Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Bob E]

Agreed, but the key idea is buy low. Especially for a guy who's currently not earning his current contract.

Don’t disagree but what do we have that Buffalo would take in exchange for Cozens that is similar value (age, potential, etc)

Cap is likely to escalate quickly in the next few years, and 53M for the top 7 is likely to be fine.

The bigger issue is that only one of the top 7 is a D. Jets probably need another top-end D to balance their roster.

With 2 - $4+M d in DeMelo and Samberg (soon). Will still need some ELCs or other league minimum deals to fill out the roster.

 

[10Ducky10]

I could definitely get behind that tbh. Not sure what the package looks like if Perfetti isn’t involved. Lambert or Yager, ++?

I'd hold onto Yager and Salmon...anyone else would be available from the minors.
JMo, Samberg, Volare, 55, 81 and Perfetti are also off the table.

Pionk and Nino for Cozens at 1m retained.

 

[Huffer]

Don’t disagree but what do we have that Buffalo would take in exchange for Cozens that is similar value (age, potential, etc)


With 2 - $4+M d in DeMelo and Samberg (soon). Will still need some ELCs or other league minimum deals to fill out the roster.

I think a potential issue is that the Jets and Sabres might not be really good trade partners. We could use a 2C and RHD help and those are the very same areas of need for the Sabres.

Unless they decide to be ok with futures, which they might not be with their current struggles.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

True. $9M might be wishful thinking by the end of the season.


I could definitely get behind that tbh. Not sure what the package looks like if Perfetti isn’t involved. Lambert or Yager, ++?

Lambert +(+)

But Buffalo may be willing to sell low(ish) but for veteran players, not futures. Or a mix of the 2. The + might be something like Nino, who I would not want to lose. Or DeMelo, they need RHD. But we can't afford to move a RHD unless we have a way of acquiring one.

If we could send a futures package to Calgary for a RHD then we could send a RHD to Buffalo. But this gets too fanciful in a hurry. The fact is we may not be the best partner to get Cozens from Sabres. Our team is built on depth, rather than stars. We can't trade away that depth.

 

[Bob E]

I think a potential issue is that the Jets and Sabres might not be really good trade partners. We could use a 2C and RHD help and those are the very same areas of need for the Sabres.

Unless they decide to be ok with futures, which they might not be with their current struggles.

Agreed.

 

[Bob E]

Lambert +(+)

But Buffalo may be willing to sell low(ish) but for veteran players, not futures. Or a mix of the 2. The + might be something like Nino, who I would not want to lose. Or DeMelo, they need RHD. But we can't afford to move a RHD unless we have a way of acquiring one.

If we could send a futures package to Calgary for a RHD then we could send a RHD to Buffalo. But this gets too fanciful in a hurry. The fact is we may not be the best partner to get Cozens from Sabres. Our team is built on depth, rather than stars. We can't trade away that depth.

Agreed Mort. Though we will still need a 2C for this playoff run and future runs if Cozens isn’t a target.

 

[snowkiddin]

Who's to say Perfetti falters and Cozens takes off though? That's the point. Maybe it happens, but it's all just conjecture and hope.

I'm not anti Cousins, bit he's a reclamation project at this point. Moving Perfetti is an overpay.

Sorry I missed your 17,000th post. Congrats on the milestone!

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Agreed Mort. Though we will still need a 2C for this playoff run and future runs if Cozens isn’t a target.

I say stay with Names unless we can get a real clear upgrade. I'm not sure that cozens would be that. Though I would like to find out, if we could get him for the right price.

Nelson might be it for 1 year. But there goes another 1st rd pick for a rental.

 

[voyageur]

I say stay with Names unless we can get a real clear upgrade. I'm not sure that cozens would be that. Though I would like to find out, if we could get him for the right price.

Nelson might be it for 1 year. But there goes another 1st rd pick for a rental.

This is an interesting discussion and I am still on the fence here. There are 4 Cs in the West right now that have more points than Mark Scheifele. MacKinnon, Draisaitl, Mc David and Eichel.

When you look at the ES production of Lowry and Namestnikov I wonder how they match up vs other competitors in the West. Seems like without the top PP time they line up above the median. 128/156 in league scoring is not likely the lower percentile. Objectively there are some weaknesses to Namestnikov's game, but the results aren't poor. Hard to say if Lowry will keep up the career pace but right now the Jets have the best checking line in the league.

There's a lot of different views on what the weakest spot is on the Jets. 2C, 1 RD, 3LD, 4th line scoring/ improved PK. The one thing I know is the Jets don't have a lot of trade capital, but they have enough to make a significant move.
I think there's some pressure on Chevy because this might as good of a chance as he has with the veterans in this group.

