Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Thechozen1]

Usually I'm indifferent however this year unless it's some unforeseen difference maker, I kind of hope the Jets keep their 1st. Rakell is intriguing, maybe move a 1st for him if they view him as a surefire Center. Other than him I'm not keen on most the name at a 1st+ price tag. Keep it and maybe see what the off season offers for trade acquisitions.

Rakell could slot in with Lowry and Niederreiter, making that line a bigger offensive threat. Appleton gets pushed down to the 4th/extra. A 1st and add Lucius as sweetener.

Then deal Heinola and a 4th or 5th to the Sharks for Ferraro.

Other names I’d be looking at as alternatives are Frederic, Donato, McLeod and Maatta.

 

[10Ducky10]

Do you really think the Sharks would accept that for Ferraro?
Maata can stay where he is...slow, soft and inconsistent.
A 1st and a former first round pick for somebody that's going to play on our third line?
We need a 2C and another right hand defenseman. Stanley isn't going anywhere.

 

[Thechozen1]

Namestnikov just doesn't get credit. First goal Jets score on Blues was an odd man rush set up by Namestnikov against good players. Strong d-zone play.

First good scoring chance tonight comes from a Vlad shot block setting up another odd man rush. That the players didn't capitalize on. He was all around the net. Driving possession.

I don't know if I want to disrupt that chemistry, it would have to be for a guy who can defend and carry the middle of the ice like Vlad.

There's still the Lowry-Ehlers option too. Lowry just grinds like nobody else. Finishes checks. I feel like Appleton is sucking the offense out of Lowry's line right now. And Nino too.

Target Rakell. Full court press. Convince him to join the top team in the league. He’d compliment Lowry and Niederreiter really well and wouldn’t look out of place bumped up to the 2nd line if injuries occur.

 

[WiscoJet]

If we can't upgrade 2C then I want to upgrade 3RW and move Appleton to the 4th Line. Palmieri would be my target. Nothing against Appleton he is a fine 3rd line player on a traditional Stanley cup contender that has a ton of firepower in its top 6 but without significantly upgrading the 2nd line we will need the 3rd line to score more in April, May, and June. To me Palmieri is an ideal complement for Nino/Lowry. Palmieri has very similar speed to Appleton but has a way better shot which that line clearly needs.I don't have the data on forechecking nor do i get to watch a lot of islander games but I would have to think that is one of his strengths based on how he played vs. the Jets a couple of weeks ago.

Yes I know he has a trade protection and that will always be a caveat with our Jets but man he fits the culture right now.

 

[Thechozen1]

Do you really think the Sharks would accept that for Ferraro?
Maata can stay where he is...slow, soft and inconsistent.
A 1st and a former first round pick for somebody that's going to play on our third line?
We need a 2C and another right hand defenseman. Stanley isn't going anywhere.

Referring to Lucius as a former 1st but not Heinola?

Realistically, the Jets first is almost a 2nd

If the Jets are fortunate enough to go on a long playoff run, there will be injuries. Don’t like Rakell on line 3, he can play on the 2nd when it eventually goes cold.

There aren’t many affordable RHD that can actually play that are available and don’t have trade protection so in that case, you get the best defenseman possible even if he’s a LHD. If your sole focus is on RHD, you’ll end up with Risto, Schenn or Desharnais

 

[Whileee]

Just a reminder that Arniel is a huge supporter of Appleton. I really don't think he's going to demote him if the Jets get a new RW. I kind of think it's more likely that Perfetti would be demoted, rather than Appleton.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

There's no way Buffalo accepts that deal. Iafallo is the only part of the trade they would covet.
If Chevy trades for Risto, it will go down as his worst trade of all time and also leave no room for Pionk's return.
I would 100 times rather have Pionk than Risto.

I did say not to answer that LOL but yeah it's not very likely they accept, I honestly don't know what a reasonable price is for him considering his woes and the fact we can't really afford to give up many roster players.

I also agree about Risto, I don't like that trade at all, I hope Chevy stays clear.

 

[NA Hockey]

Just a reminder that Arniel is a huge supporter of Appleton. I really don't think he's going to demote him if the Jets get a new RW. I kind of think it's more likely that Perfetti would be demoted, rather than Appleton.

