Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Mortimer Snerd]

Could be because they know Heinola has had experience at other levels on both sides. One has experience at a position, but, is a rookie the other has never played the other side, but, as far they are concerned as many other valuable attributes.
They also know they don’t have a 4th guy on the other side of Heinola can make it work his chances of staying are greater than a side that they have depth at.

Not sure but I remember somebody coming up with an answer to when and how much Heinola had played the right side. It was very little and quite a while ago. Meanwhile, Stan has played a few games on the right side with the Jets. I'm not certain of either one so I stand to be corrected.

May not matter going forward anyway. Tonight's game seems to show that he is adapting to it pretty well. Odd because passing is a big part of his game and that is much harder for a Dman on his off-side. But that doesn't matter if the results are there.

 

[kylbaz]

I agree with a lot of what your saying but I also think this org can be to stubborn with its top prospects and hold them too long.

Look at Vesalainen, instead of dealing him while he still had some value, they elected to try to deconstruct and reconstruct his entire game to try to get him to play a depth role. Why bother, you can find third and fourth line wingers fairly easily. By doing so they lost an asset for nothing.

With Ville once it became apparent that the org was set on a one, two and three of JoMo, Snerg, and Tree they should have been looking for a taker for Ville. Instead we've kept him into his waiver years where his value is likely next to nothing and are trying to force him into playing his offside here. Once again trying to force a high pick into a role Instead of trading them while they have value and we know through some reports that teams once highly valued him.

I hope we don't see similar with Brad and Chibrikov over the next few years. Either create a pathway or move them while their value is high.

You think Vesalainen at any time had value?

 

[surixon]

You think Vesalainen at any time had value?

He was solid until his d plus 4 year. He had an excellent D plus 1 and was solid enough his d plus 2 and 3 years. He went half a ppg in his d plus 3 which was good enough for third on the Moose and is a better ppg then McGroarty is currently doing at the same age in the AHL.

 

[kylbaz]

He was solid until his d plus 4 year. He had an excellent D plus 1 and was solid enough his d plus 2 and 3 years. He went half a ppg in his d plus 3 which was good enough for third on the Moose and is a better ppg then McGroarty is currently doing at the same age in the AHL.

Personally thought he was a terrible pick at the time and looked slow and terrible after. He fell off here rather quick and I couldn't imagine anyone giving up much for him. Imo

 

[DRW204]

You think Vesalainen at any time had value?

Yes he was rated high in some of the league wide prospect rankings in 2018 and 2019.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I would be looking at the Rags as a partner. We have trade history with them and they seem ripe for the picking again. A guy like Chytil could use a new home and he has the tools the Jets seem to covet, size and skill. I would love Schneider but I don't think the Rags are that brain dead to move him. But Borgen could be a solid depth pickup. Move some draft capital and a good prospect for those 2

 

[Whileee]

I would be looking at the Rags as a partner. We have trade history with them and they seem ripe for the picking again. A guy like Chytil could use a new home and he has the tools the Jets seem to covet, size and skill. I would love Schneider but I don't think the Rags are that brain dead to move him. But Borgen could be a solid depth pickup. Move some draft capital and a good prospect for those 2

I like the idea of Chytil for the Jets 2/3 line C. Not sure about Borgen. Is he much better than Coghlan?

I wonder if the Jets might look at Risto to add size and speed on their D. They don't look like a good matchup for Vegas at this point.

 

[Bob E]

Risto could be a nice add if he continues to play like he has the last 3 months and not like the previous 6 years.

I do like his size and physicality, sorely missing on this current d group.

 

[Buffdog]

I like the idea of Chytil for the Jets 2/3 line C. Not sure about Borgen. Is he much better than Coghlan?

I wonder if the Jets might look at Risto to add size and speed on their D. They don't look like a good matchup for Vegas at this point.

I wonder if they could expand the deal to include Frost. Not sure exactly what the cost would be, or what the cap looks like (depends on when the deal is made)

At some point the org is going to have to do something about Lowrys line and icetime allocation. He won't be able to handle teams top lines as he ages. Hopefully they go to 3 scoring lines, and Frost could centre one (Schief and Yager the others eventually)

 

[Whileee]

I wonder if they could expand the deal to include Frost. Not sure exactly what the cost would be, or what the cap looks like (depends on when the deal is made)

At some point the org is going to have to do something about Lowrys line and icetime allocation. He won't be able to handle teams top lines as he ages. Hopefully they go to 3 scoring lines, and Frost could centre one (Schief and Yager the others eventually)

I'm not sure Frost is an upgrade on Namestnikov. He's not particularly big or fast, and I think that's what that line needs at C.

 

[voyageur]

I would be looking at the Rags as a partner. We have trade history with them and they seem ripe for the picking again. A guy like Chytil could use a new home and he has the tools the Jets seem to covet, size and skill. I would love Schneider but I don't think the Rags are that brain dead to move him. But Borgen could be a solid depth pickup. Move some draft capital and a good prospect for those 2

I'd really like to get Ryan Lindgren out of there. One more top 4 d-man for this team. Maybe you even play him shutdown with Dylan Samberg, if you want to mix up the deck at any time.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Nino had Roman Josi over for dinner at his house last night, just saying. (source: nino pre game interview)

Dare to dream

 

[WolfHouse]

Personally thought he was a terrible pick at the time and looked slow and terrible after. He fell off here rather quick and I couldn't imagine anyone giving up much for him. Imo

Think we were hoping hed be pals with Laine...

 

[DRW204]

I've been on Risto since last year the guy really seems to have turned it around. I don't think he's a top pair player but on a 2nd or 3rd pair I think he would be great and would add some grit that they lost with Dillon leaving but on the right side which works better for the Jets deployment. 2nd in 2026 3rd in 2027 and Rashevsky. For Risto @ 20% retention.