There's so many variables though. Health, first, at the deadline. Are guys that underperformed in previous playoffs going to suddenly perform?...I remember reading about the Caps changing their images as chokers, as an example.

Can Scott Arniel take this team farther than Bowness could? He's got more out of a lot of the same players this season. But he's never won a playoff series as a HC. Has to start somewhere. What does he think the missing elements are on this team?

I think looking for the magical centre to fit Ehlers/Perfetti could be the wrong path.

I wonder about putting out a 4 line team that was the key to the 2018 success.

If you acquired a player like Granlund could you run something like

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Barron-Granlund-Ehlers
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Perfetti-Namestnikov-Iafallo

which line would be the weak link?

 

[Adam da bomb]

This is an interesting discussion and I am still on the fence here. There are 4 Cs in the West right now that have more points than Mark Scheifele. MacKinnon, Draisaitl, Mc David and Eichel.

When you look at the ES production of Lowry and Namestnikov I wonder how they match up vs other competitors in the West. Seems like without the top PP time they line up above the median. 128/156 in league scoring is not likely the lower percentile. Objectively there are some weaknesses to Namestnikov's game, but the results aren't poor. Hard to say if Lowry will keep up the career pace but right now the Jets have the best checking line in the league.

There's a lot of different views on what the weakest spot is on the Jets. 2C, 1 RD, 3LD, 4th line scoring/ improved PK. The one thing I know is the Jets don't have a lot of trade capital, but they have enough to make a significant move.
I think there's some pressure on Chevy because this might as good of a chance as he has with the veterans in this group.

There's so many variables though. Health, first, at the deadline. Are guys that underperformed in previous playoffs going to suddenly perform?...I remember reading about the Caps changing their images as chokers, as an example.

Can Scott Arniel take this team farther than Bowness could? He's got more out of a lot of the same players this season. But he's never won a playoff series as a HC. Has to start somewhere. What does he think the missing elements are on this team?

I think looking for the magical centre to fit Ehlers/Perfetti could be the wrong path.

I wonder about putting out a 4 line team that was the key to the 2018 success.

If you acquired a player like Granlund could you run something like

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Barron-Granlund-Ehlers
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Perfetti-Namestnikov-Iafallo

which line would be the weak link?

I’m in the camp you should improve on Demelo if you want to make a big splash. I’m also in the camp of run mo, berg, fleury.
Keep Heinola there in pb in case you need more offense, but, I don’t see offense as a problem and would rather d who can clear front of net trust Helly to be the difference maker.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I imagine if you want to keep salary at 53 mil for top 7 you offer Ehlers 7.5 and you offer kc 9.5 and hope that the opportunity to play with schief and Helly is enough to get him to agree to less.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

This is an interesting discussion and I am still on the fence here. There are 4 Cs in the West right now that have more points than Mark Scheifele. MacKinnon, Draisaitl, Mc David and Eichel.

When you look at the ES production of Lowry and Namestnikov I wonder how they match up vs other competitors in the West. Seems like without the top PP time they line up above the median. 128/156 in league scoring is not likely the lower percentile. Objectively there are some weaknesses to Namestnikov's game, but the results aren't poor. Hard to say if Lowry will keep up the career pace but right now the Jets have the best checking line in the league.

There's a lot of different views on what the weakest spot is on the Jets. 2C, 1 RD, 3LD, 4th line scoring/ improved PK. The one thing I know is the Jets don't have a lot of trade capital, but they have enough to make a significant move.
I think there's some pressure on Chevy because this might as good of a chance as he has with the veterans in this group.

There's so many variables though. Health, first, at the deadline. Are guys that underperformed in previous playoffs going to suddenly perform?...I remember reading about the Caps changing their images as chokers, as an example.

Can Scott Arniel take this team farther than Bowness could? He's got more out of a lot of the same players this season. But he's never won a playoff series as a HC. Has to start somewhere. What does he think the missing elements are on this team?

I think looking for the magical centre to fit Ehlers/Perfetti could be the wrong path.

I wonder about putting out a 4 line team that was the key to the 2018 success.

If you acquired a player like Granlund could you run something like

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Barron-Granlund-Ehlers
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Perfetti-Namestnikov-Iafallo

which line would be the weak link?

Interesting thought.
But I think you end up taking TOI from better players to give it to weaker players.

Put Barron and Perfetti back in their usual spots and you still have 4 lines that you can trust. Our 4th line is already very good. Putting Names between Barron and Iafallo only makes them better. Perfetti - Granlund - Ehlers should also be an upgrade to that line.