I think the Appleton ship has sailed and even Arniel knows that. He barely penalty kills anymore, he rarely plays more than 14 mins and many night's is in the 12’s or lower, and he has 17 points in 47 games. He doesn’t make plays or make anyone better and his defense while not bad is not anbove average either. He is barely a replacement level player anymore.

 

[Thechozen1]

Just a reminder that Arniel is a huge supporter of Appleton. I really don't think he's going to demote him if the Jets get a new RW. I kind of think it's more likely that Perfetti would be demoted, rather than Appleton.

Agreed that there’s the possibility of that, but even Maurice who was a supporter of Bryan Little, demoted him after Stastny arrived.

I think this team as constructed and with an add or two has multiple moving parts that can slide up and down the lineup. All players will go through lulls and having someone capable of filling in without hurting the team is how this team will have success.

 

[CanMerc]

I have a feeling that we end with Laughton, and Risto if Chevy thinks that Pionk won't re-sign

People will be pissed, but as usual, I'll wait to see the results before judging

If that’s what we end up with, I’ll definitely be pissed…getting Risto would be wasting assets and cap space. Laughton does nothing and really adds nothing worth trading for.

 

[surixon]

Just a reminder that Arniel is a huge supporter of Appleton. I really don't think he's going to demote him if the Jets get a new RW. I kind of think it's more likely that Perfetti would be demoted, rather than Appleton.

He's a huge supporter of of most of his players until he's not. He is "Ville's biggest fan" but that hasn't helped him get out of the PB.

As @NA Hockey has indicated Appelton's minutes have gone down lately.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

He's a huge supporter of of most of his players until he's not. He is "Ville's biggest fan" but that hasn't helped him get out of the PB.

As @NA Hockey has indicated Appelton's minutes have gone down lately.

Hes still on pk1

 

[CanMerc]

Hanging onto our 1st in this draft is a waste.. it’s a bad draft class where our late 1st is closer to a late 2nd…better to move it if possible to help the team….but not for mediocre lateral moves like Risto or Laughton…rather keep the 1st or address depth over acquiring 1 or both of those 2

 

[surixon]

Hes still on pk1

He can PK from the fourth line just as good as from the third.

 

[CanMerc]

Rakell could slot in with Lowry and Niederreiter, making that line a bigger offensive threat. Appleton gets pushed down to the 4th/extra. A 1st and add Lucius as sweetener.

Then deal Heinola and a 4th or 5th to the Sharks for Ferraro.

Other names I’d be looking at as alternatives are Frederic, Donato, McLeod and Maatta.

Rakell is a lot of money to put on the 3rd line, but would be a good add
Ferraro would be ok, as long as it doesn’t shift Stanley to the right
No thank you to Frederic, Donato, McLeod, or Maatta

 

[NA Hockey]

Hes still on pk1

He used to be a clear leader in pk ice time and now he is just one of the guys especially now that KFC is pk'ing more often. He is just part of the rotation with Lowry, Names, Iafallo, Kupari, KFC.

Last night he played 1:19 of pk ice and only 12:48 total.

 

[Buffdog]

If that’s what we end up with, I’ll definitely be pissed…getting Risto would be wasting assets and cap space. Laughton does nothing and really adds nothing worth trading for.

Why not wait to see how they turn out before getting pissed?

Just assuming they'll be bad and reacti g to something that hasn't even happened yet doesn't make sense to me

 

[Bender Duster]

He used to be a clear leader in pk ice time and now he is just one of the guys especially now that KFC is pk'ing more often. He is just part of the rotation with Lowry, Names, Iafallo, Kupari, KFC.

Last night he played 1:19 of pk ice and only 12:48 total.

His ice time would have been lower last night because the Jets were pushing for a goal. Although that kind of tells us something, I guess.

 

[CanMerc]

Why not wait to see how they turn out before getting pissed?

Just assuming they'll be bad and reacti g to something that hasn't even happened yet doesn't make sense to me

Why wait to see if unnecessary trades matter…they fill zero of our needs.
These are the types of trades that make me want Chevy fired. Other teams address needs, while Chevy wastes assets on players we don’t need instead of addressing our holes just yo make it look like he’s doing something.
I’m tired of the mediocrity of Chevys moves and want yo see this team win a Cup…not make the playoffs, or get to a certain round, or win some irrelevant presidents trophy…win the Stanley Cup. Risto and Laughton do nothing to increase our chances at achieving that. They add nothing we don’t already have, and take assets and money we should be spending elsewhere.
The only argument for acquiring Laughton is if Chevy thinks Lowry and/or Names will work as a 2C going forward…which, in my opinion is a bad idea.
There is zero argument for acquiring Risto…just a complete waste of assets and cap.
Better to do nothing over doing something wasteful

 

[surixon]

His ice time would have been lower last night because the Jets were pushing for a goal. Although that kind of tells us something, I guess.

