Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[roccerfeller]

I've said it before and ill harp on it again - Monahan and Toffoli last year did nothing but mess with our chemistry. I think Arniel sees how dynamic our lineup is and hopefully keeps this apparent to Chevy. I wouldn't mind a 2C but at this point I'm leaning more towards "Don't fix what aint broken" because if we trade a first + a prospect for another 2C and the chemistry isn't there we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

2nd line in the past 6 games:
67.5 HDCF%
66% xGF%
60 SCF%

Only thing I want before the deadline is a d man.

I don’t think Monahan messed w the chemistry. I thought he came and fit in very nicely. Was a bit surprised he didn’t extend with us but 5 years was too much for where he’s at.

Toffoli, yes. Or maybe that combo of both of them which you may have meant overall, yes I can understand that

 

[roccerfeller]

I have been trying to think what the Jets will do at the deadline. I wouldn't doubt they add a D man but its likely a depth D. Not sure if they go big game hunter but Chevy will make the big move if he feels it will make us better.

Looking at our UFAs. I think they bring Ehlers back. Iaffalo walks, great soldier probably cost too much. Same goes for Appleton. Names they resign, useful toolkit player, won't cost a ton. I think Pionk resigns and spends the rest of his career here. There is a solid partnership developing between him and Samberg and they will then sign Samberg to a long term deal at a friendly number.

Bigger issue will be if they can sign Vilardi long term. I hope so. You got some in house replacements in Lambert,Chibs and Ford for the guys that walk and Salo is close on D.

They would be set to repeat or be close to what we are doing this year with most of the team back and Helly in net. They have some quality depth ready to play for the Moose next year with Yager,Barlow.Jacob and likely Lucuis returning. Some quality in that last draft with He and Walton really having big years. Its looking ok from a organizational depth perspective.

So what am I saying? I think they don't need to do much of anything. They tried that last year and it failed. I think stay the course with this group and let them know you believe in them. If not figure things out in the off season.

I hope we can keep Gabe. Sweetest mitts in the league and he’s finally having a healthy year so far - he’s been so aweosme


He seems to have embraced the team since he felt slighted by LA trading him last year (my impression given his reaction in the la trade videos). He’s got it pretty good and indicated earlier this year as much - top line, pp1 unit on a hot pp, not super far from his home in Ontario…he’s also still young and is going to just get better so locking him up would be great for the team. He adds a fantastic dynamic.

It would also be nice considering laine and pld didn’t want to stay w the team to lock down the key asset that came from that sequence of trades

I do think we could use more scoring depth and some better D though - playoffs are a different beast

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

I don’t think Monahan messed w the chemistry. I thought he came and fit in very nicely. Was a bit surprised he didn’t extend with us but 5 years was too much for where he’s at.

Toffoli, yes. Or maybe that combo of both of them which you may have meant overall, yes I can understand that

Thats a bit of the concern at this deadline... its a trickle down effect - Monahan and Toffoli bumped guys down the lineup and we lost our checking speed in the bottom six - which our system really relies on... then add that we had a really defined checking line - and it ended with lines 2 and 4 not being optimized...

 

[roccerfeller]

Thats a bit of the concern at this deadline... its a trickle down effect - Monahan and Toffoli bumped guys down the lineup and we lost our checking speed in the bottom six - which our system really relies on... then add that we had a really defined checking line - and it ended with lines 2 and 4 not being optimized...

That’s totally fair

But

Let’s presume there’s finally an equivalent to stastny 2017-18 at the deadline available

Do you do it? I lean with gravity towards yes

 

[roccerfeller]

I agree with this. I just don't see a center being available that would be a big enough upgrade to justify the cost.

I think there are more quality dmen in the market this year.

I would be ok with big game hunting for RHD this year. Put that player with JM, Move demelo down with a depth LHD acquisition who can replace Stanley. Having Miller as a #7 would be solid imo

 

[roccerfeller]

Alex Tuch would be a great addition.


hard no...thank god Farabee was dealt to calgary.

Tuch would be very nice.

But if Tuch leaves the buffalo area it will be 100% against his wishes. Buffalo doesn’t have a lot of top end players who would have to be dragged off the team kicking and screaming, so I can’t imagine them willingly moving on from him unless it involved a Mcdavid or MacKinnon type of player where they would have to force him to get on a plane in such a fashion, bouncers et al.

(Honestly I wish Jets had some elite winnipeg area born players who had that much of a desire to play for their home town for a multitude of personal reasons …imagine if Seth Jarvis forced a trade to winnipeg and never wanted to leave?)

 

[Jets 31]

TNSE's major investor is a real estate development fund... they assessed the Winnipeg market and know what they are doing. I'd be surprised if they haven't scooped up almost all of the downtown for a song... and once they hit a critical mass - and a critical mass of govt support - then they develop...

