Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[hockeyarena]

Also, I seriously

Didn't their GM come out and say they wouldn't be trading any of their top 6?

Classic trumpesque negotiation tactic.

 

[Buffdog]

If we can only have 1, I go for the Dman.
I've been pushing the idea of a top 4 RHD for years. A 2 way guy with size who could push Pionk out or DeMelo down. But both are playing so well this year it is not the need it used to be. I'd still like to get a better partner for JMo but the pair of him and DeMelo is working. So I would settle for a solid upgrade on the 3rd pair, either L or R.

A RHD who was good enough defensively and also big and physical would fill the need for size that keeps Stan in the lineup. It would free the options of Heinola and Fleury. Or, the other way, get a good, big, mobile LHD who pushes Stan into the PB.

I think that is the best way 1 player could improve the Jets without disrupting what we have.

Do you have anyone in mind? Those are tough to come by

 

[DRW204]

Boeser also has some ties to Jets management and apparently a good relationship, they wanted to draft him before getting KFC and definitely would have with their next pick but the Nucks picked him up, it could be a possibility, but then we really need to try Gabe as 2C, run Ehlers top line and then have Fetts/Gabe/Boeser.

yup that's been the speculation for years.
i agree that we probably should've tried some different combos in the top-6. however i think they will not break up CSV at this point. IMO they should try for the best top-6 Fwd available, whether it be Wing or C. The Winger market is usually a large supply so easier to find compared to a Center.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

maybe this will put to rest the ehlers getting traded speculation

Only guys saying ehlers would be traded is the perfetti fanclub and the anti stats nerds

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Yeah I don't get it either. We're paying a previously similar cap hit player in Schmidt to not play here for a couple years, but let's go get 5m+ Risto to play third pair? So we're back to where we are last year for cap expenditure.

And if it's to cushion a Pionk departure I really hope they go an alternate route than Risto.

The risto deal made sense if you go
Jomo-demelo
Samberg-risto
Miller-pionk

But its very clear that stan has to be on the roster so fk it...

 

[raideralex99]

Do you have anyone in mind? Those are tough to come by

Luke Schenn 6"2" 225 lbs RH ....$2.75 M ... 1 year left after this season

 

[DRW204]

Can't forget about the Lowry 2C experiment that put up great numbers, albeit in a small sample size. I think when Lowry is healthy and returns to the lineup if they put him back on 2C it will signal that we're more likely to work with what we have and look at the blueline for an upgrade. But who knows. Although Nik looked better when he played with Adam, breaking up the shutdown line might not be the best idea.

what is the incremental upside in scoring lowry at 2c vs namestnikov really?

according to moneypuck:
ehlers-lowry-iafallo were 2GF 1GA (2.5 GF/60)
ehlers-namestnikov-perfetti are 17GF 8GA (2.8 GF/60), & that's w/ Perfetti who can barely put the puck in the net at 5v5.
the xGF numbers are better for the first trio, however, not even 60 mins played (& don't remember the opponents) so not sure how confident you are in forecasting how they will be into the future based on any of these numbers.

but looking at lowry and names recent seasons and career offensive production: they are not to far off each other. like you said it was only a few games so hard to make any conclusions, but based on the players that names and lowry have been over their career i don't know how much more/incremental offense you can really get there.

id be fine w/ either of them at 2C, but think they need an additional winger to help push for offense as i don't really see either of those 2 as catalysts or top-6 level of producers offensively.

The risto deal made sense if you go
Jomo-demelo
Samberg-risto
Miller-pionk

But its very clear that stan has to be on the roster so fk it...

this makes even less sense

 

[gojetsgo]

seravalli put everyone's fav on his trade bait board, casey mittelstadt

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

The risto deal made sense if you go
Jomo-demelo
Samberg-risto
Miller-pionk

But its very clear that stan has to be on the roster so fk it...

Miller's numbers have always been good-very good in sheltered minutes & that's continued in Winnipeg. I'm fine with our present right side.

With that said, many have questioned usage after acquisition last season & this has continued with what have been apparent healthy scratches several times this season. One has to wonder if he's dealing with something, because he's clearly played his way as the best option at RD3.

Assuming he's fine & Chevy just wants an upgrade on the bottom pairing rather than overhauling the top 4, I'd suggest the the best target be at LD3 & certainly throwing 2 RHD on the same pairing. Jet's at noon were suggesting "getting a Logan Stanley would can play" & chasing 6'7" Jamie Oleksiak who was added to Seravelli's top 10 trade targets today.

 

[RustyCat]

Luke Schenn 6"2" 225 lbs RH ....$2.75 M ... 1 year left after this season

He'd be a good pick up. Also on the right side would be Radko Gudas. 4m after this season and the guy is actually a good defenceman on top of being extremely physical.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Miller's numbers have always been good-very good in sheltered minutes & that's continued in Winnipeg. I'm fine with our present right side.

With that said, many have questioned usage after acquisition last season & this has continued with what have been apparent healthy scratches several times this season. One has to wonder if he's dealing with something, because he's clearly played his way as the best option at RD3.

Assuming he's fine & Chevy just wants an upgrade on the bottom pairing rather than overhauling the top 4, I'd suggest the the best target be at LD3 & certainly throwing 2 RHD on the same pairing. Jet's at noon were suggesting "getting a Logan Stanley would can play" & chasing 6'7" Jamie Oleksiak who was added to Seravelli's top 10 trade targets today.