 

[voyageur]

Interesting thought.
But I think you end up taking TOI from better players to give it to weaker players.

Put Barron and Perfetti back in their usual spots and you still have 4 lines that you can trust. Our 4th line is already very good. Putting Names between Barron and Iafallo only makes them better. Perfetti - Granlund - Ehlers should also be an upgrade to that line.

My thought is lines 2-4 all get equal ice time. It's not quite 2018, but having 4 lines that can score makes a huge difference in matchups.

It was hard to match up that 2018 team. But defense was a clear driver too.

I think you have to look at whether there is a digger on each line, net drive. I'm not sure Ehlers-Perfetti will score goals in a tighter checking playoffs together. It's possible but having one guy on each line who can attack the net and be defensively responsible changes the look of the team. Instead of loading the responsibility on 2 guys who haven't scored a lot in playoff hockey, and having a tight checking 4th line. But it's a lot more possible to have different looks with more moving parts. It's debatable whether Kupari/Gustafsson have that ability although those are 2 guys who might get ice time for d-zone faceoffs.

 

[Adam da bomb]

My thought is lines 2-4 all get equal ice time. It's not quite 2018, but having 4 lines that can score makes a huge difference in matchups.

It was hard to match up that 2018 team. But defense was a clear driver too.

I think you have to look at whether there is a digger on each line, net drive. I'm not sure Ehlers-Perfetti will score goals in a tighter checking playoffs together. It's possible but having one guy on each line who can attack the net and be defensively responsible changes the look of the team. Instead of loading the responsibility on 2 guys who haven't scored a lot in playoff hockey, and having a tight checking 4th line. But it's a lot more possible to have different looks with more moving parts. It's debatable whether Kupari/Gustafsson have that ability although those are 2 guys who might get ice time for d-zone faceoffs.

I think it would be interesting if they broke up the top line. They can always put it back together when they need goals, but, just like Edmonton has more options by being able to move Drai up and down line up to spread the offense I’d love to see if Connor can make 2nd line more effective when they need to pull out that option.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

My thought is lines 2-4 all get equal ice time. It's not quite 2018, but having 4 lines that can score makes a huge difference in matchups.

It was hard to match up that 2018 team. But defense was a clear driver too.

I think you have to look at whether there is a digger on each line, net drive. I'm not sure Ehlers-Perfetti will score goals in a tighter checking playoffs together. It's possible but having one guy on each line who can attack the net and be defensively responsible changes the look of the team. Instead of loading the responsibility on 2 guys who haven't scored a lot in playoff hockey, and having a tight checking 4th line. But it's a lot more possible to have different looks with more moving parts. It's debatable whether Kupari/Gustafsson have that ability although those are 2 guys who might get ice time for d-zone faceoffs.

Yeah, I could see the thinking in the proposal. It could work. I might try it in game 3 of the PO if we have lost the first 2.

I think that Barron - Namestnikov - Iafallo is a very good 4th line. They will push play into the O zone and even score a little.

 

[Wpgpage]

Nelson might be it for 1 year. But there goes another 1st rd pick for a rental.

Nelson is the only UFA I would be fine with them moving a first for. Ideally a 2026 first so at least you have one pick in the top 65 picks this year and next.

 

[Whileee]

Nelson is the only UFA I would be fine with them moving a first for. Ideally a 2026 first so at least you have one pick in the top 65 picks this year and next.

I think there would be a number of contenders interested in Nelson, including the Wild and probably the Stars. He'd be a good get for the Jets, but the price is likely to be high.

 

[10Ducky10]

Nelson for a first and another deal centering around Ehlers and Schneider from the Rags?

 

[Jets 31]

This team is pretty good, i would be a little weary of changing too much actually. I would trade Ehlers if he absolutely doesn't want to re-sign and that's about it. Maybe a depth player or 2 .

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think there would be a number of contenders interested in Nelson, including the Wild and probably the Stars. He'd be a good get for the Jets, but the price is likely to be high.

Yup. Probably too high.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Nelson for a first and another deal centering around Ehlers and Schneider from the Rags?

There will be a bidding war for Nelson so the price gets pushed up. And he has a 16 team no trade list so he can pretty much choose where to go.

NYR are very high on Schneider. Even with a sign and trade, it would take a fairly substantial add to Ehlers to get him.

 

[voyageur]

There will be a bidding war for Nelson so the price gets pushed up. And he has a 16 team no trade list so he can pretty much choose where to go.