Problem is that within that business model - its hard not to see that selling the Jets for $2 billion is a sound move once you've developed your properties downtown.

If Chipman sold the Jets whoever buys it would probably move the team and all those newly built buildings would then be vacant again. The Jets and concerts are the only reason people go downtown right now. I remember when they at least had a bunch of bars downtown to draw people down there but the kids nowadays don't like to physically interact with another person they do it all online now.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Typically, professional athletes are Trumpers, but I wonder if there's a lefty loosey out there who could be enticed to waive a NTC to get out of the lawless republic. Perhaps current events have presented an opportunity?

 

[DRW204]

I don’t think Monahan messed w the chemistry. I thought he came and fit in very nicely. Was a bit surprised he didn’t extend with us but 5 years was too much for where he’s at.

Toffoli, yes. Or maybe that combo of both of them which you may have meant overall, yes I can understand that

Agreed. The second line chemistry was shoddy at that time. Perfetti was stinking up the joint and getting demoted. The stats with Monahan were v good.

 

[Hobble]

If Chipman sold the Jets whoever buys it would probably move the team and all those newly built buildings would then be vacant again. The Jets and concerts are the only reason people go downtown right now. I remember when they at least had a bunch of bars downtown to draw people down there but the kids nowadays don't like to physically interact with another person they do it all online now.

Doesn’t help when drinks are so overpriced now.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

That's what Portage place was supposed to do 30 years ago. Worked for a little while but suffered from the same slow decay as the older stuff it replaced. How do you attract people downtown if you can't make it safe? How can you make it safe without dealing with homelessness, addiction, mental health and poverty? Not a simple matter of building a store, hotel or condo.

It’s definitely not easy.

I know it won’t happen because TSNE have bought property downtown, but if Canada Life Ctr were in a different location (say where the football stadium is just for example), it would be much better IMO and I bet we’d shave 15% points off our no trade list placement.

 

[Jets 31]

Doesn’t help when drinks are so overpriced now.

They were always overpriced that's why half price cocktail nights were so good. Or 25 cent draft nights.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Typically, professional athletes are Trumpers, but I wonder if there's a lefty loosey out there who could be enticed to waive a NTC to get out of the lawless republic. Perhaps current events have presented an opportunity?

Not a Canadian, but I wonder if the whole tariffs/ Canada as 51st state nonsense might rub some Canadian-born players the wrong way, and make home a more attractive place to play?

IIRC there were several players who spoke of anting to be back in Canada during the Covid years.

At any rate, the Jets are right back in the mix of Cup contenders, maybe even at the top of that mix. That would have some drawing power I'd think.

 

[Heldig]

But no Edmonton.

McDavid and Draistl are pretty good ambassadors.

Question about the survey..."No good food"? Winnipeg has always had a great food scene. Is there nothing near the arena anymore? Is that the issue.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Amazing how a trip to the cup changes things - I remember when Oilers were on this list. Not even on the 1.22% now (the fine print portion)


It goes to show you how hard Chevy’s job is

And how incredible it is we have a top team in the league right now.

people rip on players throughout the years…including scheif (at times) and wheeler but man
26 put roots in the community. 33 was a mainstay until he didn’t want to play hockey any more.

55 and 37 extended to be lifers. Yes Ehlers may leave but he’s put 10 years with the team. Lowry and Morrissey have put roots in the city.

Seeing that poll Makes me want to root for the Jets more than I already do because it is the ultimate perennial underdog team.

The airport drive is awful -- but then, the Heathrow and Gatwick drives are awful. Airports are airports, and they don't tend to be built in lovely parks.

The food angle I don't get at all -- I know some of the restos there have not survived the upheavals of recent years but we loved the food scene there, from mum n' pop to classic neighbourhood joints like Viva to bistros and higher-end restos like Deer & A and the old Sydney's, etc.

That's just bollocks. Tons of great places to eat out in WPG, and you don't need to look too hard to find 'em.

We can easily pay 3-4x what we did there and have relatively crap fare. With lousy service to boot.

 

[gojetsgo]

22. Winnipeg (among others) will get down to contract business during the 4 Nations break. During my brief trip to the Manitoba capital, the quote that struck me most was from Dylan DeMelo. “This is where I wanted to be,” he said about re-signing last summer. “I love that (management) doubled down on what we have.”
Apparently, exit meetings last year were brutally honest about what went wrong against Colorado and what needed to happen to avoid a repeat. Players showed up in great condition, they started strong and haven’t looked back. The most mystery surrounds Nikolaj Ehlers, and his teammates didn’t want to speak for him. As written above, we are in a new era, and it’s hard to predict where all of this is going. What the Jets did say was that players want to win more than anything else, and thanks to Hellebuyck, they believe they have that chance.

 

[Huffer]

Not a TD comment, but I wonder if M Petterssons 5.5 X 6 could be looked at as a possible comp for Samberg? Samberg slightly younger, but Pettersson has put up more points (which can drive contracts up), although neither are in the "point producer" role.

