2024-25 USNTDP U18 Discussion

[Hockeyville USA]

Mooney been out over a month - plus didn’t see Amico either

Amico is done for the year, lower body/leg surgery.

 

[jtechkid]

Yes it was reported - whats your viewpn ntdp
defense core ? thx

 

[MichaelFarrell]

I’m glad I took a break from watching the USNTDP for a while. I think I was almost over-analyzing.

This CHL vs USNTDP series has definitely confirmed my initial thoughts about the program. Cole McKinney is the best player on this team for me. Jack Murtagh, Cole McKinney, Carter Amico, and Conrad Fondrk are really the only players I have any interest in at all. Will Belle, Andrew Neil, and Mace’o Phillips are players I’d consider taking late.

Will Moore, Charlie Trethaway, and LJ Mooney should probably not be on anyone’s ranking list for the first round. Those aren’t first round players for me. I personally would not draft Mooney until very late in the draft.

 

[Oak]

I’m glad I took a break from watching the USNTDP for a while. I think I was almost over-analyzing.

This CHL vs USNTDP series has definitely confirmed my initial thoughts about the program. Cole McKinney is the best player on this team for me. Jack Murtagh, Cole McKinney, Carter Amico, and Conrad Fondrk are really the only players I have any interest in at all. Will Belle, Andrew Neil, and Mace’o Phillips are players I’d consider taking late.

Will Moore, Charlie Trethaway, and LJ Mooney should probably not be on anyone’s ranking list for the first round. Those aren’t first round players for me. I personally would not draft Mooney until very late in the draft.

I wonder every year when the NTDP pip squeak fascination will finally come to an end.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

I wonder every year when the NTDP pip squeak fascination will finally come to an end.

I’m not against small players. I love Cam Schmidt and I have Potter ranked high. But, Mooney isn’t fast, doesn’t have a great shot, and certainly doesn’t avoid contact.

I’m from Pittsburgh and wanted Mooney to be great, but I don’t see a player there at all.

 

[Mathieukferland]

I’m not against small players. I love Cam Schmidt and I have Potter ranked high. But, Mooney isn’t fast, doesn’t have a great shot, and certainly doesn’t avoid contact.

I’m from Pittsburgh and wanted Mooney to be great, but I don’t see a player there at all.

He’s the one that’s didsapointed me the most on that team so far. When I saw him at U18 I thought he was a buzz saw and made up for his size with pace and competitiveness. He’s been relatively anonymous through these two games

 

[MTU34]

He’s the one that’s didsapointed me the most on that team so far. When I saw him at U18 I thought he was a buzz saw and made up for his size with pace and competitiveness. He’s been relatively anonymous through these two games

To be fair these are his first two games after a mildly serious knee injury

 

[Oak]

I’m not against small players. I love Cam Schmidt and I have Potter ranked high. But, Mooney isn’t fast, doesn’t have a great shot, and certainly doesn’t avoid contact.

I’m from Pittsburgh and wanted Mooney to be great, but I don’t see a player there at all.

I didn't realize Schmidt is that small but I agree he has been very good and definitely plays bigger than he is. I never looked at Potter as a very small guy though.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

To be fair these are his first two games after a mildly serious knee injury

I don’t think anybody should judge him for his two games in the prospect challenge. Although, he got absolutely lit up again in the first game.

He’s capable of making quick skilled plays, but at his size, it’s really hard to see any professional success with his skillset.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Mooney just came back from missing like 7 weeks.

I would give him a few weeks to get going.

I don't think he's anything special for a smaller player. Likely wouldn't take him first round (unless he absolutely goes off this season), but I think he's a good player.

 

[jtechkid]

I’m glad I took a break from watching the USNTDP for a while. I think I was almost over-analyzing.

This CHL vs USNTDP series has definitely confirmed my initial thoughts about the program. Cole McKinney is the best player on this team for me. Jack Murtagh, Cole McKinney, Carter Amico, and Conrad Fondrk are really the only players I have any interest in at all. Will Belle, Andrew Neil, and Mace’o Phillips are players I’d consider taking late.

Will Moore, Charlie Trethaway, and LJ Mooney should probably not be on anyone’s ranking list for the first round. Those aren’t first round players for me. I personally would not draft Mooney until very late in the draft.

murtaugh and mckinney are late first round picks -thats it . button and everybody will keep pumping moore but i dont see it all . trethaway is a stretch for the second round in my view . just because you got picked go to ntdp shouldnt guarantee top three rounds for lazy scouts lol

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Between Moore and Treth, two players I’ve always thought were overrated, I’ll take Treth. A 6’2 right shot that doesn’t have a huge hole in his game isn’t a bad prospect. Think he has a high floor. That floor might not even be an NHL player, but seems very hard to believe he’s not at least like a good AHL’er.

 

[bigdog16]

I wonder every year when the NTDP pip squeak fascination will finally come to an end.

What other pip squeaks are you talking about? Dhooghe was a miss, Caufield turned out great, Grimaldi turned into a pro. Can’t remember any other 5’6 and under players.

 

[Juxtaposer]

While I certainly wouldn't advocate taking him with a 1st round pick, I'm starting to come around on Trethewey just a smidge.

He's super young for the class and it definitely looks like he's grown some since I watched him last season. Very raw, but the desire to be physical is there and he doesn't have any truly problematic weaknesses. I feel like if a really good developmental team got their hands on him, they could turn him into a very good top-4 D.

 

[jtechkid]

While I certainly wouldn't advocate taking him with a 1st round pick, I'm starting to come around on Trethewey just a smidge.

He's super young for the class and it definitely looks like he's grown some since I watched him last season. Very raw, but the desire to be physical is there and he doesn't have any truly problematic weaknesses. I feel like if a really good developmental team got their hands on him, they could turn him into a very good top-4 D.

I dont mind him but only reason he is first round is your reaching for a pick because its ntdp . minnitian and fortescue look lot more solid and they went in third round . its a weak ntdp group right across the board .

 

[MichaelFarrell]

One thing I should’ve mentioned after the game is I’m really proud of how hard the US player played. I’ve been hard on them all year and pretty disappointed by their play. But, they really wanted to win. They gave it everything they had. Rich Gallant was going up against guys way bigger than him with zero fear. Game two was one of the best hockey games I’ve seen in a while.

While I certainly wouldn't advocate taking him with a 1st round pick, I'm starting to come around on Trethewey just a smidge.

He's super young for the class and it definitely looks like he's grown some since I watched him last season. Very raw, but the desire to be physical is there and he doesn't have any truly problematic weaknesses. I feel like if a really good developmental team got their hands on him, they could turn him into a very good top-4 D.

I see where you are coming from with Charlie. I could see him maybe playing in the NHL, but he needs to improve his decision-making. He has good enough mobility and physicality, but I’m not sure if he’s a good enough puck distributor to play meaningful minutes in the NHL. He doesn’t impact the game enough for a guy you’d consider taking high.