Channelcat
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I'd love to have him here in 13th F role, but I'm guessing his camp doesn't even consider that. It would be a huge W for the organization and a revenue generator.
Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread
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Huffer
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Agreed. The hypothetical proposals need to take more things into account. Although some people seem fine to only ever look 1 step ahead.
Personally while it would fit a nice need, I consider his contract to be pretty poor value ATM.
He might very well be tired of losing and see value in going to a perennial playoff team with cup aspirations and the core signed long term instead of a team on the cusp of or straight up rebuilding.
toews probably only signs with a contender, why else come back if it's not for a PO/cup push?
a contender probably has 9+ fwds better than him already, who knows if he can even handle top-6 time.
imo, the Jets are a contender, he'd be a bottom6 guy here ~10m/night with some PK opportunity, maybe PP2. I think that's a desirable role from his POV.
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I would pay Samberg more to get more term.
No way I go that far for Pionk.
Ehlers is probably about right but he might get more if he goes to market - depending on his play the rest of the way.
I would like more term from Vilardi too.
kylbaz
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Wonder if Vilardi would want to stay here. Didn't he love LA and his gf was from there?
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If we keep Perfetti and Ehlers walks is our top 6 better than it would be if we swapped Perfetti and Barzal? In this hypothetical Ehlers walks either way. Barzal does more for our top 6 than Perfetti does so including Perfetti in the package should not be a problem.
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Yeah, that makes it possible, but only just. There would be a lot of teams bidding for him. They would all need to find ways to fit his contract. Just watch F**k Vegas LTIR Stone again and he ends up there.
Good question. He seems pretty happy here. Not to mention that LA is on fire right now. He could still spend off-seasons there.
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What do people here think of Teuvo Teravainen? Good fit at 2C? Could he be available? Would he come here?
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If you trade Perfetti and Ehlers re-signs you're still looking at replacing 1 top 6 forward. If you trade Perfetti and Ehlers walks now it's 2. That's because we're already starting from a position of needing another top 6 forward to our current roster. (This is slightly lessened with the move to blend the lines, but just calling that out).
For the first scenario (need to replace 1 top 6 forward), if someone is super high on Lambert or Chibrikov, or think we can find someone in the market (trade, UFA, etc.) then they won't think it's as big of a deal. At worst the team has the same amount of top 6ers that they started with (Perfetti/Ehlers to Barzal/Ehlers in this example). Then it;s more of a cap thing. But I would agree that Ehlers/Barzal is a much stronger starting point than Ehlers/Perfetti. It's just that with the first two, the cap is much higher so there's less room for that other player.
For scenario 2, now the team goes into next season needing to fill two top 6 spots, as we already had a need for one when we had both Perfetti and Ehlers. And you add to the fact that Perfetti is only going to cost 3.25 next year. So now you've subtracted 9.25 (Ehlers and Perfetti) and added 9.15 in one player (Barzal). So now you need to fill in 2 top 6 spots, not 1, and you have potentially the same amount of space to add 2 as you would have to add 1 (not quite as Ehlers would need a raise and Perfetti too soon but I think you get the jist). And you've also lost a potential prospect that you might have hoped could fill in that spot in the trade, or potentially that prospect and or pick that could have been used in a trade to get a player for the top 6.
I'm just saying we need to look at how 1 move might impact your roster makeup and cap, and how it affects filling in the other pieces.
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I do like how the lines are arranged at the moment. When Names and Appleton return, they replace Gus and Toni on the 4th line.
If Kupari could only just score at a reasonable rate, there's size, speed and skill on each line with the top line being one of the better scoring lines in the league. But alas, Kupari likely needs to be upgraded for the playoffs with either Chytil or Nelson as key targets for me.
On D, when healthy, I would like to see an Oleksiak or Dumoulin type acquired to replace Stanley on the bottom pair. The other pairings could get it done, if Pionk isn't overwhelmed with playoff speed as he was last year.
If Kupari could only just score at a reasonable rate, there's size, speed and skill on each line with the top line being one of the better scoring lines in the league. But alas, Kupari likely needs to be upgraded for the playoffs with either Chytil or Nelson as key targets for me.
On D, when healthy, I would like to see an Oleksiak or Dumoulin type acquired to replace Stanley on the bottom pair. The other pairings could get it done, if Pionk isn't overwhelmed with playoff speed as he was last year.
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I would say Namestnikov probably goes back to the 3rd line, with Perfetti and Nino. And it's really just Ehlers and Nino swapping places in the newly reconfigured 2/3 lines, with Appleton out.
And Kupari and Barron go back to being the grind 4th line. A line that takes some defensive zone draws. Maybe Appleton lands here coming back. And it will be interesting to see who comes out if the Jets add.
PK guys are Iafallo/Lowry, Barron/Kupari (who has mixed results), Connor/Namestnikov I believe.
If the Jets added a guy like Granlund, they might just take Perfetti out and keep Namestnikov in the middle since he's a better C on the dot, and pretty good neutral zone center. And you can shuffle parts around if you don't like the looks you're getting.
I don't think the Jets are too worried about Pionk and speed, up until game 5 he had better results in his pairings than Morrissey-De Melo.
Getting closer to health I wonder though if it's not Fleury-Miller, Stanley/Heinola/Coghlan the Jets run. And where that leads to. Fleury is coming back in by the weekend I suspect, according to Arny.
I also wonder about the possibility of trading Chibrikov for help, and keeping all of the team's draft picks for once. Or most of them.
Not saying I like the idea, but if you have to move a guy who is NHL ready but untested in the NHL, looking to move up to a higher level and pay grade, it's from a position of depth. Especially if you want to open up the RW positions to guys like Lambert, Lucius or Ford.
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