Id take Oleksiak 100x over Risto and put oleksiak on our top pairing... i just dont think hes in play - whats the incentive for seattle?

 

[Upperdeckjet]

No one wears a Jersey with number 8 at the moment. Jacob Trouba?......Nah......Maybe?

 

[Gil Fisher]

what is the incremental upside in scoring lowry at 2c vs namestnikov really?

according to moneypuck:
ehlers-lowry-iafallo were 2GF 1GA (2.5 GF/60)
ehlers-namestnikov-perfetti are 17GF 8GA (2.8 GF/60), & that's w/ Perfetti who can barely put the puck in the net at 5v5.

Not taking issue with anything important, just wanted to note that Perfetti scores 5v5 comfortably in the second line forward tier, right there with Bennett, Rossi, Marchenko, Huberdeau, etc.

 

[DRW204]

Not taking issue with anything important, just wanted to note that Perfetti scores 5v5 comfortably in the second line forward tier, right there with Bennett, Rossi, Marchenko, Huberdeau, etc.

He has 4 goals at 5v5

Marchenko has 15
Rossi, Bennett have 11
Huberdeau has 10

6-11 more goals would put that line close to CSV net of TOI and maybe an overall different sentiment on here about their performance.

Pts/60 have Marchenko and Rossi are way ahead of the other players too. Then Bennett. Then Huberdeau and Perfetti who are close. Think you may be looking at a different stat?

 

[MardyBum]

Miller's numbers have always been good-very good in sheltered minutes & that's continued in Winnipeg. I'm fine with our present right side.

With that said, many have questioned usage after acquisition last season & this has continued with what have been apparent healthy scratches several times this season. One has to wonder if he's dealing with something, because he's clearly played his way as the best option at RD3.

Assuming he's fine & Chevy just wants an upgrade on the bottom pairing rather than overhauling the top 4, I'd suggest the the best target be at LD3 & certainly throwing 2 RHD on the same pairing. Jet's at noon were suggesting "getting a Logan Stanley would can play" & chasing 6'7" Jamie Oleksiak who was added to Seravelli's top 10 trade targets today.

Why is this the first thing a lot of people go to? Maybe they just f***ing love Stanley and thats why he's been their #5 D all year regardless of play or health of others? Sure seems like it's the case with Miller being declared healthy and still sitting so Stanley could experiment on his offside.

Oleksiak has been one of Seattles worst dmen this year. If you're going to trade for "big" trade for someone good. I've hated on him for years but Risto clears him, and regardless of what people think, Stanley is going to find his way into starting playoff games just like last year because They Love Him

 

[Adam da bomb]

He has been good when he has played, even having to adapt to playing RS. But Arniel wants Stanley's size so Heinola sits. If they had a RHD with the size and physicality that he wants there is no reason not to play Heinola.

He has played less than 20 games. I don’t feel comfortable trusting a guy in playoffs with less than 20 games.

 

[Gil Fisher]

He has 4 goals at 5v5

Marchenko has 15
Rossi, Bennett have 11
Huberdeau has 10

6-11 more goals would put that line close to CSV net of TOI and maybe an overall different sentiment on here about their performance.

Pts/60 have Marchenko and Rossi are way ahead of the other players too. Then Bennett. Then Huberdeau and Perfetti who are close. Think you may be looking at a different stat?

I'm looking at 2.5 years. Better sample size.

and points per 60

they're all around 1.75

 

[blues10]

The Jets sent a nice coaster set to SSH holders today. Nice photos of Helle, Lowry, Connor, Scheifele Morrisey and Vilardi with his own coaster. No Ehlers. They must be moving on from him.
It will be interesting to see what Chevy does. I don’t expect Ehlers to be moved.
I think Colorado and Chicago work something out around Jones and Mitts.

 

[Crocket]

PLD has requested a trade back to Winnipeg

 

[Gil Fisher]

The Jets sent a nice coaster set to SSH holders today. Nice photos of Helle, Lowry, Connor, Scheifele Morrisey and Vilardi with his own coaster. No Ehlers. They must be moving on from him.
It will be interesting to see what Chevy does. I don’t expect Ehlers to be moved.
I think Colorado and Chicago work something out around Jones and Mitts.

It was a very nice gift. A lot better than the paper apron and Adam Lowry chicken recipe

 

[robertocarlos]

Only guys saying ehlers would be traded is the perfetti fanclub and the anti stats nerds

You forgot about the Dutch haters.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

He has played less than 20 games. I don’t feel comfortable trusting a guy in playoffs with less than 20 games.

Well play him the last 20 games of the season then.

 

[Shlep]

I cant believe im saying this but im starting to lean towards the "Not really broke so dont fix it" scenario when it comes to our 2C. Having said that i'd be all for adding Brock Nelson or another truly impactful center, but at the moment i think our glaring need is a big strong top 6 d-man.

I partially agree, there are moves that would make sense, but we don't want another situation like last year where we make a move for the sake of making a move and messes up the chemistry that's working. The Jets were at their best last year too when Namestnikov was 2C.

 

[AlaskaJet]

I’d switch ia and Barron.

Certainly gives a lot more net-front crashing presence to that third line while holding on to good fast 2-way defence.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Well play him the last 20 games of the season then.

yeah, but, by then it’s too late to get a better option. Would rather bring in a guy who has been playing all season.