His ice time on the year is roughly a minute and a half less per game then last year.

 

[CanMerc]

His ice time on the year is roughly a minute and a half less per game then last year.
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Do you think they’ll re-sign him or do you think he’s gone this July. He’d be ok to keep at a reasonable cap hit, on the 4th line where he can jump to the 3rd now and then as cover for injuries or a shakeup move. The org seems to like him, they traded him away then the next year went right back and reacquired him

 

[jokesondee]

I think the Appleton ship has sailed and even Arniel knows that. He barely penalty kills anymore, he rarely plays more than 14 mins and many night's is in the 12’s or lower, and he has 17 points in 47 games. He doesn’t make plays or make anyone better and his defense while not bad is not anbove average either. He is barely a replacement level player anymore.

Yeah he's replacement level at this point. He had a really nice start to the season but has been invisible for like 30+ games now. Time to move on.

 

[Buffdog]

Why wait to see if unnecessary trades matter…they fill zero of our needs.
These are the types of trades that make me want Chevy fired. Other teams address needs, while Chevy wastes assets on players we don’t need instead of addressing our holes just yo make it look like he’s doing something.
I’m tired of the mediocrity of Chevys moves and want yo see this team win a Cup…not make the playoffs, or get to a certain round, or win some irrelevant presidents trophy…win the Stanley Cup. Risto and Laughton do nothing to increase our chances at achieving that. They add nothing we don’t already have, and take assets and money we should be spending elsewhere.
The only argument for acquiring Laughton is if Chevy thinks Lowry and/or Names will work as a 2C going forward…which, in my opinion is a bad idea.
There is zero argument for acquiring Risto…just a complete waste of assets and cap.
Better to do nothing over doing something wasteful

The reason for acquiring Risto would be if Chevy knew Pionk is walking

Every trade and signing that Chevy has made has built our depth by pushing lesser players out of the line up.

He's assembled a team that's arguably the best in the league, and he's done it with one hand tied behind his back. To suggest that he's only successful if they win the cup is stupid, IMO. He's created a team that has a chance to do that, and that's all he can do. Now the players have to do their jobs

I'm not sure what else he could have done

Basically you've set Chevy up so that all he can do is fail in your eyes. I'm not sure you understand how hard it is for a team to win the cup... even a great team. There's more involved than simple roster construction

 

[Bwadlay2]

Why wait to see if unnecessary trades matter…they fill zero of our needs.
These are the types of trades that make me want Chevy fired. Other teams address needs, while Chevy wastes assets on players we don’t need instead of addressing our holes just yo make it look like he’s doing something.
I’m tired of the mediocrity of Chevys moves and want yo see this team win a Cup…not make the playoffs, or get to a certain round, or win some irrelevant presidents trophy…win the Stanley Cup. Risto and Laughton do nothing to increase our chances at achieving that. They add nothing we don’t already have, and take assets and money we should be spending elsewhere.
The only argument for acquiring Laughton is if Chevy thinks Lowry and/or Names will work as a 2C going forward…which, in my opinion is a bad idea.
There is zero argument for acquiring Risto…just a complete waste of assets and cap.
Better to do nothing over doing something wasteful

Chevy can't pick and choose whomever he wants, Winnipeg is on most good players' no trade list. He is limited in that regard.

 

[DRW204]

Rakell could slot in with Lowry and Niederreiter, making that line a bigger offensive threat. Appleton gets pushed down to the 4th/extra. A 1st and add Lucius as sweetener.

Then deal Heinola and a 4th or 5th to the Sharks for Ferraro.

Other names I’d be looking at as alternatives are Frederic, Donato, McLeod and Maatta.

Rakell probably costs a 1st+, I think given that acquisition price they'll look at him in a top 6 role primarily. He also has 5m*2 IIRC left after this year. If it's more of a 3rd line level player/acquisition price, I'd rather go for Palmieri who was mentioned before.