Obviously I didn’t mean the extreme examples you gave.

But since you're just speculating, you can't speculate one and not the other.

Are you saying you can't develop without those things (top 6, pp time etc.)? Well that's hogwash.

What if he did come over, made the big club, but didn't get top 6 and PP time here? Would he, under your assumption, not develop here then?

All of this is nonsense.

 

[junyab]

Gallagher being allowed to wear Koivu's 11 is one of the biggest failures of the organization.. now he tainted the number and I want nothing to do with 11 on Demidov. Get 91, keep 91.

I think the worse thing they did to Koivu was when they didn't offer him a contract, not even 1-year, after he became a UFA. Talk about a disrespectful snub to your captain.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Demidov demanding #11 is one thing, but if the org wants to market the hottest prospect in the past 30 years they might value that over Gally's hypothetical ego.

And they can’t market him if he wears say… number 15?

I should say that Gallagher hasn't done anything yet, and if Demidov chooses another number out of respect that's fine. If Gally was going to be here for the long haul then I can understand, but the career overlap will be minimal.

Demidov “chooses another number out of respect?”

You say that as though he’s doing Gallagher a favour.

Come to think of it, they might play 1-2 season together max. Maybe Demidov will be like gally and change his number after a few years wearing something else

Exactly. If he wants the number so bad, he can wait for it.

 

[Nicko999]

You it's the middle of summer when people are discussing what number a prospect should wear.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Gallagher being allowed to wear Koivu's 11 is one of the biggest failures of the organization.. now he tainted the number and I want nothing to do with 11 on Demidov. Get 91, keep 91.

Why are you acting as if Gallagher wasn’t a great player and fan favourite for years? He wasn’t a plug… it was also Gomez’ number

 

[electron58]

I think the worse thing they did to Koivu was when they didn't offer him a contract, not even 1-year, after he became a UFA. Talk about a disrespectful snub to your captain.

Agreed! 100%!!!

 

[habsterr]

What would you rather AHL or KHL?

 

[Hacketts]

#JusticeForGallagher #LeaveGallagherAlone #GallagherIGetNoRespect

 

[V13]

Doesn't really matter if Demidov gets 11 or not. In fact I'd prefer him to get #91 and let the guy etablish that number as a recognizable one in Habs history. Plus he is a very different player compared to Gallagher and Koivu so #91 just suits him better imho

Also , and no disrespect to Suzuki , Koivu , Plekanec , Gallagher , Gomez etc but i watched the number #11 and #14 in our top 6 for the last 2+ decades. Watching a highly skilled gamebreaker wearing #91 is just gonna feel fresh for some reason lol.

 

[schwang26]

But since you're just speculating, you can't speculate one and not the other.

Are you saying you can't develop without those things (top 6, pp time etc.)? Well that's hogwash.

What if he did come over, made the big club, but didn't get top 6 and PP time here? Would he, under your assumption, not develop here then?

All of this is nonsense.

If you’re a highly touted, offensive player, yes. You don’t think limited ice time, playing with scrubs, no PP time would hurt your development? There are a ton of posts of people bitching about prospects ice time and not getting opportunities. Why would a Khl team focus on some kid who may or may not be around for the year as opposed to another guy that will? In the end, I could be wrong (hope I am) but let’s see what shakes out this season.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Going from the MHL to the NHL is a real big step, probably too big in just one jump. Playing half a season in Laval would make for an easier transition.

It's not that big of a step IF you do not expect him to dominate. Juraj did make the move to the NHL early. I think it is fine if the player is developping.

 

[Deebs]

What would you rather AHL or KHL?

I would like him to play in Laval not only to get used to the NA way of playing the game but to also spend an extra year with future teammates. That time is invaluable. I also believe the AHL is a better league than the K these days.

 

[Tyson]

I would like him to play in Laval not only to get used to the NA way of playing the game but to also spend an extra year with future teammates. That time is invaluable. I also believe the AHL is a better league than the K these days.

If we could get him to NA right away I think that would be a huge win. If you can control his development why wouldn't you?