NYR are very high on Schneider. Even with a sign and trade, it would take a fairly substantial add to Ehlers to get him.

I think the NTC is the real sticker. The rumours so far have Minnesota and Dallas in there. Minnesota being his home state probably has some allure. Wild also have some Cap space opening up so there is some long term options there. You hear some persistent rumours about Rossi being on the trade board, and that's an exchange I could see the Wild making because it's a veteran core there.

Honestly going into the playoffs Dallas and Colorado might still be the favorites given they've gone further than the Jets and Wild in recent years. I do see a bidding war there.

Granlund is probably 2nd tier, and might fit the Stars better than the Jets, given the roster makeup.

Gourde is probably 3rd tier and not sure he would be of any interest to the Jets to start with, undersized.

Cozens is likely the first domino to fall if Pegula wants to cut payroll. That could be the biggest bidding war.

Ryan O'Reilly has been mentioned and I wonder if the term scares teams off where you get a guy with not a lot of mileage left. Definitely not one of the better skaters, but does fit the Monahan mold, if someone wants to go down that road.

I have an inclination Brayden Schenn could get traded but with full NMC, and a Wheat King history I'd say if he goes anywhere Vegas is the destination.

Jason Dickinson at a lower tier might be an interesting add for someone if he is available.

Things will heat up in January as the race to the top gets more competitive and the race for the lottery/tank gets more interesting too.

 

[bustamente]

I'm pretty sure none of the trade targets people have mused about here lately will be coming here, it's nice to talk about them but for various reason they are not being traded for.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I think the NTC is the real sticker. The rumours so far have Minnesota and Dallas in there. Minnesota being his home state probably has some allure. Wild also have some Cap space opening up so there is some long term options there. You hear some persistent rumours about Rossi being on the trade board, and that's an exchange I could see the Wild making because it's a veteran core there.

Honestly going into the playoffs Dallas and Colorado might still be the favorites given they've gone further than the Jets and Wild in recent years. I do see a bidding war there.

Granlund is probably 2nd tier, and might fit the Stars better than the Jets, given the roster makeup.

Gourde is probably 3rd tier and not sure he would be of any interest to the Jets to start with, undersized.

Cozens is likely the first domino to fall if Pegula wants to cut payroll. That could be the biggest bidding war.

Ryan O'Reilly has been mentioned and I wonder if the term scares teams off where you get a guy with not a lot of mileage left. Definitely not one of the better skaters, but does fit the Monahan mold, if someone wants to go down that road.

I have an inclination Brayden Schenn could get traded but with full NMC, and a Wheat King history I'd say if he goes anywhere Vegas is the destination.

Jason Dickinson at a lower tier might be an interesting add for someone if he is available.

Things will heat up in January as the race to the top gets more competitive and the race for the lottery/tank gets more interesting too.

Chevy always does better when he is sneaky good not when he goes for the big fish. My example is Nino, Dillion, Demelo vs Monohan and others who have cost us a 1st.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think the NTC is the real sticker. The rumours so far have Minnesota and Dallas in there. Minnesota being his home state probably has some allure. Wild also have some Cap space opening up so there is some long term options there. You hear some persistent rumours about Rossi being on the trade board, and that's an exchange I could see the Wild making because it's a veteran core there.

Honestly going into the playoffs Dallas and Colorado might still be the favorites given they've gone further than the Jets and Wild in recent years. I do see a bidding war there.

Granlund is probably 2nd tier, and might fit the Stars better than the Jets, given the roster makeup.

Gourde is probably 3rd tier and not sure he would be of any interest to the Jets to start with, undersized.

Cozens is likely the first domino to fall if Pegula wants to cut payroll. That could be the biggest bidding war.

Ryan O'Reilly has been mentioned and I wonder if the term scares teams off where you get a guy with not a lot of mileage left. Definitely not one of the better skaters, but does fit the Monahan mold, if someone wants to go down that road.

I have an inclination Brayden Schenn could get traded but with full NMC, and a Wheat King history I'd say if he goes anywhere Vegas is the destination.

Jason Dickinson at a lower tier might be an interesting add for someone if he is available.

Things will heat up in January as the race to the top gets more competitive and the race for the lottery/tank gets more interesting too.

I hope Minny trades Rossi for Nelson. They lose that one big time. Then I hope they sign him for too much, too long.

Granlund would be my next want.

I don't know about Cozens. His production falling year over year is more than a one off. With his contract, I don't know if there is any bidding war there.

I don't have any real interest in the rest.

I still prefer getting a solution to 1RD, with term. Use whatever trade chips we have there.