2024-25 USNTDP U17 Discussion
- Thread starter Pavel Buchnevich
- Start date
Hockeyville USA
Registered User
Always love seeing the NTDP linecharts with the NCAA logos for their commitments.
Expecting Berchild, Beuker, and Hurlbert to have a big year
Expecting Berchild, Beuker, and Hurlbert to have a big year
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
8-3 win tonight. 14 guys scored. Berchild, Zajic, and George were the leaders with 1+1 each.
Hockeyville USA
Registered User
Yes, lol, reminds me of my younger brothers team after they all gave eachother terrible haircuts. They had to go to school looking like they were attacked by Edward scissor hands, and after a week, all buzzed it off.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
When they are listed as scratched, it’s almost always that.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
First point for Hurlbert. Slow start. Was getting shots, but pucks not going in.
clevelandcane
Registered User
it’s tough - it’s big shock for this young group beginning of the year adjusting - need wait in my view 3-4 months get a better view
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Berchild continues to lead the team with 12 points (7+5) in 10 games. Hurlbert might be starting to get going a little. Had 2+0 last night. Their early USHL results have been pretty okay.
WarriorofTime
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2010
- 31,357
- 20,324
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Everyone was hoping the 08s would be a proper roster that was void of nepotism and the buddy system. Seemed like we would get our way until the actually u17s started playing games and disappointed us
Another weak year. Considering they blew up some of the team for USHL replacements they should consider doing it again. Or maybe it's just a weak year overall but I can think of 2 players in the north east who might do better there.
Another weak year. Considering they blew up some of the team for USHL replacements they should consider doing it again. Or maybe it's just a weak year overall but I can think of 2 players in the north east who might do better there.
Last edited:
That game vs Czechia was insane, what a finish. The NTDP didn’t look very good overall but clutch goals by Berchild saves them. He looked pretty solid. Reminds me of Cole Perfetti with the way he skates. Hurlbert hasn’t impressed me at all this tournmanet. I’ve liked Cullen, he’s slick and very skilled but a bit too slight right now. Too much on the perimeter. Shreier (sp?) and Kemps seem like the best D by a considerable margin. Haven’t minded Beuker as well.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Early impression from this team is pretty good. Better than I was expecting. They aren't a vintage NTDP year, but we knew that would be the case some time ago. The best age groups at the NTDP seem to be hyped up a lot coming in, and this group didn't have any of that.
A lot of the interesting players are either raw tools players or not very projectable. So we're working with a lot of the extremes, which is probably why on the whole this team will probably not end up with a top 10 pick. It's possible with a few of them, but odds are probably slightly against it when you add it up.
I think the defense is weak. It's not terrible, but only like 3-5 players of any potential. A number of the defensemen on the back half of the team are like undraftable or only draftable because they're "big and tough and bad at hockey" archetypes. The forwards have a lot of small skill forwards that don't skate that well. I wonder if they felt they needed to overcorrect after the 2007's have too much size and grit and not enough offense.
Draft ranges:
1st rounders: Nelson (5-25), Berchild (10-30), Hurlbert (15-45), Schairer (5-25), Kemps (5-35)
2nd rounders: Plante, Mutryn, Zajic
3rd rounders: Barnett, Glance, Martyniuk
4-7: Beuker, Francisco, Cullen
Not draftable: Carrithers, Wathier, Lutner, Marthaler, Garcia, Stuart
If Trottier is still part of the team, he could be like a 2nd or 3rd rounder (probably 3rd). Didn't see the other two goaltenders, but Carrithers plays the majority of the minutes and isn't that good, so chances aren't good for the other two if they can't outplay him.
Nelson, Berchild, and Kemps look like real candidates to be promoted to the 18's for the second half of the season. Schairer could also be a candidate if he can iron out his faults. Hurlbert wouldn't shock me either.
A lot of the interesting players are either raw tools players or not very projectable. So we're working with a lot of the extremes, which is probably why on the whole this team will probably not end up with a top 10 pick. It's possible with a few of them, but odds are probably slightly against it when you add it up.
I think the defense is weak. It's not terrible, but only like 3-5 players of any potential. A number of the defensemen on the back half of the team are like undraftable or only draftable because they're "big and tough and bad at hockey" archetypes. The forwards have a lot of small skill forwards that don't skate that well. I wonder if they felt they needed to overcorrect after the 2007's have too much size and grit and not enough offense.
Draft ranges:
1st rounders: Nelson (5-25), Berchild (10-30), Hurlbert (15-45), Schairer (5-25), Kemps (5-35)
2nd rounders: Plante, Mutryn, Zajic
3rd rounders: Barnett, Glance, Martyniuk
4-7: Beuker, Francisco, Cullen
Not draftable: Carrithers, Wathier, Lutner, Marthaler, Garcia, Stuart
If Trottier is still part of the team, he could be like a 2nd or 3rd rounder (probably 3rd). Didn't see the other two goaltenders, but Carrithers plays the majority of the minutes and isn't that good, so chances aren't good for the other two if they can't outplay him.
Nelson, Berchild, and Kemps look like real candidates to be promoted to the 18's for the second half of the season. Schairer could also be a candidate if he can iron out his faults. Hurlbert wouldn't shock me either.
Hockeyville USA
Registered User
Thoughts on Tyler Martyniuk? Feel like no one is talking about him since he has no commitment and is a late birthday.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
3rd-5th highest potential defenseman on the team. Not the same league as Schairer and Kemps, but after that if things go well he could be next best. Has more upside than guys like Francisco and Barnett, but they are currently better and more productive hockey players.