With the cap going up I really thought MP would have gotten more, so I'm optimistic they can sign Samberg long term to a good number (if he's willing).

 

[Buffdog]

Not a TD comment, but I wonder if M Petterssons 5.5 X 6 could be looked at as a possible comp for Samberg? Samberg slightly younger, but Pettersson has put up more points (which can drive contracts up), although neither are in the "point producer" role.

With the cap going up I really thought MP would have gotten more, so I'm optimistic they can sign Samberg long term to a good number (if he's willing).

I'd sign Samberg to that in a heartbeat

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

Tuch would be very nice.

But if Tuch leaves the buffalo area it will be 100% against his wishes. Buffalo doesn’t have a lot of top end players who would have to be dragged off the team kicking and screaming, so I can’t imagine them willingly moving on from him unless it involved a Mcdavid or MacKinnon type of player where they would have to force him to get on a plane in such a fashion, bouncers et al.

(Honestly I wish Jets had some elite winnipeg area born players who had that much of a desire to play for their home town for a multitude of personal reasons …imagine if Seth Jarvis forced a trade to winnipeg and never wanted to leave?)

Jarvis was available at #10. Jets chose Perfetti.

 

[Flair Hay]

Not a TD comment, but I wonder if M Petterssons 5.5 X 6 could be looked at as a possible comp for Samberg? Samberg slightly younger, but Pettersson has put up more points (which can drive contracts up), although neither are in the "point producer" role.

With the cap going up I really thought MP would have gotten more, so I'm optimistic they can sign Samberg long term to a good number (if he's willing).

Maybe a slight discount on Samberg with RFA vs UFA but I think that can become a comp for sure

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

22. Winnipeg (among others) will get down to contract business during the 4 Nations break. During my brief trip to the Manitoba capital, the quote that struck me most was from Dylan DeMelo. “This is where I wanted to be,” he said about re-signing last summer. “I love that (management) doubled down on what we have.”
Apparently, exit meetings last year were brutally honest about what went wrong against Colorado and what needed to happen to avoid a repeat. Players showed up in great condition, they started strong and haven’t looked back. The most mystery surrounds Nikolaj Ehlers, and his teammates didn’t want to speak for him. As written above, we are in a new era, and it’s hard to predict where all of this is going. What the Jets did say was that players want to win more than anything else, and thanks to Hellebuyck, they believe they have that chance.

23. Thinks Rickard Rakell would be a perfect fit for Winnipeg

He's had a fantastic year playing alongside Crosby, but where would he fit in on the Jets?

Connor – Scheifele – Vilardi
Ehlers – Lowry – Rackell
Niederreiter –Namestikov – Perfetti
Iafollo – Kuppari – Appleton

Any forward acquisition is going to come at a roster forward's expense. Iafollo, Gustaffson, Barron, perhaps even Kuppari would have to be dealt.

Rackell has a cap hit of $5 million & is signed 3 years beyond this season. Ehlers?

It's not a hard no, but I'm not sure if Rakell is the "perfect fit" as is suggested.

 

[gojetsgo]

23. Thinks Rickard Rakell would be a perfect fit for Winnipeg

He's had a fantastic year playing alongside Crosby, but where would he fit in on the Jets?

Connor – Scheifele – Vilardi
Ehlers – Lowry – Rackell
Niederreiter –Namestikov – Perfetti
Iafollo – Kuppari – Appleton

Any forward acquisition is going to come at a roster forward's expense. Iafollo, Gustaffson, Barron, perhaps even Kuppari would have to be dealt.

Rackell also has term. Ehlers?

23. Thought Rickard Rakell would be a perfect fit for Winnipeg, but don’t believe that’s likely.

 

[Huffer]

Maybe a slight discount on Samberg with RFA vs UFA but I think that can become a comp for sure

I was thinking about that as well. Not sure if Samberg has 1 more UFA year or 2. He's only had 4 seasons, but he also turns 27 next year. So it looks like he's be a UFA based on his age as opposed to seasons. The question is does it mean that 2025/2026 is a RFA year, but 2026/2027 is a UFA year because he turns 27 in January of that year?

But that will be a factor for sure.

 

[Moloch]

Thats a bit of the concern at this deadline... its a trickle down effect - Monahan and Toffoli bumped guys down the lineup and we lost our checking speed in the bottom six - which our system really relies on... then add that we had a really defined checking line - and it ended with lines 2 and 4 not being optimized...

This is more of what im talking about, it wasn't that the 2nd line suffered from the acquisitions, I think the fact that players got bumped is what messed things up

 

[surixon]

This is more of what im talking about, it wasn't that the 2nd line suffered from the acquisitions, I think the fact that players got bumped is what messed things up

The second line got a lot slower as a result of the acquisitions and as a result the Avs were able to skate circles around them.