Jake McCabe @50% (2 years remaining) plus Laferty (1 year remaining) went for a conditional 1st a 2nd and a couple of depth prospects a few years ago. I think in terms of value McCabe and Risto are pretty similar. There's a million less in retention so that lowers the return a bit.

Maybe there's a bigger trade to be had there with Risto and Frost for a 1st plus? That starts to get complicated.

i think the Jets already have enough 2nd or 3rd pair guys tbh. Pionk has been performing as a good 2RD next to Samberg this year. Demelo i know was shit on a lot this year, but i think he's been better as of late, ideally he's probably a 2RD too in ideal circumstances.

Risto while has been better in Philly, if you don't think he's a top pair guy, he just gets added to the fold of other non-top pair guys the Jets have? doesn't move the needle as much right now.

in the off-season i think there could be some traction in acquiring RD..... it starts with the Pionk decision though.
he's playing at a career high 57 pt pace with no real huge change in usage. most recent full years he is in the low-mid 30s.
50+ pt dmen that get 20+ mins a night get paid handsomely it wouldn't surprise me if he's in the 7s on a new contract. if they sign him i don't see them bringing in another high ticket player.

 

[Gil Fisher]

What about JJ Peterka as a low key 2C target?

 

[Wpgpage]

What about JJ Peterka as a low key 2C target?

Hasn't really played any C in the NHL

i think the Jets already have enough 2nd or 3rd pair guys tbh. Pionk has been performing as a good 2RD next to Samberg this year. Demelo i know was shit on a lot this year, but i think he's been better as of late, ideally he's probably a 2RD too in ideal circumstances.

Risto while has been better in Philly, if you don't think he's a top pair guy, he just gets added to the fold of other non-top pair guys the Jets have? doesn't move the needle as much

I think everyone would prefer for them to add a legit top pairing guy but given how hard those guys are to acquire if you are a destination never mind Winnipeg the chances of being able to get that player is pretty low. They have the hardest thing to get in a legit #1 if they can't get a true #2 I think the next best thing is to have 4 #3/4 guys behind him.

 

[10Ducky10]

What about JJ Peterka as a low key 2C target?

He's been playing on the wing but I would love to get him on the team.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Hasn't really played any C in the NHL

He's been playing on the wing but I would love to get him on the team.

Is he a C by trade? I just noticed him listed as a C on Puckpedia.

 

[10Ducky10]

Is he a C by trade? I just noticed him listed as a C on Puckpedia.

I don't think he's played center since he's joined the NHL.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I don't think he's played center since he's joined the NHL.

Back to the drawing board.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I'd really like to get Ryan Lindgren out of there. One more top 4 d-man for this team. Maybe you even play him shutdown with Dylan Samberg, if you want to mix up the deck at any time.

A package for Chytil and Lindgren (pending UFA) would be expensive, but fit the bill. Could include some pending UFAs going the other way. Stanley, Iafallo, Appleton, Namestnikov...we gave a fair few. Be nice to keep the forwards around.

Jack McBain would be a great 2C. Decent scoring, size, speed, fists, Jets royalty.

Boone Jenner is due back March 1. He has a year left and an 8 team no trade. Feel like Chevy has been interested before.

 

[Thechozen1]

A package for Chytil and Lindgren (pending UFA) would be expensive, but fit the bill. Could include some pending UFAs going the other way. Stanley, Iafallo, Appleton, Namestnikov...we gave a fair few. Be nice to keep the forwards around.

Jack McBain would be a great 2C. Decent scoring, size, speed, fists, Jets royalty.

Boone Jenner is due back March 1. He has a year left and an 8 team no trade. Feel like Chevy has been interested before.

A package of McBain and Maatta is enticing. I don’t see why UHC trades McBain, but I’d offer up a package including Barlow and Heinola to get it done.

Let’s face it, Ville will need a change of scenery to try and reach his potential.

 

[AtomicJets]

A package of McBain and Maatta is enticing. I don’t see why UHC trades McBain, but I’d offer up a package including Barlow and Heinola to get it done.

Let’s face it, Ville will need a change of scenery to try and reach his potential.

This is the worst trade I've ever seen proposed on this entire website. Two first rounders for spare parts that wouldn't even make our lineup. McBain has 9 goals on a 25% shooting percentage, coming off the hottest streak of his career. Maatta has tried and failed to make an impact on five teams. He's closer to Liiga than he is to making an impact in the NHL. What an absolutely insane take this is. Hall of Fame bad take.

 

[tbcwpg]

This is the worst trade I've ever seen proposed on this entire website. Two first rounders for spare parts that wouldn't even make our lineup. McBain has 9 goals on a 25% shooting percentage, coming off the hottest streak of his career. Maatta has tried and failed to make an impact on five teams. He's closer to Liiga than he is to making an impact in the NHL. What an absolutely insane take this is. Hall of Fame bad take.

Heinola may have been a 1st rounder 4 and a half years ago but he doesn't carry that value now.

 

[Canucks LB]

Q&A: Canucks GM Patrik Allvin expects more from top players in 2025

In 2024, the Canucks have given their fans much to be thankful for — but, they've also failed many nights to play to their standard. Iain MacIntyre sits down with GM Patrik Allvin to discuss why the team has struggled with consistency and reflect on the season thus far.

www.sportsnet.ca

This is absolutely blowing up in Vancouver right now by the way.
Looks like Pettersson is available
Allvin went on blast basically, Not sure what you guys would offer, or how seriously you would be interested, He would obviously need a Haul.
But, just thought I would share and get your guys opinions!
Not everyday a 90+ Center with great Defensive abilities becomes available.

Thoughts?